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[Brannon]

I'm pretty sure they're not going to go all Harrison Bergeron on us with the games. That would just be uncouth in my fact.

 

[SwiftDeath]

This is the kinda shit Major Nelson and Albert Penello are implying when they try to spin the power difference between the consoles.

Ugh my OP is getting away from me

Everyone who reads this PLEASE REREAD the OP

I have tried to clarify it further

 

[Chobel]

Isn't the whole point of a rumour to wait upon clarification of some sort so that you can actually make some sort of informed decision?

We won't have clarification if we don't rage. I know it's stupid, but that's how real world works, we need to make this bigger than it should be.

 

[Skeff]

I have absolutely no idea. Depends on the problem I guess? Maybe some kind of memory leak can easier be fixed than something more general.

The counter point is of course, the Sony driver will not remain constant, it wil also be improving.

 

[Wynnebeck]

There is a reason why Killzone Shadowfall, Drive Club and inFamous Second Son look to be the best looking next gen games.

Agreed. Looks like it's going to be up to Sony's first party team to really make the PS4 shine this generation.

 

[NobleGundam]

"Rumors"

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

I am super p!$$£d off. I was a ps3 gamer and we suffered a lot. Cause sony made mistakes. The xbox version of every game ran better. PS gamer paid a huge price for sticking to it. And now our time for reward they wanna punish us? i seriously wanna cry here.

THIS IS UNFAIR. WE ARE PAYING MONEY FOR THIS GAMES. I WISH WE CAN VOTE WITH OUR WALLET AND STICK TO INDIE AND F2P GAMES AND SONY 1ST PARTY

AND THEY SAY COMPETITION IS GOOD? COMPETITION MY A$$

But you can vote with your wallet. Just don't buy the game in question if its pisses you off so much.

 

[ThatChairMan]

It's a shame that they still have driver issues this close to launch, but because it is only an issue with the driver, that does mean it could be corrected later on, right? I'm also taking the article to mean that some issue with the driver is effectively preventing 1080p/60fps, so if that issue is fixed, could it mean that more games could reach that?

At least, that's what I would hope.

 

[WordsintheWater]

If this is true then it's pretty disappointing developers would gimp a version to match the other. I don't think that has happened this gen, why would it start next gen?

 

[gamechanger87]

please help to me for understanding. they people says blame Microsoft fer everything even specusations and Rage because he said PS4 downlevel games because Microsoft? is this legit correction?

You got it. At least that's how I understand it.

Some more facts that I now know.

Random Speculations + Internet = RAGE
MS killed Dreamcast and 3DO am confirmed
There will be no games for X1 am confirmed
MS hates gamers am confirmed

 

[ekim]

The counter point is of course, the Sony driver will not remain constant, it wil also be improving.

For sure. Question is - is there a bug in the MS driver or is it just unoptimized and underperforming.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Agreed. Looks like it's going to be up to Sony's first party team to really make the PS4 shine this generation.

So nothing new. Sony's first party teams were the only ones to showcase what the PS3 was really capable of.

Again, I don't believe it's true. It didn't happen this gen, why would it suddenly be a big 'political' issue next gen?

 

[LordBaztion]

so, Driver are the problem, that is software isn't it? Then it could be fixed in the future. Am I right? or its hardware related?

 

[Spartacus073]

This kind of just sounds like a regurgitation of other reports.

I was thinking the same thing. The translated wording was almost exactly what we have seen in other articles.

 

[Guymelef]

How long will they take to fix the driver?

They said this at the same time that GPU overclock.

"Since E3, an example is that we've dropped in what we internally call our mono driver. It's our graphics driver that really is 100 percent optimised for the Xbox One hardware."

 

[Chobel]

I have absolutely no idea. Depends on the problem I guess? Maybe some kind of memory leak can easier be fixed than something more general.

Because if multipat looks identical while Xbox one is still having driver problems, then that means only one thing: PS4 version were gimped.

