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[ecosse_011172]

So much of the recent discussion on the merits of a game or indeed console is ridiculously binary, it's either horrendous or incredible with nothing in between.

Every console is great in some way, less great in others.
Even all the controllers are excellent nowadays.

Most games (apart from shovelware) are not terrible and we should discuss with a bit more nuance.
As odious as the worship of Kojima is, the Death Stranding games are not without merit.
I'm currently playing Rise of the Ronin, a flawed game which had many mediocre reviews and so much bitching about it but I'm having a blast with it, it's loads of fun.
There are many better examples of games which would be better served by appreciating their strengths rather than dismissing the because of some little aspect.

In other words, embrace the non-binary, people.

 

[The_Mike]

This thread won't end well.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

In other words, embrace the non-binary, people.

 

[Lokaum D+]

 

[BennyBlanco]

Agreed on Rise of Ronin. It has way better combat than Ghost of Sushi.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Agreed on Rise of Ronin. It has way better combat than Ghost of Sushi.

Man, Ghost of sushi is a game I would play.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

While I agree that more nuance to people's evaluations would be nice, let's not pretend that there is any bright spot to the Xbox business at this point.

 

[diffusionx]

OP seems to be posting on here with a major chip on his shoulder trying to "own" all of us with le heckin' logic and reason.

I see him getting banned and then whining about how awful this community is on ResetEra.

 

[ecosse_011172]

While I agree that more nuance to people's evaluations would be nice, let's not pretend that there is any bright spot to the Xbox business at this point.

There has been in the past year with some solid games but looking forward, it's hard to be optimistic.
Maybe they will concentrate more resources on a few tentpole releases which will benefit fans of them (I'm not)?

 

[ecosse_011172]

OP seems to be posting on here with a major chip on his shoulder trying to "own" all of us with le heckin' logic.

I see him getting banned and then whining about how awful this community is on ResetEra.

No chip on my shoulder and like probably many of you, I was banned from there years ago
Don't know what "le heckin'" means.

 

[consoul]

This is the internet. Everything is awesome or shit. There is no middle ground.

 

[Kacho]

Welcome to the internet I guess, where extremes are commonplace and nuance is discarded.

 

[ecosse_011172]

This is the internet. Everything is awesome or shit. There is no middle ground.

It's a shame though, we can do better.

 

[Hollowpoint5557]

This thread is literally worse than Hitler. Literally.

 

[lughnasadh123]

People are just conditioned to use a lot of hyperbole to get a reaction. A nuanced take doesn't get the clicks. And wtf are we doing with our lives if we don't get the clicks?

 

[ecosse_011172]

This thread is literally worse than Hitler. Literally.

 

[Skifi28]

In other words, embrace the non-binary, people.

 

[FinalBossWithTheMostPower]

 

[Jaybe]

In other words, embrace the non-binary, people.

Nice try HR department

 

[Nankatsu]

 

[Spukc]

Flagged for rascistsmism

 

[Moses85]

 

[LordCBH]

Aren't worse than Hitler? Brother have you SEEN Tiger Wrist Games?

 

[ecosse_011172]

Aren't worse than Hitler? Brother have you SEEN Tiger Wrist Games?

No but I imagine from the title that would come under shovelware

 

[PauloRoberto]

My problem with any video game online discussion today is the fact that everyone wants to discuss with their livers, not even their hearts, let alone their brains...

 

[Exede]

As a german....

What the fuck is wrong with you?!

 

[Saber]

I'm simple man. I see someone writting stupid shit like Hittler and already push the ignore thread button.

 

[Deerock71]

 

[Connificent]

 

[The Cockatrice]

Most games (apart from shovelware) are not terrible

 

[mckmas8808]

Agreed on Rise of Ronin. It has way better combat than Ghost of Sushi.

But was it a better overall game? Most would disagree.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Examples?

 

[The Cockatrice]

Examples?

 

[ecosse_011172]

But was it a better overall game? Most would disagree.

I'm too early on in RoTR to know but I have the feeling that it'll have more variety but without being as slickly produced and stunning to look that, we'll see.

 

[MagusMajul]

Throwing that name around recklessly is irresponsible.

 

[ecosse_011172]

 

[Breakfast at Noon]

Did you do all the coke?

 

[The Cockatrice]

 

[ecosse_011172]

Did you do all the coke?

 

[Grildon Tundy]

This is the internet. Everything is awesome or shit. There is no middle ground.

It's the best way to get heard by cutting through the noise & nuance, unfortunately. Ain't nobody got time to read and debate everyone's reasoned takes.

And it's a game of trying to sway the consensus. Voting something a "1" or a "10" is going to swing the average in the direction you want more than a "3" or "7". To use numerical shorthand to represent sentiment.

 

[ecosse_011172]

As a german....

What the fuck is wrong with you?!

Apologies, no offence intended.

 

[Jigsaah]

Embrace the non-binary, people...

Is there a such thing as a reverse dog-whistle?

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Embrace the non-binary, people...

Is there a such thing as a reverse dog-whistle?

Whistle dog.

 

[Rush2112]

Xbox is worse than Ebola for sure. My Hitler meter is broken today so I can't comment about that.

 

[acm2000]

So much of the recent discussion on the merits of a game or indeed console is ridiculously binary, it's either horrendous or incredible with nothing in between.

Every console is great in some way, less great in others.
Even all the controllers are excellent nowadays.

Most games (apart from shovelware) are not terrible and we should discuss with a bit more nuance.
As odious as the worship of Kojima is, the Death Stranding games are not without merit.
I'm currently playing Rise of the Ronin, a flawed game which had many mediocre reviews and so much bitching about it but I'm having a blast with it, it's loads of fun.
There are many better examples of games which would be better served by appreciating their strengths rather than dismissing the because of some little aspect.

In other words, embrace the non-binary, people.

joycons are most definitely not excellent if you are having to try hold them horizontally

 

[ecosse_011172]

joycons are most definitely not excellent if you are having to try hold them horizontally

That's why god invented Pro Controllers.

 

[acm2000]

That's why god invented Pro Controllers.

no nintendo invented pro controllers to gouge more money out of people.

 

[ecosse_011172]

no nintendo invented pro controllers to gouge more money out of people.

Have you tried the Switch 2 one? it's pretty spectacular.

 

[nowhat]

Yeah, but what about goat Hitler?

 

[ecosse_011172]

Yeah, but what about goat Hitler?

Thread finally delivers.