GamerGate: a discussion without internet-murdering each other about it

Bryank75 said:
https://www.polygon.com/2016/4/29/11539102/gaming-stats-2016-esa-essential-facts

Here in the Polygon demographics we can see that even when including mobile gaming and the gaming provided on platforms such as Facebook, males still make up almost 60%.

Then look at this;

https://www.researchgate.net/public...Display_Units_Using_Targeted_Reward_Mechanics

FarmVille and yoville were among the most popular games with females vs what Ron Swanson and I refer to as proper gaming.... Call of Duty, MonHun, Civ, GOW etc.
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I believe those. I am not buying the assertion that gaming is a predominantly white hobby though.
 
MogCakes said:
I believe those. I am not buying the assertion that gaming is a predominantly white hobby though.
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Well if you look at console sales, Europe and US are the biggest buyers by far.... I would have assumed that would lead to a certain demographic pattern. My wife is Brazilian and I play a lot with her cousins online but there are issues like high taxes and fees in South America.
Asia is a mixed bag with Japan favouring handheld and Korea and China favouring PC games like LOL and MMO's that are made for the region.
MEA seems to be growing and hopefully a more stable future in the region helps that....
maybe my perception is wrong, I could have an out of date view of things.
 
MogCakes said:
I believe those. I am not buying the assertion that gaming is a predominantly white hobby though.
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If it isn't then it's most likely Asians that edge out the count due to MMOs. I know that China is apparently bigger than the US but I'm not sure it's bigger than the US & Europe combined. But as Bryank says, if you look at the biggest markets and the populations that dominate them, it pretty much tells you that gaming is a very white/asian thing. Unless you have access to figures that show that there is a massive African/south asian gaming market that no one else is aware of or that the 2% of black people in Europe & the 14% in the US actually buy more games than the rest of the population.
 
Geki-D said:
If it isn't then it's most likely Asians that edge out the count due to MMOs. I know that China is apparently bigger than the US but I'm not sure it's bigger than the US & Europe combined. But as Bryank says, if you look at the biggest markets and the populations that dominate them, it pretty much tells you that gaming is a very white/asian thing. Unless you have access to figures that show that there is a massive African/south asian gaming market that no one else is aware of or that the 2% of black people in Europe & the 14% in the US actually buy more games than the rest of the population.
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Global sales are really hard to gauge. In poorer countries, bootlegs are everywhere. Look at all those knock consoles that end up just being NES on-a-chip clones made to look like the latest thing. Someone has to be buying them if they keep making them.

The only people who should be concerned with the demographic information is the major publishers. A small indie dev studio that just wants to make a game they find fun will rarely care about trying to make something globally appealing versus why they enjoy.

And gaming right now is mainstream. Sure not everyone plays them all the time, but damn near everyone plays them at least some of the time. Especially with the rise of smartphones, it's so easy to just play something quick while you are waiting.

And no one really cares about your race, sex, or creed. As long as you aren't holding it out in front of people waiting to get offended.

And finally, a big fuck you to focus groups. Devs just make good games and people will buy them. People didn't not buy Tomb Raider games because you play as a woman, nor did they not buy GTA San Andreas because you played a black man in the hood. Give gamers new experiences that challenge what we've experienced in life. Going from Assassin's Creed 4, to it's DLC Freedom's Cry was jarring. You go from being a white man to a black man who suddenly everyone treats with suspicion. Or Assassin's Creed Liberation where you play half black / half French woman in colonial New Orleans and get to see the world from both the view of slaves as well as nobility.
 
SScorpio said:
Global sales are really hard to gauge. In poorer countries, bootlegs are everywhere. Look at all those knock consoles that end up just being NES on-a-chip clones made to look like the latest thing. Someone has to be buying them if they keep making them.

The only people who should be concerned with the demographic information is the major publishers. A small indie dev studio that just wants to make a game they find fun will rarely care about trying to make something globally appealing versus why they enjoy.

And gaming right now is mainstream. Sure not everyone plays them all the time, but damn near everyone plays them at least some of the time. Especially with the rise of smartphones, it's so easy to just play something quick while you are waiting.

And no one really cares about your race, sex, or creed. As long as you aren't holding it out in front of people waiting to get offended.