 

[IRQ]

If MS rushed the Xbox just to be out with the PS4 then they deserve to be left out by lots of gamers. I mean seriously, Is there any brain out there who can see that this isn't a finished product??
10 years of waiting and this is what we get. Gonna buy it thou but it really hurts me as a gamer. I mean maybe in 2-3 years from now the tablet will exceed both ps4 and x1. Crap

 

[FlyFaster]

this is fucking stupid if all these rumors are true -- Why would PS4 versions of games be drug down to xbone levels?

I spent this entire gen reading, hearing, and playing games on PS3 while the 360 versions were "better" even if only slightly.


If this turns out to be true and PS4 versions get gimmped for whatever reason I see this as the beginning of the end for console games.

 

[intheinbetween]

Do you know if this is not true?

do you? because it seems like you're taking that rumour as a fact

 

[IvorB]

Ugh my OP is getting away from me

Everyone who reads this PLEASE REREAD the OP

I have tried to clarify it further

You've lost control of the thread, man. What have you done?

 

[FlyStarJay]

Meh they won't change. Its a business decision. Make multiplatform games comparable so that you don't waste money trying really hard to optimize for one console. An drastically different game on one console versus another won't move more units for you so why bother. Make them comparable and move on.

BUT NO need to downgrade ps4. They can go spend money or improving xbox 1. But do no harm the innocent (ps4)

 

[SwiftDeath]

Far too late now. It's become fact.

Yes I know

I single-handily caused forced parity next-gen from a badly written OP

I'm sorry guys

 

[ekim]

Because if multipat looks identical while Xbox one is still having driver problems, then that means only one thing: PS4 version were gimped.

Only if they don't get rid of the problem until launch.

 

[RedRooster]

Hahaha, thread of the year. I love the uproar in here, so much anger!

But seriously, people expected multiplats to be crushingly good on one platform over the other? Really? What would be the dev's incentive to NOT do that?

 

[AzerPhire]

We won't have clarification if we don't rage. I know it's stupid, but that's how real world works, we need to make this bigger than it should be.

Please stop. You seem extremely immature and just need to step back from your computer.

 

[Proelite]

Because if multipat looks identical while Xbox one is still having driver problems, then that means only one thing: PS4 version were gimped.

Or that Xbox One is more powerful than PS4.

Dun dun DUN.

 

[Anticitizen One]

Games to be made for the lowest common denominator. Current-gen all over again.

That's been the case every console gen

 

[Reg]

if this is true then i will burn all of my microsoft mice!

 

[TrojanBlade]

WTF if true. I have been worried about this since the original article suggesting shit like this is possible. So now PS4 version will be gimped just to please MS. Thats just BS!

 

[gamechanger87]

BUT NO need to downgrade ps4. They can go spend money or improving xbox 1. But do no harm the innocent (ps4)

They will make the game to the LCD and work from there. Its easier to work up than down.

 

[gioGAF]

This should come as no surprise to anyone. MS has been forcing parity since they gained enough market share with the 360 to do so. It has been made clear many times to developers/publishers that they can only sell a game on xbox if it is equal to or better than what is offered on rival consoles (content or performance wise). This mandate does thankfully exclude the PC version.

There is no money hat for this either. The loss of profits from selling their product on the xbox/xbone is more than enough motivation to do just what MS requests. As long as MS holds a prominent position in gaming, this will be true. Hopefully PS4 will outpace xbone considerably so this won't be a problem. Sony doesn't do this specific kind of garbage.

 

[Chobel]

do you? because it seems like you're taking that rumour as a fact

I don't take it as a fact, but i'm not downplaying it either.

 

[Harlock]

If they are downgrading the PS4 version, are making a case for people go PC and not consoles.

I hope this type of information leaks to force the publisher to not downgrade one console because problems with the other.

 

[New002]

Lots of people ITT missing the words "might" and mistaking speculation for confirmation.

Why so level-headed, bro?

 

[FinalStageBoss]

Lol man if these rumors end up being true I'm done with console gaming.

 

[Jezbollah]

Hahaha, thread of the year. I love the uproar in here, so much anger!

But seriously, people expected multiplats to be crushingly good on one platform over the other? Really? What would be the dev's incentive to NOT do that?

