Do you think it would be better if the storylines were more clearly separated? instead of having 5 minutes of bran at the beginning, 5 in the middle and 5 at the end, just have 15 minutes of bran in one go and be done with it for the week. I think it could help honestly, I hate when they jump to another storyline just for a couple of minutes, like they did with jon, sam or theon this week (even if showing theon was kind of mandatory after the confusion left last season), maybe a different structure could prevent that to some extent
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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Funky Papa
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I think the show is doing a sterling job at juggling so many storylines without making a mess. It's kind of amazing how everything fits at the end of each season.
Thanks guys. I'm still plenty confused but i think i might have to pm the next questions. I'm afraid to read the wiki for fear of spoiling a later part of season since i only want to know about the wall attack.
They didn't attack the wall. The Night's Watch group was far north of the wall, at the Fist of the First Men. That's where the attack took place. At the end of season 2 we see the walkers approaching the Fist, season 2 ends. Season 3 begins in black with sound effects of a battle happening off screen, and screams. The battle is mostly over now. It fades up on Sam walking through the snow and finding a fellow Night's Watch with his head cut off, then a walker attacks Sam, who is then burned by the Commander, accompanied by the beaten remains of the Night's Watch who are retreating from the Fist which is presumably controlled by the White Walkers. Sam didn't send the ravens out warning of the white walkers, so the survivors have no choice but to turn around and head back south to the Wall so they can warn the others and regroup.
Wowzers. Thanks for that explanation griffy. Got it. There's so much happening its so hard to keep track of the places they are and where the characters are going but this was a great walkthrough. Thanks bud.
Lactose_Intolerant
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White walkers are the frozen native american looking guys. That was a wight, a zombie, that the white walkers make.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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What vision do you think Jojen implanted in the direwolf to get it to calm down?
Yeah yeah whatever
. I called him a walker out of Walking Dead habit, but I knew not to call him a white walker.Are you guys watching the same show I am? From 2 minutes worth of Theon getting tortured and a split second shot of him on an X, you guys deduced it was Roose Bolton's bastard who kidnapped Theon, that they set fire to Winterfell and killed everyone and that the Bolton's are now in Tywin's pocket and that Robb should watch out? I call bullshit on every single one of you book readers trying to play it off like you don't know anything.
I'm going to Google this and I'll bet all of it turns out to be true. Anyways, looks like I'm done with this thread. It's obvious book readers want to ruin it for the rest of us who watch the show.
There is speculation, and then there is the truth that would require great leaps of faith to reach such a conclusion unless you read the books first.
Maddocks
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I think it just took some thinking.
winterfell was sieged, horn blower to piss them all off, then he was hit and left while his men walked out. You cant just leaved a sieged city unless someone let's you leave.
we know the bastard was outside from the horn and ravens. Final episode of season 2 showed the boys leaving the crypts and it burned and smoking. So you can deduce that greyjoy was hit in the back of the head, left, captured by the bastard and then the bastard sent a raven saying he was late. The characters don't know he's lying, but the audience knows.
thats how I viewed it all.
winterfell was sieged, horn blower to piss them all off, then he was hit and left while his men walked out. You cant just leaved a sieged city unless someone let's you leave.
we know the bastard was outside from the horn and ravens. Final episode of season 2 showed the boys leaving the crypts and it burned and smoking. So you can deduce that greyjoy was hit in the back of the head, left, captured by the bastard and then the bastard sent a raven saying he was late. The characters don't know he's lying, but the audience knows.
thats how I viewed it all.
Go back a page and read. Some guy said from this he deduced that the Bolton's were now in Tywin's pocket and that Robb should watch out... How can you even deduce that?
All we saw was Theon ready to fight and get knocked out. Next we see Bran and Rickon escape but everyone is dead and the castle is on fire.
We hear from Robb that Bolton's bastard was too late, the castle was torched and that the boys weren't found. Theon wakes up in a room and is getting water thrown on him and is getting tortured.
A split second shot of him on an X contraption, that many people use to torture, and a split second shot of some flayed banner that looks like an X, is sufficient for you guys and the guy from a few pages back to say Roose and his bastard are in Tywin's pocket and that Robb should watch out etc. Give me a break.
Anyways, I'm sorry if it's gotten out of hand, I just wanted to come here and chat with fellow fans who haven't read the books, but stealth posts by guys who have clearly read the books have ruined this. I'm done posting I guess. It's bad enough I had to deal with this crap in the Walking dead threads, and now here as well.
