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[DocSeuss]

Bloodborne is objectively the best game of the year. You might like another game more and that's fine, but no game achieved its ambitions with such a level of simultaneous reckless ambition and graceful poise.

^out of the games I played anyways, which includes all frequent noms aside from starcraft and undertale

That is not at all how reviewing or scoring games works.

Like, from where I stand, Bloodborne is kind of a shitty game. I'm not saying that to be contrarian or anything--I make my living explaining game mechanics, and I genuinely feel I could back up the claims I have to make. I think there's a lot of shit it's actually pretty bad at, from gameplay to graphics (You'd think FROM would have figured out how to make good skyboxes with proper atmospheric distortion by now), and it wouldn't be anywhere near my game of the year list!

But I'm, y'know, me! I have weird opinions. I think that the best game of the year was The Witcher 3, and I think I could make a ton of arguments for why that is.

There's no such thing as "objective best game of the year," and the insipid fanboyism of the Bloodborne crowd only makes me like the game a great deal less.

 

[Ratrat]

There is nothing weird about thinking Witcher 3 is goty. It is weird to jump down his throat before insisting the fanbase is making a shit game even worse. Speaking of insipid.

 

[Philippo]

Don - not involved in voting

Witcher 3
-Blood
-Brandon
-Matt

Bloodborne
-Ian
-Kyle
-Brad
-Ben

Unable to Choose
-Huber

lmao i can totally see Huber leaving the office screaming NO YOU WON'T FORCE ME TO DECIDE I LOVE THEM BOOOOOOOTH

 

[benny_a]

It is weird to jump down his throat before insisting the fanbase is making a shit game even worse. Speaking of insipid.

Yeah that's usually something you get laughed at for like 20 quotes on GAF. But DocSeuss gonna DocSeuss.

 

[Burt]

lmao i can totally see Huber leaving the office screaming NO YOU WON'T FORCE ME TO DECIDE I LOVE THEM BOOOOOOOTH

The man could've been kingmaker

But he buckled in the face of glory

Hogger would be disappointed

 

[GamingOblivion]

That is not at all how reviewing or scoring games works.

Like, from where I stand, Bloodborne is kind of a shitty game. I'm not saying that to be contrarian or anything--I make my living explaining game mechanics, and I genuinely feel I could back up the claims I have to make. I think there's a lot of shit it's actually pretty bad at, from gameplay to graphics (You'd think FROM would have figured out how to make good skyboxes with proper atmospheric distortion by now), and it wouldn't be anywhere near my game of the year list!

But I'm, y'know, me! I have weird opinions. I think that the best game of the year was The Witcher 3, and I think I could make a ton of arguments for why that is.

There's no such thing as "objective best game of the year," and the insipid fanboyism of the Bloodborne crowd only makes me like the game a great deal less.

Your comment on the skybox is ironic with everyone commending Bloodborne for its skybox in that skybox thread.

 

[sora87]

There's a reason GT is the only good gaming site around.

 

[silva1991]

Your comment on the skybox is ironic with everyone commending Bloodborne for its skybox in that skybox thread.

Yeah BB's fantasy skyboxes is breathtaking imo.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

There's a reason GT is the only good gaming site around.

because they chose Bloodborne??

 

[Ullus]

There's a reason GT is the only good gaming site around.

What about EG and Destructoid then? You seemed to like those.

 

[Caipirinha]

GT are my GJOTYs.

 

[Dark_castle]

I'm loving all the love Bloodborne gets.

 

[LiquidSolid]

Don - not involved in voting

Witcher 3
-Blood
-Brandon
-Matt

Bloodborne
-Ian
-Kyle
-Brad
-Ben

Unable to Choose
-Huber

This is why you guys needed to capture the discussion on audio. It would've been a really interesting debate/argument/fight to listen to.

 

[Peru]

Fell asleep just reading their list of nominees

 

[Denton]

Don - not involved in voting

Witcher 3
-Blood
-Brandon
-Matt

Bloodborne
-Ian
-Kyle
-Brad
-Ben

Unable to Choose
-Huber

haha that is so close. Too bad Huber could not decide, if he went for Witcher you could have had two goties tied )

 

[fastmower]

This is why you guys needed to capture the discussion on audio. It would've been a really interesting debate/argument/fight to listen to.

Absolutely

 

[UrbanRats]

Don - not involved in voting

Witcher 3
-Blood
-Brandon
-Matt

Bloodborne
-Ian
-Kyle
-Brad
-Ben

Unable to Choose
-Huber

Poor Huber, lol.

 

[Canis lupus]

That is not at all how reviewing or scoring games works.

Like, from where I stand, Bloodborne is kind of a shitty game. I'm not saying that to be contrarian or anything--I make my living explaining game mechanics, and I genuinely feel I could back up the claims I have to make. I think there's a lot of shit it's actually pretty bad at, from gameplay to graphics (You'd think FROM would have figured out how to make good skyboxes with proper atmospheric distortion by now), and it wouldn't be anywhere near my game of the year list!

