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Well, this is needlessly acidic. Is there are any particular reason for you two to be sniping at each other?

Anyway, my two cents:

- Drawing general conclusions from Krypt's observation is useless without tangible data backing it. It works fine as an observation of his social circle, maybe even of the wider area he lives in (but that's impossible to judge without at least some modicum of surveying).

- There's a lot of reported variation in sex drive from individual to individual. I suspect the real pattern would be far less discrete than men versus women, though I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the pooling of genders had a cumulative effect on some aspect of the relationship.

Also: Used a word with "cum" in it. This post is now 110% on-topic.
 
Botolf said:
Well, this is needlessly acidic. Is there are any particular reason for you two to be sniping at each other?

Anyway, my two cents:

- Drawing general conclusions from Krypt's observation is useless without tangible data backing it. It works fine as an observation of his social circle, maybe even of the wider area he lives in (but that's impossible to judge without at least some modicum of surveying).

- There's a lot of reported variation in sex drive from individual to individual. I suspect the real pattern would be far less discrete than men versus women, though I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the pooling of genders had a cumulative effect on some aspect of the relationship.

Also: Used a word with "cum" in it. This post is now 110% on-topic.
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Apparently lately he thinks he can needlessly attack me in other threads on GAF. I'm not the only one to have noticed. I confronted him and got no hint of an apology. Shit boiled up and I'm sorry you all had to watch.
 
krypt0nian said:
Apparently lately he thinks he can needlessly attack me in other threads on GAF. I'm not the only one to have noticed. I confronted him and got no hint of an apology. Shit boiled up and I'm sorry you all had to watch.
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Bahaha, you realize it takes two to tango? Botolf isn't picking sides. Me pointing out a flaw in your statement is hardly "attacking" you. Until you made it personal.

Edit: anyway, I need some sleep. Need to prepare for spring term..
 
You should have written it this way: THIS TIME. IT'S PERSONAL!

I suppose that we can't have a "gay" thread without catty cat fights.

Cosmic Bus said:
This page makes me think it could be worthwhile changing my stance to hating who I am because of gays like krypt and Zephyr.
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When you put it that way . . .

ZephyrFate said:
D'aww, thanks! Now go be social. :)
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On second thought, do you really want to be a social butterfly? With the talking and the listening and the dialogue.

I bet you secretly love being a hermit, Cosmic.
I know I do!
 
ZephyrFate said:
Bahaha, you realize it takes two to tango? Botolf isn't picking sides. Me pointing out a flaw in your statement is hardly "attacking" you. Until you made it personal.
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No one said you attacked me here. No one said anyone was taking sides. You are so miserable. You won't get any more replies from me here.
 
This thread has ended up beyond pathetic. For the most part it now seems to exist to house toxic arguments like this. Is this really necessary or of worth to anyone?
 
Yoshiya said:
This thread has ended up beyond pathetic. For the most part it now seems to exist to house toxic arguments like this. Is this really necessary or of worth to anyone?
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Oh, please...this thread is useful. Arguments happen but people give and receive relationship advice in here.
 
The sad thing is that underneath all the hubris and insults there's probably an interesting discussion to be had.

Qwomo said:
No, we lost awesome gay thread privileges because of racial threads.
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Personally I thought the question was rhetorical.

Also, I will marry you if you can promise me a lifetime of quinoa-based cereal. ; )
 
gerg said:
quinoa
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Scribble said:
Maybe some Gay and Bisexual relationship thread |OT| counselling is needed here.
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I've heard nothing but good things about exodus international's counselling..........
 
i_am_ben said:
I've heard nothing but good things about exodus international's counselling..........
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Perhaps we can request counselling for all of GayGAF en masse. I'm sure they'd be happy to help. We could add a rep to the skype chat
 
idwl said:
What do you guys think is an acceptable age difference , without it being weird. (Turning 20 in a few months)
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I usually date within 5 years of my age. I'm 25 and am currntly dating someone's who's 20 actually. I can go outside the boundaries as far as 30+ goes, but only for the right guy. It really depends on the person.

In all honesty, I'm one of those "age is a number" kinda guys. It comes down to maturity more than how old they are. How much we have in common plays a role too.


Garcia said:
Le lol... </3.
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I still have lots of <3 for you though, as well as ZF and Krypt!
 
Krypt, you weren't needlessly attacked. You were out of line and Zeph called you out. No need to throw a tantrum and play the victim card. Rub some dirt in it and lets move on.

As far as age goes I guess it comes down to what youre looking for. A long term relationship? Where do you see yourself in 5-10 years and where does he want to be? If you're 20 and maybe in college you may want to move to get that job thats five states away. If hes 40 his interests are more than likely to be different from yours. It may be harder to connect on a deeper level.