And finally, a big fuck you to focus groups. Devs just make good games and people will buy them. People didn't not buy Tomb Raider games because you play as a woman, nor did they not buy GTA San Andreas because you played a black man in the hood. Give gamers new experiences that challenge what we've experienced in life. Going from Assassin's Creed 4, to it's DLC Freedom's Cry was jarring. You go from being a white man to a black man who suddenly everyone treats with suspicion. Or Assassin's Creed Liberation where you play half black / half French woman in colonial New Orleans and get to see the world from both the view of slaves as well as nobility.
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Well said. Also you really need a Hank Scorpio avatar :)
 
I was a lurker here for 12 years (no account, never had a paid email) and watching what this place slowly turned into for the past 7 years was painful. I have a feeling some of the more rational posters that left here will eventually come back when they stop believing everything they see or hear as absolute truth.

I even believed in the whole GG is evil no matter what for a few hot moments in 2015/16 before seeing communities and certain individuals implode on themselves because of slander and lies while using GG as convenient scapegoat. Even before and after that phase, I am and always will be against censorship and forced diverisity.
 
SScorpio said:
Global sales are really hard to gauge. In poorer countries, bootlegs are everywhere. Look at all those knock consoles that end up just being NES on-a-chip clones made to look like the latest thing. Someone has to be buying them if they keep making them.
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I really don't disagree with your post in all, I don't disagree with your overall conclusion and the feeling you're getting a cross. But the part I quoted just doesn't make sense. Global sales aren't hard to gauge because they're tracked by the companies selling hardware/software and they show that outside of western countries and China, sales either are non existent because they don't sell there or smaller than the other countries. Also bootlegs don't really matter because whilst they exist, you're not outselling or anywhere near equalising the amount of legit games sold. They're also pretty much reserved to older games due to more advanced dmr and better platforms. As for the knockoff consoles, they're mostly from China where the Chinese video games market is bigger than the US one.

I mean, like I said I really don't disagree with your sentiment, but this pushback against the obvious fact that better video game sales in regions dominated by a single group of people mean that that group of people are therefore the ones playing the most is just bizarre to me. I don't get it, say it's irrelevant, sure, but to just deny it's a thing... I don't get it, it's like black magic to me, it makes no sense.
 
I don't consider myself a part of gamer gate. I made zero posts or tweets about it. Too busy with work and family.

But I tried depression quest and thought it sucked. And i don't think there's a code of ethics in games journalism. It's lazy and highly political.
 
Kotzen Ducha said:
I don't consider myself a part of gamer gate. I made zero posts or tweets about it. Too busy with work and family.

But I tried depression quest and thought it sucked. And i don't think there's a code of ethics in games journalism. It's lazy and highly political.
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Same, in fact I don't know anyone who called themselves a gamergater. Most of us (gamers) were just enjoying life and games and the whole thing came out of left field.
 
Geki-D said:
I really don't disagree with your post in all, I don't disagree with your overall conclusion and the feeling you're getting a cross. But the part I quoted just doesn't make sense. Global sales aren't hard to gauge because they're tracked by the companies selling hardware/software and they show that outside of western countries and China, sales either are non existent because they don't sell there or smaller than the other countries. Also bootlegs don't really matter because whilst they exist, you're not outselling or anywhere near equalising the amount of legit games sold. They're also pretty much reserved to older games due to more advanced dmr and better platforms. As for the knockoff consoles, they're mostly from China where the Chinese video games market is bigger than the US one.

I mean, like I said I really don't disagree with your sentiment, but this pushback against the obvious fact that better video game sales in regions dominated by a single group of people mean that that group of people are therefore the ones playing the most is just bizarre to me. I don't get it, say it's irrelevant, sure, but to just deny it's a thing... I don't get it, it's like black magic to me, it makes no sense.
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I argue against those numbers because they don't tell the full story. The majority population in an area should be the main consumers of your product. If they aren't something is wrong. If you made a game where US black people ages 14-35 were the main purchasers. You'd be wondering what is wrong. Why are the groups with 4-5 times as many people not buying your product? Conversely, a game with normal sales where white people were the main purchasers in the US doesn't mean black, latino, or asian people don't buy your game. Put you could look at percentages for each group. Then if you saw outlyers you could ask yourself why, and why aren't those people purchasing the game?

But the global yearly total sales on what people have spent on gaming isn't fully known. And bootlegs/knockoffs aren't just because of costs. As Gabe Newell has said "We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem".