All we saw was Theon ready to fight and get knocked out. Next we see Bran and Rickon escape but everyone is dead and the castle is on fire.
We hear from Robb that Bolton's bastard was too late, the castle was torched and that the boys weren't found. Theon wakes up in a room and is getting water thrown on him and is getting tortured.
A split second shot of him on an X contraption, that many people use to torture, and a split second shot of some flayed banner that looks like an X, is sufficient for you guys and the guy from a few pages back to say Roose and his bastard are in Tywin's pocket and that Robb should watch out etc. Give me a break.
Anyways, I'm sorry if it's gotten out of hand, I just wanted to come here and chat with fellow fans who haven't read the books, but stealth posts by guys who have clearly read the books have ruined this. I'm done posting I guess. It's bad enough I had to deal with this crap in the Walking dead threads, and now here as well.
Maddocks
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That part is where you can go....ok you read the book. Because I didn't get that feeling at all. I only watch the show, no book reading at all. So to say they are in his pocket with the info given from the show is kinda impossible.
It's already in there.
Even then, most non-readers should just wait until the end of the season because the show may answer any questions they have within the show itself.
RangersFan
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you guys need a moderator to monitor this thread and start throwing down the ban hammer. too many book readers can't seem to help themselves and continue to post in this thread.
I was like, who the heck is bolton? I don't think i've heard that name until now lol Or maybe i missed it? so many names to keep track off.
Maddocks
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he was in season 2 for 5 episodes. But yeah, with so many cast members its very easy to skip over a character.
I threw you a post in the other thread since you were concerned people were trying to spoil book material, but I wanted to repost here and I want to note(to anyone else reading) I am only talking about what has occurred on the show:
harriet the spy
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It took me until book three to understand there was a difference. Mostly because I remember the book prologue depicting the white walkers as very fast, and the book as wights being very slumbering.
Jibbajabbawockky
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Same, my point is, I love speculation and guessing what will happen, but not when you repeatedly make a great leaps of logic and then play it off like we're too stupid to pick up on it.
I'd have never guessed it, but some guys like 4 pages back then stealth edited his posts and removed all history of what he said. I was like who the fuck is roose bolton's bastard? I was genuinely curious. And then the guy stealth edited without writing a reason why and I guess he realized I was suspicious.
Now some guy, says the same thing, but takes it ten steps further, and says things you could not possibly have a clue about if you watched the show. I had to spoiler tag and post it in another thread and wanted someone to PM or confirm it to me.
It's like what's the enjoyment in screwing over fans who only watch the show? There are other threads that allow book spoilers, why ruin it here. That's why I'm going to take a break from this thread and hope next week's episode wasn't ruined for me.
People like to lord their knowledge over others. Even when well intentioned, it is a shitty thing to do.
NathanMcMahon
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Too true. Good job book readers. Too bad there's a lack of moderation.
Thanks plywood for responding back. Yeah I have to admit that went over my head. It was just too convenient for me, if you go back 3-4 pages, you'll see I quoted a guy asking for followup but he stealth edited his posts and didn't even give a reason why which is why I got suspicious.
I'm still going to take a break from the thread though. I waited too long for this show to come back to want it to be spoiled even a little bit for me.
I'm still going to take a break from the thread though. I waited too long for this show to come back to want it to be spoiled even a little bit for me.
People make speculation with huge leaps of logic all the time. If you think someone is intentionally using spoilers it's best to contact a mod directly and not disturb the actual thread.
And book readers definitely shouldn't publicly accuse somebody of spoilers since that basically is itself a spoiler. You can pass something off as speculation but if somebody who knows cries spoiler, that just means that the person was right.
I haven't read the books at all. I'm waiting till I watch the entirety of the show first, I just find it so exciting and amazing, that I don't want to constantly compare and criticize parts that are different like I did when watching other shows or movies.
I've had stuff spoiled for me in game of thrones and walking dead before which is why I get upset if I perceive it again. I love speculation, nothing gets me more excited than speculating with other fans about what could happen. I hate it though, when people stealth edit posts to remove info and play it off like I never asked, because it seems to employ a great leap of logic. I do agree that we should PM mods if we feel someone is spoiling and not disrupt the thread. Because I was recently a junior, I'm not as familiar, who is the resident mod to PM? I don't want anyone to get in trouble though, just to stop spoiling or something.
Ingueferroque
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Oh my god, this season is incredible so far!
