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Gamers Nexus | NVIDIA: WTF?
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
At this rate my 5090 is going to be worth it's weight in gold
Bojji
Gold Member
What if it dies?
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Just ordered a prebuilt with a 5080, maybe it will hold me till all this blows over.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
RoboFu
One of the green rats
More of a breakdown how us as gamers, are fucked
Everyone is fucked.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Gamers might have moved on to cellphone gaming full time by then. The one electonics device that might still get made during all this.
Bojji
Gold Member
P:axMagellanic
Member
Just don't even entertain it with these cunts. Buy the competition. If they follow, fuck them all off.
This bullshit will burst, and they'll all come crawling back.
Sethbacca
Member
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winjer
Gold Member
The problem is that there are actually idiots that are willing to use streaming for games.
If it comes back, Nvidia could easily reinvest into their datacenters and only offer cloud gaming.
Mayar
Member
Next year promises to be "interesting," and I wouldn't bet on this bubble bursting this time. If Nvidia has partnered with defense and military companies, that's a damn bad sign. These aren't the kind of guys who enjoy risky investments, and they usually have budgets and programs planned out several years in advance.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Unfortunately, the AI bubble bursting means 3 companies will be buying the supplies that's currently going to a dozen companies.
So we're fucked either way.
P:axMagellanic
Member
Aren't half of these GPU's sitting in warehouses because there's not enough data centres to plop them into?
And militaries always cancels shit. I mean the US navy just mothballed the constitution class of frigates which were desperately needed.
Mayar
Member
I don't think it will work this time. It's a matter of national security and the race to be the first to embrace AI. We're simply looking at AI as an aid in creating assets for games. From a defense perspective, using AI in the long term is much more exciting. And unfortunately, it's not in our favor again.
Treasure Hunter
Member
Now my grandma can finally stop nagging me why didnt you buy bitcoin in 1989 like all normal people, now it's going to be all about video cards and ram sticks.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
we just cant slob nvidia's knob better than govts & multi-billion $$$ companies
at least we have amd
at least we have amd
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Hey good news is there is always this.
LavitzSlambert
Member
we just cant slob nvidia's knob better than govts & multi-billion $$$ companies
at least we have amd
In a way, they're worse than Nvidia. Riding coat tails for sure.
Hohenheim
Member
This too shall pass.
Like Ed Crysler said (that awesome Sapphire dude that recently was a guest on The Full Nerd and Hardware Unboxed podcasts :
"PC gamers have been through stuff like this before, and will find a way. Don't panic. "
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Buggy Loop
Gold Member
we just cant slob nvidia's knob better than govts & multi-billion $$$ companies
at least we have amd
AMD is busy picking up all the leftovers Nvidia couldn't manage to gobble up, like a dog underneath the table of a fat fuck having a messy buffet. They're all in on AI too.
That's the thing, the margins for AI are so insane that it makes nearly no economical sense for them right now to waste a silicon wafer for consumer centric product when that wafer can be worth tenfold and more for the AI craze.
I seriously don't see how this will calm down. Peoples say bubble this and bubble that but peoples don't understand that these companies are all outbidding themselves to reach AGI before another company and even another country. AGI is not even in the horizon for years to come most likely as LLMs won't cut it, but they won't simply twirl their thumbs in the meantime and not have the infrastructures as they take a long time to make anyway.
Stargate project, 5.5GW energy demand across sites.
Meta, 5GW and this chunk, just one of many
First country to reach AGI basically unlocks cheat code for the rest of the century.
Regardless what peoples think that's worth, they won't slow down.
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CuteFaceJay
Member
warehouse full on GPU's aint gonna give AGI. it would require them to be fucking sentient. this AI hype is simply being blown up to the scale that will allow the fed print liquidity into the system and then siphon it into the banks and market without the average joe question where all this money came that diluted all his savings purchasing power over the next decade.AMD is busy picking up all the leftovers Nvidia couldn't manage to gobble up, like a dog underneath the table of a fat fuck having a messy buffet. They're all in on AI too.