So I guess what I'm saying is if you want a "right now" kinda guy then age doesn't matter. If you are looking for a long term thing it becomes more important.
 
idwl said:
What do you guys think is an acceptable age difference , without it being weird. (Turning 20 in a few months)
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I'm 27 but don't really date more than a few years younger, I see more appeal in older guys for some reason. I usually look around (but not bound to) the 24-32 range. It's really different for everyone.
 
Are there any other gay guys on gaf who've been wanting to experiment with a woman? There's this girl who's really into me. She knows I'm gay, but she also knows I want to experiment with a woman and she doesn't mind. I think I'll give it a shot tomorrow. I feel some attraction to her, but I'm not sure what to make of it.
 
Stabbie said:
Are there any other gay guys on gaf who've been wanting to experiment with a woman? There's this girl who's really into me. She knows I'm gay, but she also knows I want to experiment with a woman and she doesn't mind. I think I'll give it a shot tomorrow. I feel some attraction to her, but I'm not sure what to make of it.
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My friend tells me that all the time. That he wants the vagina........... :lol
 
Stabbie said:
Are there any other gay guys on gaf who've been wanting to experiment with a woman? There's this girl who's really into me. She knows I'm gay, but she also knows I want to experiment with a woman and she doesn't mind. I think I'll give it a shot tomorrow. I feel some attraction to her, but I'm not sure what to make of it.
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Don't know until you try. You may have an epiphany at the end of it, lol.
 
idwl said:
What do you guys think is an acceptable age difference , without it being weird. (Turning 20 in a few months)
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While staying within the obvious legal boundaries, the only age difference that should matter is what you (and the other person) are comfortable with. Constricting your possible dates/mates based on what society expects is just silly; if there is attraction, a connection, and respect between two people, then that's really the end of the discussion.
 
royalan said:
I think that was just the way you handled your coming out. Everyone's different. I was one of those guys who turned Super Gay!!! when I came out my freshman year of college. I joined every GLBT group I could, and covered everything I had in rainbows. For a good two years I latched onto everything gay. It really felt good to be able to flaunt something that I had to keep hidden for so long.

Now, I'm a lot more conservative. I only volunteer occasionally, and most people I meet these days don't know I'm gay until I specifically point it out. Not because I hide my sexuality, but I finally grew into it, and it fits me the way I want it to.

There are some guys out there who choose to always live their lives loudly, and I don't judge them. That's who they are -- who they have the right to be.

I think of it like the guys out there who let themselves be defined by their favorite sports team, or the car they drive. Everyone has something.
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This is exactly what I was talking about. This is a good post so I'm going to quote it.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Krypt, you weren't needlessly attacked. You were out of line and Zeph called you out. No need to throw a tantrum and play the victim card. Rub some dirt in it and lets move on.
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Two of my posts on this page already said he didn't atk me in this thread. He has no clue what friends mean. Disagreeing is fine, ridiculing is a cunt move. That's why I got personal. He had no issue doing so in earlier threads so the door was opened wide.


I'm done shitting up Gay GAF.
 
krypt0nian said:
Two of my posts on this page already said he didn't atk me in this thread. He has no clue what friends mean. Disagreeing is fine, ridiculing is a cunt move. That's why I got personal. He had no issue doing so in earlier threads so the door was opened wide.


I'm done shitting up Gay GAF.
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I'm pretty sure you started the personal ridiculing long before I even bothered sticking you with barbs. You're not a victim, man.

Anyway, this is a good article on gay relationships and their staying power.

It's a really good read.
 
ZephyrFate said:
I'm pretty sure you started the personal ridiculing long before I even bothered sticking you with barbs. You're not a victim, man.

Anyway, this is a good article on gay relationships and their staying power.

It's a really good read.
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Link to the Glee thread. You were beyond cunty, called me delusional and so simple that I would be entertained by a shiny ball. If that's how you treat friends, you're lucky to have any.

Now twist that around to where I attacked you.
 
krypt0nian said:
Link to the Glee thread. You were beyond cunty, called me delusional and so simple that I would be entertained by a shiny ball. If that's how you treat friends, you're lucky to have any.

Now twist that around to where I attacked you.
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Why in the fuck are you bringing stuff from another thread in here? Who cares?
 
krypt0nian said:
Link to the Glee thread. You were beyond cunty, called me delusional and so simple that I would be entertained by a shiny ball. If that's how you treat friends, you're lucky to have any.

Now twist that around to where I attacked you.
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go back to that thread and whine about it. this is about as bad as someone posting female as in the male ass thread.
 
Don't really know if this is appropriate to post here, but I have a question for you guys.

Hetero women and gay men seem to have more affection for the penis than straight men have specifically for the vagina, on average. I cannot comment on lesbian women. Not to say straight men don't love the vag, just that we don't fetishize it as much. Would you agree with this statement?