I can't believe how well produced it is, it makes Walking Dead look like it is shot with a shoe string budget.
I can't believe how well produced it is, it makes Walking Dead look like it is shot with a shoe string budget.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Since we have other threads for the show specifically for people who have read the series, I'd like to ask that they refrain from posting in this thread. I don't believe anybody has been deliberately posting spoilers under the guise of working things out, but it can be easy to forget where you learned a specific bit of information, especially if you read it a long time ago or started reading just after you got into the series. Then again, maybe some people are doing it deliberately. Please be considerate.
NathanMcMahon
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I don't know the Walking Dead's budget but I can guarantee it isn't remotely near GoT.
I enjoy the Walking Dead but it doesn't hold a candle to GoT. This show is on a whole different level of awesome.
Roose Bolton's bastard was mentioned in the show. Roose was the guy who said he could send his bastard to Winterfell to take it back from Theon in Season 2. So, mentioning Roose's bastard shouldn't make a post suspicious. If they know much more than that, then it's a bit suspicious, since that's about all we know from the show.
I don't know, the CGI and makeup on Walking Dead probably eats up a lot of their budget. I think actors are paid the same. Then again, I don't know, is it cheaper to film in the US or abroad?
But look at the production vales of GoT. Amazing vistas from Iceland, Croatia, Northern Ireland, Morocco as opposed to a small set in Georgia or rural farmland. Game of Thrones has such superb writing and acting, I can't believe it's still only a television show. Really setting the bar high for any future shows.
EDIT: I know, but I asked who he was because I don't think we saw him yet right? And when me and a few others asked who he was, he edited his post and removed mention of him. And then did the same for the next post. Some guy a few pages back took it way further than I thought possible. But I don't want to derail the thread anymore. I hope people just stop and not ruin it for us.
NathanMcMahon
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The only show that probably comes close to GoT's budget is Boardwalk Empire. Not sure how they compare but those two shows are the most expensive on TV right now.
Apparently season 2 episodes cost almost $6 million an episode. I'd imagine the cost is probably close to $8 million plus now, no? I can't wait to see more of Daenarys and how Astapor is shown.
I feel bad for the Jon Snow team who are forced to work on those mountains and glaciers.
NathanMcMahon
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Yeah, it's tough, but the on location stuff beats any soundstage any day of the week
Yup. I haven't seen anything that could handle such geographic disparity without location shooting. GOT really feels like it's taking place all over the world. Because it is.
HBO series have ridiculous budgets.
I believe Band of Brothers cost 100 million to make, for 10 episodes! The Pacific was even more expensive
I loved the episode.
Arya better than ever, and Sansa wasnt as. bad as usual.
I still like Margaery
The whole Worg (?) think seems cool. Not too over the top, and I was more shocked by the Giants than this.
I mean, the purple-lipped dude had more tricks up his sleeve than taking over animals.
Only one small thing: the sword fight looked kind of dull. Only low strikes and the swords clashing was a but too much.
But that doesnt change the fact that the season is off to a great start. Although I agree on the episodes feeling too short, but thats just because of the amount of awesome characters.
Ill update the cool-wall as well
Why didnt the Kingslayer jump in the river? Brienne with all her armour would have never been able to stay afloat
I believe Band of Brothers cost 100 million to make, for 10 episodes! The Pacific was even more expensive
I loved the episode.
Arya better than ever, and Sansa wasnt as. bad as usual.
I still like Margaery
The whole Worg (?) think seems cool. Not too over the top, and I was more shocked by the Giants than this.
I mean, the purple-lipped dude had more tricks up his sleeve than taking over animals.
Only one small thing: the sword fight looked kind of dull. Only low strikes and the swords clashing was a but too much.
But that doesnt change the fact that the season is off to a great start. Although I agree on the episodes feeling too short, but thats just because of the amount of awesome characters.
Ill update the cool-wall as well
Why didnt the Kingslayer jump in the river? Brienne with all her armour would have never been able to stay afloat
NathanMcMahon
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I really dug Sansa's venting. It was cathartic for to get a chance to rage about her family being destroyed and she played it off well. It's also nice to see her get the chance to do it without any repercussions. The whole time I was waiting for a hammer to drop and it didn't happen. It was an all-around good pay-off.
His hands were chained together. He'd have probably drowned.
NathanMcMahon
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my guess as well, though I'm confused as to why he wants to escape seeing as she is bringing him back to essentially be freed.
He's shackled at the wrists. I don't think he'd be able to swim very far.
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