Look at Brazil for instance. The Sega Master System and Mega Drive are still sold there and people purchase the hardware and games. Why? Because due to import fees a modern console costs over a thousand US dollars there. Yet a company that partners with a local company to produce in Brazil can bypass those fees and sell for much less.

Now, look at emulation. People were doing it for years. But as soon as Nintendo brought out the NES/SNES Classis for $60/80. They flew off the shelves. It was a product people could buy, plug it into their TVs and just play. Something like that could be released in an official capacity to other regions where games just aren't being sold.

And in 2011 Gabe also said, "Prior to entering the Russian market, we were told that Russia was a waste of time because everyone would pirate our products. Russia is now about to become [Steam's] largest market in Europe". So while some other market might not be your largest, you could still be leaving a lot of money on the table by not trying to sell to people.

The reason the NES clones are popular is in the late 80s, a clone of the NES/Famicom was developed in Russia. It is extremely cheap to produce. So why don't any of the major companies create something like it but for newer gens? Release SNES, Playstation, and Playstation 2 official clones with bundles games. The software is a sunk cost, make the hardware and rack in some cash.
 
Bryank75 said:
Same, in fact I don't know anyone who called themselves a gamergater. Most of us (gamers) were just enjoying life and games and the whole thing came out of left field.
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I must admit I was kind of taken back by the way things blew up and the apparent far-reaching discontent with games media across the board amongst core gamers, especially after the slew of 'gamers are dead' articles. As I said earlier in the thread, I knew that there was general discontent after Doritosgate and the kickback against the ME3 ending and the 'entitled gamer' narrative amongst dedicated forumites, but I didn't necessarily expect that to translate to a wider audience. I do have to wonder what those writers were thinking tbh.
 
MayauMiao said:
Mundane Matt recent video on Resetera banning KCD due to Vavra supporting Gamergate.

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I knew they were nut jobs there but damn.... Glad they're no longer here.
Need to watch more of this guy too, subscribed to him. He also sort of looks like me, I'm always happy to see another one of my clones doing good.
 
I don't think you can say games as a whole are a predominantly white male hobby. There's all sorts of people all over the world playing all kinds of video games.

However, I think it safe to say most enthusiast gamers who buy the newest hardware on release, who pre-order the most anticipated titles, and who log on to forums like this one to talk about the newest games are probably mostly white and mostly male. The same is true for the developers of these AAA games too. The mere fact diversity programs exist now for game studios proves that.

So in my eyes, it is only natural these big budget crème de la crème games often cater towards this demographic. That's probably where the money is, after all. That doesn't mean I oppose making games more appealing to minorities (in various ways, not just from the viewpoint of North-Americans) but it's also fine if the case ends up being it really is mostly white straight men buying these games. It's when you begin pushing for equity in terms of representation in video games that we start running into some issues.
 
Bryank75 said:
Same, in fact I don't know anyone who called themselves a gamergater. Most of us (gamers) were just enjoying life and games and the whole thing came out of left field.
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Your experience is my experience. The gaming industry seemed to change overnight with two militant groups forming in the process. It was bizarre and I wanted no part of it.

I'm still here going "what's Gamergate again?" years later because the label seems to mean a number of things depending on who you ask. Whereas if someone says SJW I feel like everyone instantly knows what that means. It's amusing.

I'm a fairly simple person who doesn't live on the Internet every waking moment, so that probably has something to do with how I see things. Full-time job, wife, kids and precious little free time. Would much rather spend my free time enjoying my hobby than bickering back and forth over political ideologies within the gaming sphere.
 
OH-MyCar said:
I'm more or less of this school of thought. I lurked KiA since the beginning and never got the vibe that GG was any kind of "hate mob". In fact, the swiftness in that labeling and the startling uniformity of thought coming from our news outlets helped reaffirm some of the things GG was onto. Moreover, "social justice" is just an intersection of a lot of this because now it's that perfect mix of clickbait and Facebook-tier activism for a lot of these writers. Wanting to "drive women and minorities" out of the industry is their perfect weapon. In short, it's driven me away from 90% of news outlets.

With that said, I also feel like GG developed its own stupid echo chamber over time and began to attract a crowd that wasn't necessarily "hateful" but petty, bitter and not very reflective. I still feel like the Allison Rapp thing was ridiculous and had very little to do with Fire Emblem's awful localization, but was the mob rolling with it without a lot of the discussion you'd see early on in the so-called "movement". By that era they were almost the dumb boogeymen that the media and other groups went out of their way to paint them as.
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When were you on KIA? The few times I lurked there years ago almost every other thread was strictly about some "SJW" boogeyman grievance or whining about Anita Sarkeesian.

