Hawking Radiation
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Boycotts would work if people didnt cave in all the time and end up buying thee broken garbage anyway.
The few of us willing to see it through are too few to make a difference.
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Boycotts would work if people didnt cave in all the time and end up buying thee broken garbage anyway.
The few of us willing to see it through are too few to make a difference.
That is happening in game indurstry too but not coz of some fake outrage aka for example hogwarts legacy, gamers dont "boycott" stuff, they simply dont buy bad products they dont enjoy, no hidden meaning in it- gaming is entertainment- gamers aka customers wanna play a game-they buy it, if no then no and that kinda is.Disney has lost nearly $100million dollars in market value over the last few years, Bud Light is down over $20billion since the Dylan controversy, and Target is down over $10billion since they started targeting Satanic lqbtqia clothes for kids. The consumer dollar trumps all.
Not enough like-minded people. But I'm right there with you. Gaming has been in the toilet for a very, very long time. With that said, I am happy that some gamers have found happiness in the current era. I just can't get with it personally.Are you tired of Games that release broken or unfinished?
Are you sick of playing the same games yearly with cut and paste Jobs?
Are you sick of buying a game at launch for full price and not getting the full product 6 months to over a year later from launch?
Boycotts work! Look is what is happening in other sectors of Entertainment. People are sick of the ultra left wing companies shoving their woke agendas into Everything. There has been a backlash that has forced these companies to Listen. Bud Light, Disney, Target are Multi Billion dollar companies who are now losing Billions trying to shove their woke agendas down people's throat. Yes this same logic applies to vidoegames.
You cry every year about Madden sucking but buy it every year? EA does not give a fuck. Keep bitching but if you are buying they have won. You really want to make a difference and force EA to change? Stop buying their garbage product! When the effect of boycotts hit their stocks that is when they really listen.
I am constantly hearing gamers bitch about this company sucks, or this broken thing or that. Yet, at the end of the day people are still buying these companies shitty products and the companies win. If you really want to send a message we should be boycotting these shitty products. Do not support this behavior and make them listen. The only way to make multi billion dollar companies listen to us as the consumer is hit them right in the Wallet.
I Agree with you bruh, especially about Saints Row, watchin that thing flop was the most pleasant thing to happen in recent memory, well other than the failed Hogwarts Legacy boycotYou'd think so, but it keeps happening, so no. Also, I'm owed working products from companies that don't alienate their customers by insulting them or telling them that their worldview is wrong. If that's too much to ask for, it's the company that is entitled, not me.
When it comes to gaming, the best recent example of all of this would be Saints Row. They released a broken game and insulted their fans who questioned the direction of the series. That developer is dead to me. Short of an apology, I'll never buy their games again.
People being themselves is one thing, people demanding that the rest of us give up what we care about and wrap the whole world around them at our expense, thats another thing entirely.I just cant believe how fucked up people are. Boycotting for selling pride clothes in a tiny section of a huge store or giving someone a personalized six pack is fucking pathetic. There is nothing noble about it. It is just cry baby bigots banding together because seeing a trans person triggers them. This has nothing to do with games.
I went to the park in Baltimore today and saw a gay couple cuddling and a trans dude taking his/her/their kids to the park. The only people with agendas were these weird Muslims at a conference trying to recruit people and they were perfectly fine with me saying I am not interested. Really it is just people being people, and getting bothered by that is not honorable, it is sick.
....but. Bud Light still sells beer to you don't they? Target still lets you purchase from their store, don't they? They're not giving discounts to gay people or trans people, it's about as superficial as they can get.if I've been a loyal customer, getting shoved aside for some other demographic because of THE MESSAGE
this is the section of the population OP expects to properly conduct a boycott....can't even prevent themselves from playing a fucking call of duty game, when Battlefield is right there. yeah not in a million fuckin years lmfao
The section of the population (western population as far as I can tell, I'm not American), isn't simply asking for something they appreciate, they threaten cancelations if you don't give them whatever it is they are asking for. They are holding companies at gunpoint especially with that ESG stuff. "Give us what we want whether or not it makes sense, or we will tear up your reputation, and riot if necessary."....but. Bud Light still sells beer to you don't they? Target still lets you purchase from their store, don't they? They're not giving discounts to gay people or trans people, it's about as superficial as they can get.
They're just appeasing to a little section of the population who really appreciates it. It's not like Bud Light has a history of making pro LGBT ads before this one, same thing for target.
the funny thing is that ESG was made by the companies... not by the people. Blackrock and the United Nations are the reason ESG exists and is so prevalent, not Twitter, lolThey are holding companies at gunpoint especially with that ESG stuff.
i understand your frusturation but you cannot convince people like that. It will never happen.Yeah but (insert defence thats part of the problem) and plus ( insert the usual part of the problem " it don't affect you" & "don't buy it then " comments)
Bafoons Only Fucking ApesWhat is Bofa?
i'm forced to boycott them because i don't own a PS4/5Sony generally releases very polished and bug free games, so I don't know why i'd boycott them?