But I'm, y'know, me! I have weird opinions. I think that the best game of the year was The Witcher 3, and I think I could make a ton of arguments for why that is.

There's no such thing as "objective best game of the year," and the insipid fanboyism of the Bloodborne crowd only makes me like the game a great deal less.

Are you joking? The things you claim it's bad at is actually what it's really good at. Bloodborne has really good gameplay and the skyboxes are AMAZING.

And yeah the poster can claim BB is objectively the best game of the year of the ones he played, there's no need for you to be upset about his choice.

 

[Mariolee]

If anyone has watched Gametrailers at all, you would know everyone on that staff has Bloodborne and Dark Souls at the top of their favorite games list. It's no surprise at all. Well deserved.

 

[UrbanRats]

Are you joking? The things you claim it's bad at is actually what it's really good at. Bloodborne has really good gameplay and the skyboxes are AMAZING.

And yeah the poster can claim BB is objectively the best game of the year of the ones he played, there's no need for you to be upset about his choice.

You know what "objectively" means? If he claims that, he could at least back it up with something, lol.

I'd love to read how, for example, Bloodborne is OBJECTIVELY better than Splatoon!


I do think BB is a perfectly legitimate choice for goty, though.

 

[nib95]

Grats to From. Well deserved. It's my personal pick as well, though there's some really strong contenders this year.

 

[Heartfyre]

The Witcher 3 was my personal GOTY, but it was a toss-up with Bloodborne for a long time. I'm glad it has GT's nod, since it seemed most other outlets gave it to The Witcher. And, y'know, I called it months ago!

 

[IdreamofHIME]

what changes a score for game of the year i wonder?
if you go by game review scores then the witcher was the highest score they gave for the yr. if you dont understand go back and look at each games individual review.
the scores are as follows

witcher 9.8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4-H3VTmhLQ
bloodborne 9.6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc2rEIgEaK4
mgs v 9.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTrhGCH9TOk
star craft 9.2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltIZWNz7V2c
fallout 9.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFgbt1HIYzs

but somehow bloodborne wins ?
i;m not biased at all i have yet to play any of the nominee's
i do have bloodborne and mgs in my backlog though.

i just think whats the point of a review score if the highest one doesnt even win goty.

discuss?

The reviews are just one persons opinion, as the byline on each video tells you and GOTY is decided by full staff committee...just like any outlet.
However I've always had a problem with Jones saying "we think" and "we feel" when he's doing the VO's for the reviews, because that makes the opinions of the review suddenly become that of the whole staff rather than the 1 reviewer.

 

[johnnydrama]

And yeah the poster can claim BB is objectively the best game of the year of the ones he played, there's no need for you to be upset about his choice.

I don't really care what game "wins" what awards, but what baffles me here is that grown adults are failing so hard at understanding what the word "objective" means.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

That is not at all how reviewing or scoring games works.

Like, from where I stand, Bloodborne is kind of a shitty game. I'm not saying that to be contrarian or anything--I make my living explaining game mechanics, and I genuinely feel I could back up the claims I have to make. I think there's a lot of shit it's actually pretty bad at, from gameplay to graphics (You'd think FROM would have figured out how to make good skyboxes with proper atmospheric distortion by now), and it wouldn't be anywhere near my game of the year list!

But I'm, y'know, me! I have weird opinions. I think that the best game of the year was The Witcher 3, and I think I could make a ton of arguments for why that is.

There's no such thing as "objective best game of the year," and the insipid fanboyism of the Bloodborne crowd only makes me like the game a great deal less.

I do find it ironic that as a great analyzer of mechanics you could in one breath denounce Bloodborne(with some of the most solid mechanics of any game this year) with the WC3(A game with probably the worst). Now I love both games but I do think you get a huge kick out of being contrary to a popular opinion which I love about your posts. I just had to call you out on this cause it's bs

 

[cyber_ninja]

one of their employees is called bloodworth, its a conspiracy

Not really, because his personal GOTY was Witcher 3.

 

[Nozem]

Nice to see Starcraft LotV get recognition. It's a phenomenal game.

 

[CaptainGyro]

And yeah the poster can claim BB is objectively the best game of the year of the ones he played, there's no need for you to be upset about his choice.

uhm no... he can't. He was clearly using that statement to argue that it belonged on the GT list

 

[Evazan]

Fell asleep just reading their list of nominees

So edgy.

 

[Raylan]

Happy for Bloodborne. It's the GOTY for a lot of people and it surely is the GOTY 2015 for me (together with Until Dawn).

 

[MyNameIsRye]

what changes a score for game of the year i wonder?
if you go by game review scores then the witcher was the highest score they gave for the yr. if you dont understand go back and look at each games individual review.
the scores are as follows

witcher 9.8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4-H3VTmhLQ
bloodborne 9.6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc2rEIgEaK4
mgs v 9.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTrhGCH9TOk
star craft 9.2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltIZWNz7V2c
fallout 9.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFgbt1HIYzs

but somehow bloodborne wins ?
i;m not biased at all i have yet to play any of the nominee's
i do have bloodborne and mgs in my backlog though.

i just think whats the point of a review score if the highest one doesnt even win goty.

discuss?