KIA actually ended up being on of the primary reasons I disliked Gamergate. For all their talk of "ethics in games journalism" very little of the discussion there actually seemed to be about ethics or games journalism. It may have been different early on, but towards the end of GG's relevance it started to look like a proto-Trump echochamber.
 
Xdrive05 said:
Just jumping in this thread to give a less invested perspective; one that comes from someone who heavily read Gaf and listened to gaming podcasts like the Bombcast during the whole GG thing, but who didn't dive deep on this topic at all at the time to inform myself thoroughly.

I definitely have the impression that the games media quickly framed this as only a harassment campaign, end of story. And so that's what I thought about it, too. But in hindsight there seems to be a lot more going on, and I frankly wonder why there was so much of a coordinated effort to frame it as such. That framing just doesn't pass the smell test to me, and only exacerbates the claims GGers are making anyway.

As an aside, I also find it interesting that GG is often talked about as the bellwether movement for the pushback against the "SJW" culture warring, which ultimately gets conflated (rightly or wrongly) with the alt right or Donald Trump on the one (right) end of that side of the culture war, or on the other (left) end of the same side being the jaded, disaffected liberals who feel that their "team" had been turned into the new moralistic church ladies they remembered battling against in the 90's; Jack Thompson, etc., and they don't want any part of this new moral panic about video game culture.

That's the general sense I get from watching all of this, and where it has gone in recent years. Just my read of the culture discussing this as a topic.
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That is likely the result of:
1. GG generally embracing figures that ended up being prominent members of the alt-right, and
2. Spending so much time and energy whining about feminists and SJW's.

Being generally annoyed with "SJW's" is one thing, but groups that elevate them to being some sort of existential threat to their way of life or society as a whole are generally going to have similar political tenancies.
 
Lionel Richie said:
This is factually incorrect, the term comes from Trent Schroyer's The Critique of Domination and it's a criticism of Frankfurt School and its attempt to control individuals through social and cultural pressure.
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Dunki said:
I just googled the defintion which did not sound stupid. But ok is this better?


http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cultural-marxism

And I can clearly see the similarities between the regresive left or how we would call it and this thesis. They also believe that since they started this stupid culture war in the first place. They blame culture of toxic masculinit paatriachy etc for everything wrong with this world so I can see where they coming from.
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Xdrive05 said:
Trump
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The actual specific definition of cultural marxism may have been incorrect, but today in 2018 sincerely complaining about "cultural marxism" is a pretty reliable red flag that the person is also probably virulently hostile to either religious/racial minorities or the LGBTQ community. I can think of... literally 0 instances where I've seen this complaint being made by someone on twitter or some other gaming forum and the person WASN'T also just a giant POS to begin with.
 
REMINDER: This is not the type of style endorsed by moderation. These types of claims should be supported by proof or examples. Let's take the occasion to warn everyone of this.
I had no clue what GG was but damn it sounded toxic asf. Sounds like a whole bunch of privileged assholes decided to take their racism and misogyny public because like most racist pricks they believe the world and everything in it belongs to them and should kowtow to their retarded ass demands. Typical colonizer bullshit. I'm glad I didn't experience the stupidity. (I really hope profanity isn't frowned upon because it is so awesome and I use it profusely)
 
ImThatDood said:
I had no clue what GG was but damn it sounded toxic asf. Sounds like a whole bunch of privileged assholes decided to take their racism and misogyny public because like most racist pricks they believe the world and everything in it belongs to them and should kowtow to their retarded ass demands. Typical colonizer bullshit. I'm glad I didn't experience the stupidity. (I really hope profanity isn't frowned upon because it is so awesome and I use it profusely)
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The key is "sounded like" based on what? Gaf's neverending circle jerk? The gaming press cabal's lockstep whitewashing campaign?
 
prag16 said:
The key is "sounded like" based on what? Gaf's neverending circle jerk? The gaming press cabal's lockstep whitewashing campaign?
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Sounded like from reading the thread. I thought that would be a given based on the fact that I mentioned I hadn't heard of GG until now.... but you know reality isn't reality for everyone
 
ImThatDood said:
I had no clue what GG was but damn it sounded toxic asf. Sounds like a whole bunch of privileged assholes decided to take their racism and misogyny public because like most racist pricks they believe the world and everything in it belongs to them and should kowtow to their retarded ass demands. Typical colonizer bullshit. I'm glad I didn't experience the stupidity. (I really hope profanity isn't frowned upon because it is so awesome and I use it profusely)
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So you still have no idea what GG is, but choose to call me an asshole, racist and misogynist?