You're absolutely right, Bob Chapek decided to apologize to his gay employees and join them in protesting the bill they were demanding Disney (he was CEO at the time) do something about, no pressurethe funny thing is that ESG was made by the companies... not by the people. Blackrock and the United Nations are the reason ESG exists and is so prevalent, not Twitter, lol
And moreover.... Twitter cancellations don't do shit to a company. You can't damage a company's reputation and kill off their revenue by trying to 'cancel' them on Twitter. Trust me, if they could people'd have done that already, because they've got enough skeletons in their closet worthy of cancellation. (none of them have to do with progressiveness, btw) Simple fact is that they're too big to crumble from a couple twitter tweets.
i understand your frusturation but you cannot convince people like that. It will never happen.
Boycotts work!
Why should I support companies who insult my worldview? To be clear, I have a fairly supportive worldview when it comes to trans people, but if I disagree with some aspect of what Target or Bud Light or Miller or Gillette has said or done, and the result of that disagreement essentially comes down to a company suggesting I'm a bad person for not agreeing with them, why would I ever give that company my business again? Why should any company lecture their customers? There's nothing superficial about insulting your customers.....but. Bud Light still sells beer to you don't they? Target still lets you purchase from their store, don't they? They're not giving discounts to gay people or trans people, it's about as superficial as they can get.
They're just appeasing to a little section of the population who really appreciates it. It's not like Bud Light has a history of making pro LGBT ads before this one, same thing for target.
Nah I've got a different attitude.i understand your frusturation but you cannot convince people like that. It will never happen.
Wrong. If you keep giving them your money it gives them 0 incentive to change. If they have to rethink releasing a broken product because they know it will not sell, that is the difference. Keep buying their bullshit is not solving anything.This reeks of entitlement. Those that participate in this negative activism and preach hate towards developers, expecting it to be received in good faith, are fucking delusional. A behaviour that begets further toxicity. You're not owed anything. Do you think that these companies are oblivious to the fact that releasing a game in a broken state hurts them not just financially but via reputation? It is better to be hopeful that companies learn and adapt to the climate we're in, rather than boycott them, as it does not benefit the consumer for them to have failed to begin with.
What he saidWhy should I support companies who insult my worldview? To be clear, I have a fairly supportive worldview when it comes to trans people, but if I disagree with some aspect of what Target or Bud Light or Miller or Gillette has said or done, and the result of that disagreement essentially comes down to a company suggesting I'm a bad person for not agreeing with them, why would I ever give that company my business again? Why should any company lecture their customers? There's nothing superficial about insulting your customers.
Same for game companies. If you insult my worldview, why should I give you my business when there are SO many other options?
Just look up Bud Light Boycott. They put a transexual as the face of the beer and pretty much to told their standard clients to fuck off. It hasn't gone well for them.What's that?
There are more factors behind this than just 'online people didn't like them'Disney has lost nearly $100million dollars in market value over the last few years, Bud Light is down over $20billion since the Dylan controversy, and Target is down over $10billion since they started targeting Satanic lqbtqia clothes for kids. The consumer dollar trumps all.
There are more factors behind this than just 'online people didn't like them
1. True but the online part spilled into reality.Not enough like-minded people. But I'm right there with you. Gaming has been in the toilet for a very, very long time. With that said, I am happy that some gamers have found happiness in the current era. I just can't get with it personally.
The only real goal is to get a better product at the end of the day.Boycotting suggests that a group of people come together to collectively refuse to do business with a company. That requires organization. OP screaming at the heavens is not accomplishing anything more than the reactions on the post and the subsequent posts like this one explaining the fallacy in his method.
Congratulations bro, we did it.
There are two versions of cause and effect here:True but the online part spilled into reality.
This is the right answer. I toss more money at the indie scene than the mainstream these days. Mainstream has become copy pasta in a lot of cases so I'm happy to reward the smaller companies doing different things.Instead of boycotting things, why not concentrating supporting the things you DO like?
Spot on the money! The only way I can have my voice heard is with my wallet. I refused to hear or watch all the virtue signaling these big companies are pushing. Hell if cancel culture can work for the Left, I believe proper boycotts can steer a company. The game industy is in a very sad state. Companies like Nintendo are few and very far between. People seem to have accepted their lackluster mediocre games. The only way to change things is with your wallet. Going with the status Quo or bitching online solves nothing. Money is the only langue big companies speak. Unfortunately gaming has shifted much more towards a business.Why should I support companies who insult my worldview? To be clear, I have a fairly supportive worldview when it comes to trans people, but if I disagree with some aspect of what Target or Bud Light or Miller or Gillette has said or done, and the result of that disagreement essentially comes down to a company suggesting I'm a bad person for not agreeing with them, why would I ever give that company my business again? Why should any company lecture their customers? There's nothing superficial about insulting your customers.
Same for game companies. If you insult my worldview, why should I give you my business when there are SO many other options?