That's the thing, the margins for AI are so insane that it makes nearly no economical sense for them right now to waste a silicon wafer for consumer centric product when that wafer can be worth tenfold and more for the AI craze.
I seriously don't see how this will calm down. Peoples say bubble this and bubble that but peoples don't understand that these companies are all outbidding themselves to reach AGI before another company and even another country. AGI is not even in the horizon for years to come most likely as LLMs won't cut it, but they won't simply twirl their thumbs in the meantime and not have the infrastructures as they take a long time to make anyway.
Stargate project, 5.5GW energy demand across sites.
Meta, 5GW and this chunk, just one of many
First country to reach AGI basically unlocks cheat code for the rest of the century.
Regardless what peoples think that's worth, they won't slow down.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
They ain't slowing down the race to it as I said.
This is a bigger race than even the space race
Whomever unlocks AGI basically owns the world in the future. As dystopian as that can sound, that's where we're heading.
Anyone thinking that AI is gonna fizzle out is disconnected. As much as you can hate it, it ain't going away. They ain't lifting the foot off the pedal just because current LLMs won't achieve AGI. At the pace things have advanced in AI in the past years, how many more stepping stones are needed to achieve AGI? Nobody really knows but they certainly ain't waiting on it. It's not suddenly gonna be a model that is incompatible with 1) energy requirements 2) compute requirements.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
All of this will give us reason to play what we have ie equipment and backlogs.More of a breakdown how us as gamers, are fucked
StereoVsn
Gold Member
That won't work in the same manner even if AI bubble goes belly up, and that's a big if.
Most of the cards aren't even designed to output video and have HBM memory setup. These GPUs won't work in regular PCs.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
We should all go back to something like this and program new games for it
CobraAB
Member
Was already at Gold price when it launched.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
There is actually surprisingly active retro scene around Commodore. So there are indeed new games being released. I think for Amiga as well, and of course for various retro consoles and MiSTer.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Also, a likely timeline of the race, written by a broad range of AI experts in the field.
at worst 2027 is the speedrun of AGI, at best its delayed ? years from now. But the scenario and power play between USA and China is indeed blatant to see.
Video that took the paper's predictions to a more entertainment form
at worst 2027 is the speedrun of AGI, at best its delayed ? years from now. But the scenario and power play between USA and China is indeed blatant to see.
Video that took the paper's predictions to a more entertainment form
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YCoCg
Member
Ahh shareholders, the cause and solution to all capitalism problems.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Note the "activist" part. It's basically usually some billionaire or private equity firm they pull this shit.
Insane Metal
Member
Yup it's bad and it's only going to get worse unfortunately.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
They want to possess all the compute then rent it to you at exorbitant prices while training their models to replace you using your own work.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Things can always get worse.
Bojji
Gold Member
AMD is busy picking up all the leftovers Nvidia couldn't manage to gobble up, like a dog underneath the table of a fat fuck having a messy buffet. They're all in on AI too.
That's the thing, the margins for AI are so insane that it makes nearly no economical sense for them right now to waste a silicon wafer for consumer centric product when that wafer can be worth tenfold and more for the AI craze.
I seriously don't see how this will calm down. Peoples say bubble this and bubble that but peoples don't understand that these companies are all outbidding themselves to reach AGI before another company and even another country. AGI is not even in the horizon for years to come most likely as LLMs won't cut it, but they won't simply twirl their thumbs in the meantime and not have the infrastructures as they take a long time to make anyway.
Stargate project, 5.5GW energy demand across sites.
Meta, 5GW and this chunk, just one of many
First country to reach AGI basically unlocks cheat code for the rest of the century.
Regardless what peoples think that's worth, they won't slow down.
I doubt we will see real AGI, but all the damage from Ai - of course (environment, job market, consumer products market, price of electricity etc.).
And all of this is running on small shoulders of TSMC, ASML and Carl Zeiss
Sethbacca
Member
No I get that, but I mean when all these companies have to make the inevitable pivot back to trying to sell to us.
So basically we've hit the part of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy where we're creating computers that plan and create ever larger computers that we will eventually somehow use to solve the problems of life the universe and everything.
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