There's a whole thread for you to read. On the off-chance you're interested in educating yourself.
 
Is GamerGate even a thing anymore other than on KotakuInAction which makes me puke everytime I go there?

Cause the only time I have heard GamerGate being mentioned in a long time is this thread.
 
ImThatDood said:
I had no clue what GG was but damn it sounded toxic asf. Sounds like a whole bunch of privileged assholes decided to take their racism and misogyny public because like most racist pricks they believe the world and everything in it belongs to them and should kowtow to their retarded ass demands. Typical colonizer bullshit. I'm glad I didn't experience the stupidity. (I really hope profanity isn't frowned upon because it is so awesome and I use it profusely)
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I would love to see evidence of this racism and misogyny that is apparently rampant in this thread.
 
InterMusketeer said:
...the viewpoint of North-Americans...It's when you begin pushing for equity in terms of representation in video games that we start running into some issues.
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Has there been a study of all 2017 games released (including indies) to see how many non-white lead characters there are? I would suggest it is probably close to correct in terms of Europe's 10% non-white. I'm genuinely interested in this if anyone does know of a non-biased survey.

I find it interesting that 'equality' in the mind of lots of people means 50% of games have a non-white lead where in my mind fair equality would reflect real world ethnic population distribution meaning around 1/10 Western titles should have a non-white lead.

If there are one or two games with a transgender character a year, we are probably on the right lines. There is no representation problem there as it is 1% of the population. Once again people think equality means as many transgender as non-transgender but genuine fair representation is equal to real life, not wildly out of sync. Plus on that note, transgender representation is the most idiotic thing ever - if we see transgender women AS women, who is to say dozens of female characters in games are not transgender already? They don't have to draw attention to it and likely want to put their past behind them!

A lot of issues seem to be that a vast majority of Americans, perhaps due to psychotic wars and murder being so normalised, or perhaps due to 'exceptionalism' seem to strongly lack empathy and combine that with extreme self-centredness.

I honestly don't give a damn who I am playing as and put myself into the character's shoes and 'be' that character. I believe 99% of Western-European people feel the same.

This whole representation issue is driven by, ironically, white-men who probably do not even know any black people. Every single one of my black friends in England are strongly against every television advert showing mixed race couples or black children with white parents. People need to talk to NORMAL people who they believe they represent, with an open mind, and re-assess their views. White people on the extreme left ASSUMING what minorities think and feel is just the modern 'white-man's burden' and it sickens me quite frankly.
 
Tupinambis_WOT said:
The actual specific definition of cultural marxism may have been incorrect, but today in 2018 sincerely complaining about "cultural marxism" is a pretty reliable red flag that the person is also probably virulently hostile to either religious/racial minorities or the LGBTQ community. I can think of... literally 0 instances where I've seen this complaint being made by someone on twitter or some other gaming forum and the person WASN'T also just a giant POS to begin with.
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"The actual history and meaning of the term isn't as factual as my personal and heavily biased experience with it" - yeah, sure thing buddy.
 
ImThatDood said:
I had no clue what GG was but damn it sounded toxic asf. Sounds like a whole bunch of privileged assholes decided to take their racism and misogyny public because like most racist pricks they believe the world and everything in it belongs to them and should kowtow to their retarded ass demands. Typical colonizer bullshit. I'm glad I didn't experience the stupidity. (I really hope profanity isn't frowned upon because it is so awesome and I use it profusely)
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Lol'd
 
Lionel Richie said:
"The actual history and meaning of the term isn't as factual as my personal and heavily biased experience with it" - yeah, sure thing buddy.
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In this instance where practically *nobody* is using the term correctly according to its actual history and meaning, then yes, personal experience is more factual given that the "actual history and meaning" has literally no relevance to how people use it today.
 
Tupinambis_WOT said:
In this instance where practically *nobody* is using the term correctly according to its actual history and meaning, then yes, personal experience is more factual given that the "actual history and meaning" has literally no relevance to how people use it today.
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While that isn't completely wrong, it's statistically unlikely that *nobody* is using the term correctly or even vaguely as it was intended. And besides, the hysteria surrounding the term as shitholes like Vice try to push is somehow even worse than any wrong usage. Someone could use cultural marxism wrongly out of misinformation, but that's obviously not allowed since if you use it, you're a nazi. And why you're a nazi? Because we're telling you that. That's a very bad way to start any conversation.