Come on man...think. A review on GT is one persons opinion. GOTY is voted on by the entire staff. Not that hard to figure out.

 

[Tsosie]

I think that list was a good representation of their staff. Based off of this year's content GT produced, it was clear that BB and W3 would be in a battle. My biggest surprise from GT was that Mario Maker did not make the final cut. Don's Design Lab seemed like a hint that SMM was going to be a finalist.

 

[Servbot24]

That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

Means exactly what I think it means.

I honestly didn't mean to ruffle feathers and I don't want to derail the topic since this is another subject, but I'll just say this. I think we all believe in objectivity to a degree. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that just about everyone would agree that Ocarina of Time is objectively better than Superman 64. Assuming I can reasonably make that statement, then it really just becomes a matter of defining points of quality in finer detail, which I won't go into.

That to say, the idea that there's no objectivity in art is bullshit. I'll leave it there since I know continuation of the discussion doesn't belong here and I wouldn't win anyone over anyways.

 

[GarciaHotspur]

Good. Bloodborne is just a better video game.

 

[smashballTaz]

Did they ever make the online parts of Bloodborne better? I remember at launch it was a right pain trying to invade / do co-op.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Bloodborne has been the only game this year that i'd consider absolutely unmissable. Worthy winner.

 

[sn00zer]

Bloodborne is my second favorite game ever, but Im well aware a ton of people hate it.

 

[Canis lupus]

I don't really care what game "wins" what awards, but what baffles me here is that grown adults are failing so hard at understanding what the word "objective" means.

Huh, he can claim it's a fact that it's the best he played, what's wrong with that?

 

[dmr87]

This is why you guys needed to capture the discussion on audio. It would've been a really interesting debate/argument/fight to listen to.

Should just record videos of all the discussions and release those instead. Or if they prefer to do it this way, at least record the discussions and release them after all the GOTY videos are out. I want to know the reasoning behind it all, that's more interesting than knowing who won.

 

[Magic Mushroom]

Bloodborne is my second favorite game ever, but Im well aware a ton of people hate it.

Those people probably didn't play it.

 

[sn00zer]

Those people probably didn't play it.

No no....a lot of people who played it probably hated it

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

Don - not involved in voting

Witcher 3
-Blood
-Brandon
-Matt

Bloodborne
-Ian
-Kyle
-Brad
-Ben

Unable to Choose
-Huber

I had a feeling it'd be close. And I really felt Huber was going to be the wild card. He praised both games so much. I wasn't sure where he'd land.

 

[Loakum]

MGSV got robbed...


...Of its future.

and of it's final chapter..

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

Huber, I know that feel. Can't decide between the two either, and it's partly why I have yet to contribute to the GAF GOTY voting thread.

 

[UrbanRats]

Means exactly what I think it means.

I honestly didn't mean to ruffle feathers and I don't want to derail the topic since this is another subject, but I'll just say this. I think we all believe in objectivity to a degree. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that just about everyone would agree that Ocarina of Time is objectively better than Superman 64. Assuming I can reasonably make that statement, then it really just becomes a matter of defining points of quality in finer detail, which I won't go into.

That to say, the idea that there's no objectivity in art is bullshit. I'll leave it there since I know continuation of the discussion doesn't belong here and I wouldn't win anyone over anyways.

Superman 64 is a better superman game than Ocarina is.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Nice to see Starcraft LotV get recognition. It's a phenomenal game.

Yup. I will be still playing SC2 5 years from now. I can't say that about any other MP game.

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

because they chose Bloodborne??

yes.

 

[Zakalwe]

Bloodborne is objectively the best game of the year. You might like another game more and that's fine, but no game achieved its ambitions with such a level of simultaneous reckless ambition and graceful poise.

^out of the games I played anyways, which includes all frequent noms aside from starcraft and undertale

I found it highly repetitive but not in the good trial and error way. It's certainly not that great that it beats everything by default.

TW3 has boring/shallow combat, MGSV has a terrible story/pacing, none of the AAA titles last year felt anywhere near deserving.

Games like Tales from the Boderlands and Ori and the Blind Forest just blew everything on that list away. They had so much more soul, so much more charm, they felt like unique and memorable experiences.

If TW3 had excellent combat it would have been number 1, imo.

 

[The perfect Dark]

Well, opinions.

Witcher 3 is the best game of the last decade while Bloodborne was one of the biggest disappointments this year (for me).

 

[Elandyll]

Well, opinions.

Witcher 3 is the best game of the last decade while Bloodborne was one of the biggest disappointments this year (for me).

As you say, opinions. In spite of being good, Witcher 3 was my 2nd biggest disappointment of the year (after MGS V), let alone best game of the year, and far from best of the past decade. But I have no illusion that I'm in the minority in feeling that way, and Witcher 3 is ending up collecting the most GOTYs this year it seems.