"Crushingly" - no. But we have seen technical differences between multi-platform games. Is 1080p/60 vs 900p/60 as different as the Madden that was released that was 60fps on 360 and 30fps on PS3?

I think it's up to the publishers to make the games as good for each platform as they can - and if MS' versions dont provide the experience compared to other platforms, the emphasis should be put on MS to improve their driver support, or whatever else may be wrong with their SDK.

 

[Canis lupus]

My main next gen console is gonna be PS4, if publishers choose to downgrade the PS4 versions because of Xbox driver issue I will simply not give my money to them but instead buy them secondhand.

 

[Pug]

Another classic GAF thread coming up no doubts, based on rumours, speculation and complete and utter bollocks.

 

[NTIETS13A_Superiority]

I do not think ps4 versions will be downgraded perse. just that the version that is done on PC and then ported to consoles will be cartering to XBO specs. And there will be no need to upgrade ps4 version from there. Ofcourse if they have version running on ps4 allrady that they downgrade due to this. Fuck them.

 

[Chobel]

Please stop. You seem extremely immature and just need to step back from your computer.

What do you suggest? just dismiss this?

 

[Nealand Liquor]

I am super p!$$£d off. I was a ps3 gamer and we suffered a lot. Cause sony made mistakes. The xbox version of every game ran better. PS gamer paid a huge price for sticking to it. And now our time for reward they wanna punish us? i seriously wanna cry here.

THIS IS UNFAIR. WE ARE PAYING MONEY FOR THIS GAMES. I WISH WE CAN VOTE WITH OUR WALLET AND STICK TO INDIE AND F2P GAMES AND SONY 1ST PARTY

AND THEY SAY COMPETITION IS GOOD? COMPETITION MY A$$

Lol, step away from the ledge. Everything will be ok, your toy is not broken!

Key word in the OP is 'Might'. Might = could be. In other words, unconfirmed. Besides the only way MS will have the power to pull this off is if the One sells like gangbusters, and something tells me it won't. Well at least compared to the ps4 world wide, and yes, in NA too.

 

[oldnick]

If true we have a legit reason to say 'PC master race' for next gen

 

[TheVisualizer]

Pardon my ignorance but wouldn't the politics that would force parity (PS4 downgrades) be from publisher mandates and not decisions made by developers?

Just seems like a lot of anger in this thread is misguided towards devs about the possibility of this.

 

[Callibretto]

Hahaha, thread of the year. I love the uproar in here, so much anger!
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But seriously, people expected multiplats to be crushingly good on one platform over the other? Really? What would be the dev's incentive to NOT do that?[/QUOTE]
Tell that to bayonetta ps3. As far as I know, one of the more obvious differences in multiplatform game this gen

 

[Wynnebeck]

So nothing new. Sony's first party teams were the only ones to showcase what the PS3 was really capable of.

Again, I don't believe it's true. It didn't happen this gen, why would it suddenly be a big 'political' issue next gen?

MS stands to lose more than Sony by not having games look on par with PS4. Having multiplats as well as exclusives look objectively better on one platform over the other looks horrible. I'm not saying the rumor is true as it is just speculation at this point, however, we've already her from developers outside of this story who were saying the same thing about studios making sure that both versions look on par to avoid any politics.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

That's been the case every console gen

No, they always make it for the leading platform, and then port. In recent memory that just 'happened' to be the LCD. We have no idea whether the games will follow that trend this generation. However for launch games, it might be the case.

 

[Interrobang]

So another generation of Sony's machine suffering due to limitations out of its control?

That's what I gathered from OP so correct me if wrong.

Please let me be wrong.

 

[Nafai1123]

They will make the game to the LCD and work from there. Its easier to work up than down.

That's not what this implies though. This rumor implies they would intentionally downgrade the PS4 version of games in development to match the XB1. Eg. Maybe Watch_Dogs is currently running in 1080p @ 30fps on PS4, but they lower the resolution for parity.

 

[srd4484]

wow you guys believe anything and run with it. We've seen NO evidence of this.

 

[IN&OUT]

That's been the case every console gen

what consoles generation do you mean? because I don't remember any?