That's pretty much like gamergate itself. You can't debate it without treating it like the devil humping your dog or you're condoning it, normalizing it, platforming it, whateverthefucking it. You create conversational black holes and sacred cows and that's why some people have difficulty dealing with life outside of hugboxes, since that shit only flies with a strict moderation that does not allow you to push it any further. If only there was a term that could define how collectivity imposes itself on individual self-expression...
 
MayauMiao said:
Mundane Matt recent video on Resetera banning KCD due to Vavra supporting Gamergate.

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I have to say, I'm not a big fan of fighting emotion with emotion. And a surefire way to discredit your argument is by ridiculing your opponents. There's enough ridiculousness on that other website, sure, but pointing fingers and calling names is a pretty immature way to prove a point and I guarantee it won't win a lot of converts.
 
down 2 orth said:
I have to say, I'm not a big fan of fighting emotion with emotion. And a surefire way to discredit your argument is by ridiculing your opponents. There's enough ridiculousness on that other website, sure, but pointing fingers and calling names is a pretty immature way to prove a point and I guarantee it won't win a lot of converts.
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So calling everyone a Nazi is not the right way to go about it then? Agreed.
 
MayauMiao said:
Mundane Matt recent video on Resetera banning KCD due to Vavra supporting Gamergate.

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Can I just say that the youtube video you posted is very not safe for work?

LOL!

Those ads scrolling on the right for those statues are hilarious! But you're likely going to have to go visit HR if someone else in the office sees that!

I'm still making my way through the video, but wanted to pause it and say that :P
 
RiccochetJ said:
Can I just say that the youtube video you posted is very not safe for work?

LOL!

Those ads scrolling on the right for those statues are hilarious! But you're likely going to have to go visit HR if someone else in the office sees that!

I'm still making my way through the video, but wanted to pause it and say that :p
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At least we know Matt has a thing for Japanese figurines.
 
Oh the hypocrisy:

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strange headache said:
Oh the hypocrisy:

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From Women as Background Decoration: Part 1 - Tropes vs Women in Video Games (at about 30mins):
"In other words, viewing media that frames women as objects or sexual playthings profoundly impacts how real life women are perceived and treated in the world around us."
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How anyone could claim that violence in video games doesn't affect people in the real world but that sexist/racist stuff does is pretty insane. This goes for all of the journos that gave what she said creedence, but I guess now that Trump is saying it, it's suddenly ludicrous so they're going to flip flop.
 
Geki-D said:
How anyone could claim that violence in video games doesn't affect people in the real world but that sexist/racist stuff does is pretty insane.
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This question was asked on pre-showergate GAF, the answer was, that research shows its different. I haven't seen actual research linked and can't event recall thread's title (was one of the femfreq threads)
 
llien said:
This question was asked on pre-showergate GAF, the answer was, that research shows its different. I haven't seen actual research linked and can't event recall thread's title (was one of the femfreq threads)
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Was the person who asked the question then banned by any chance?
 
SScorpio said:
I argue against those numbers because they don't tell the full story. The majority population in an area should be the main consumers of your product. If they aren't something is wrong. If you made a game where US black people ages 14-35 were the main purchasers. You'd be wondering what is wrong. Why are the groups with 4-5 times as many people not buying your product? Conversely, a game with normal sales where white people were the main purchasers in the US doesn't mean black, latino, or asian people don't buy your game. Put you could look at percentages for each group. Then if you saw outlyers you could ask yourself why, and why aren't those people purchasing the game?
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I think you need to rethink this entire point. It's absurd. Plenty of niche products aim at specific demographics that are not the 'majority population'. Heck, plenty of non-niche products do not necessarily sell best to the majority population. Hair products. Food. Entertainment. Some electronics. Clothes. Toys. Almost everything, really.

Beyond that, I'm actually unsure of your larger point so I can't comment on what you're actually trying to get across. There is absolutely no business directive to try to sell to the 'majority population', and in fact, fortunes can be made selling to niche demographics. And if you have a product that does primarily sell to one demographic, it's generally in your best interest to maintain appeal within that [small or large] demographic.
 
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