Gandalf is an asshole.

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That's right, Gandalf Stormcrow is an asshole. He sent an innocent bright-eyed hobbit on a perilous journey that ultimately cost the poor bastard its life. For what? He could have sent Frodo & the Ring on an eagle(s) and ended the threat of Sauron in a matter of days. So what was the point of dragging it out?

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Oh.

He's just another contemptible charlatan using the poor and ignorant for political gain.

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Laugh it up asshole.
 
Gandalf only "forced" Frodo to go to Rivendell. The choice to go to Mount Doom was Frodo's own. Elrond and Gandalf would've rather sent Glorfindel or another one of the elves.
 
I guess I need to reread the books, 'cause I don't remember Frodo dying.
 
mre said:
I guess I need to reread the books, 'cause I don't remember Frodo dying.

Some would interpret going "into the west" as death, but while they would be transcending their current plane of existence, Valinor is very much as real a place as any.

Tol Erresea (an island off the coast of Valinor) was the only place that Frodo/Bilbo/eventually Sam (and possibly Gimli) could be free from the suppression of the ring though so it may as well be death as far as the rest of Middle-Earth is concerned.
 
eznark said:
What is this from, isn't that Walter?

Really? soniamdisapoint.gif

Yes, it's Walter, aka Crazy D.

Some would interpret going "into the west" as death, but while they would be transcending their current plane of existence, Valinor is very much as real a place as any.

Tol Erresea (an island off the coast of Valinor) was the only place that Frodo/Bilbo/eventually Sam (and possibly Gimli) could be free from the suppression of the ring though so it may as well be death as far as the rest of Middle-Earth is concerned.

Anything would be better than living with that pack of harpies and beggars that made up Frodo's family.
 
RBH said:
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[i]"And my axe!"[/i][/QUOTE]
NOO.

There's supposed to be 'and my Bow' guy before you! The fuck is Legolas at?
 
El Sloth said:
Holy crap, I just realized that Denethor is Dr. Walter Bishop from Fringe. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit, my mind is blown.

Really? REALLY? You just NOW found that out? God damn, son!
 
People who do the whole "Why didn't they just fly the ring in" thing must really have not paid attention to the plot. The only reason Frodo and Sam got through was because the armies of Mordor were drawn out by Aragorn and co. They must also forget that there are 9 flying Nazgul that would be there trying to stop them, and the moutain probably would have been coated with archers had they tried that method. Not even remotely a plot hole.
 
El Sloth said:
It's been something like 2 years since I've seen the movies, boss. Cut me some slack.

Haha, you said boss.

Slack cut... but there won't be any gimmes next time. Better file everything away in the whole cranium from this moment forward.
 
AbortedWalrusFetus said:
Not even remotely a plot hole.


Yes, it is. They never provide reason why they couldn't. All the audience has to go on is what the movie shows/tells them. a wooden bow can reach more than a couple hundred yards at best.

So army/Sauron's eye is a logical explanation. Except that army is useless against aerial assault. And the 9 Nazgul could be overpowered with numbers.

Not saying I disagree with your post but within the context of the movie its like they pulled it out of their ass.
 
Alfarif said:
Haha, you said boss.

Slack cut... but there won't be any gimmes next time. Better file everything away in the whole cranium from this moment forward.

You said son. I was juggling with either champ or duders. :lol

Will do!
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Yes, it is. They never provide reason why they couldn't. All the audience has to go on is what the movie shows/tells them. You think a wooden bow can reach more than a couple hundred yards at best.

So army/Sauron's eye is a logical explanation. Except that army is useless against aerial assault. And the 9 Nazgul could be overpowered with numbers.

Not saying I disagree with your post but within the context of the movie its like they pulled it out of their ass.
So the entire army of orcs and trolls will be scratching their butts doing nothing as they watch Frodo riding the magic eagle into Mount Doom, instead of congregating around Mount Doom in order to rip Frodo to shreds? Brilliant logic.
 
Not to mention Saruman commanded a bunch of flocks of birds as well? They could have knocked frodo off, or overwhelmed the eagles.

It's a plot hole in your head if you think the "eagle takes frodo to mt doom" solution is viable.
 
A good look at the "Eagle" problem

As the article says, in the end it was more a matter of "there wouldn't be a story" if they just flew the ring to Mount Doom, but there are several plausible explanations within the context of Middle-Earth, the chief one being keeping the ring an absolute secret.

Should it have been brought up in the films? Probably.
 
WyndhamPrice said:
A good look at the "Eagle" problem

As the article says, in the end it was more a matter of "there wouldn't be a story" if they just flew the ring to Mount Doom, but there are several plausible explanations within the context of Middle-Earth, the chief one being keeping the ring an absolute secret.

Should it have been brought up in the films? Probably.
Ah, the Encyclopedia of Arda. I remember spending hours reading articles on that site after I finished the Silmarillion.
 
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