Also, is the presence of a dildo in hetero relations just an acceptable substitute for another penis?

What I'm getting at here, is that functionally the penis just seems more fun for sex. If a woman is dry down there, there is always lube, but there is no real substitute for a hard cock.

If you were wondering I am straight, but ideally I would be bisexual. I've never had close gay friends (grew up in south, so even if they were they would never talk about it) so if you could humor my musings it'd be much appreciated. If I am offensive, let me know that too.
 
Yeah I agree, not sure why though.

Probably because dicks look delicious and vaginas do not. And I'm bisexual. I could walk around all day with a cock in my mouth, but I'm really reluctant to shove my face into a philly cheesesteak and lick up the grease.

Maybe it's because with vaginas I'm sure there's something hiding in there.

Something sinister and unclean.
 
Qwomo said:
Yeah I agree, not sure why though.

Probably because dicks look delicious and vaginas do not. And I'm bisexual. I could walk around all day with a cock in my mouth, but I'm really reluctant to shove my face into a philly cheesesteak and lick up the grease.

Maybe it's because with vaginas I'm sure there's something hiding in there.

Something sinister and unclean.
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BEEF

CURTAINS

'nuff said
 
alternade said:
That's EXACTLY how I feel. Once I get in a room full of people, everything wrong about me goes through my head. I look around and see everyone with their perfect bodies laughing with their friends and I get so annoyed and angry.

I've pretty much become a shut in. Haven't gone out(besides work and to get food) in months. I don't talk to my friends anymore because for me its easier to say nothing than to constantly come up with some excuse why I can't go out.
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Please do not worry. You are doing the right thing (sort of). Hang out with friends though. Gay clubs are horrible places. They illustrate so much stupidity that I disapprove of. I'm 20 now, I used to go out in London when I was 18/19. I knew so many people on the 'scene' and since getting it out of my life I have felt so much better. It's just so acidic and stupid. It turned me into a bad person too. I pushed, I shoved, I was rude - it's simply how things work in a gay bar in London, if you want a drink, if you want to get in for free etc. it's what you have to do. I knew so many people that didn't get beyond being gay. Honestly, there are so many fulfilling things in life and just because you're gay doesn't mean you have to go to gay bars. :)
 
discocaine said:
Please do not worry. You are doing the right thing (sort of). Hang out with friends though. Gay clubs are horrible places. They illustrate so much stupidity that I disapprove of. I'm 20 now, I used to go out in London when I was 18/19. I knew so many people on the 'scene' and since getting it out of my life I have felt so much better. It's just so acidic and stupid. It turned me into a bad person too. I pushed, I shoved, I was rude - it's simply how things work in a gay bar in London, if you want a drink, if you want to get in for free etc. it's what you have to do. I knew so many people that didn't get beyond being gay. Honestly, there are so many fulfilling things in life and just because you're gay doesn't mean you have to go to gay bars. :)
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This is a little bit extreme. What works for some doesn't work for others, and the 'scene' is pretty wide and varied if you look away from just soho. You certainly don't have to become a 'bad person' just to go out and have a good time. Just choose a better place.

Sure, the London scene *can* be a bitchy place of horror (hint: so can all clubs and pubs in their own ways, no matter the clientele), but places like Popstarz, Trash Palace, etc. can provide a really nice, welcoming, friendly and non-judgemental environment for gayers to meet likeminded people. I'm well past my clubbing days, but from 18-23 places like that were instrumental to my becoming a decent, well-rounded, self-confident homo. I never felt judged, or imperfect, I just had a good time.
 
swerve said:
This is a little bit extreme. What works for some doesn't work for others, and the 'scene' is pretty wide and varied if you look away from just soho. You certainly don't have to become a 'bad person' just to go out and have a good time. Just choose a better place.

Sure, the London scene *can* be a bitchy place of horror (hint: so can all clubs and pubs in their own ways, no matter the clientele), but places like Popstarz, Trash Palace, etc. can provide a really nice, welcoming, friendly and non-judgemental environment for gayers to meet likeminded people. I'm well past my clubbing days, but from 18-23 places like that were instrumental to my becoming a decent, well-rounded, self-confident homo. I never felt judged, or imperfect, I just had a good time.
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Exactly. It also depends why you're going to a club in the first place. If your primary objective is stand out from the crowd, get noticed, and pick up other guys, naturally the way in which you perceive the crowd will differ. Of course the crowd varies from place to place as well.

If you're going with a large group of friends (real ones not the acquaintance type) you'll most likely have an awesome time with them and unknowingly ignore the ones that are judging or attempting to compete with you. Really it comes down to what you're looking for at these places. When I go with a big group I end up ignoring all the superficial aspects to the club and we usually have a blast spending the night together.
 
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