Gears Ultimate Beta Access

The last two days I've been getting a lot of matches with really shitty lag. Anyone else?

Earlier my matches had been great. Just did a match for the Cole skin and the lag was horrid. Pointblank shotgun and nothing was happening. Not even melee would register as a hit. My ping was still sitting at 40ms, so idk if it was me lagging or the other players.
 
Earlier my matches had been great. Just did a match for the Cole skin and the lag was horrid. Pointblank shotgun and nothing was happening. Not even melee would register as a hit. My ping was still sitting at 40ms, so idk if it was me lagging or the other players.
Yeah that's the thing. Still says the typical 65 ms for me, but it's clearly been worse. Dunno if people from other regions are using the US ones or what.
 
Fuck the shotgun in this game, I really hate it.

Seriously what a fucking shitty multiplayer to give the ultimate treatment, fuck.

Supposedly they're looking into it to possibly fix it.

I don't know what the issue is with it but it's really, really bad. I don't see how they could leave it how it is for retail honestly, since pretty much everyone is saying it's awful.
 
People just don't know how to use the shotgun. There's nothing wrong with it imo.

I'm murdering with it

Edit. Yeah play right now to unlock Cole train!

It's not that there is anything wrong with it... It just plays differently than the last 2 Gears games. It takes a while to get used to shots coming out center screen as opposed to the barrel.
 
People just don't know how to use the shotgun. There's nothing wrong with it imo.

I'm murdering with it

Edit. Yeah play right now to unlock Cole train!

It's the shooting from the camera which really throws me off and ruins close range combat, you can't judge shooting or anything by your character and have to try and aim using the spot you know bullets appear from when you fire, that is bad, it was bad back in 2006 and it's bad now, a lazy way to make bullets appear in a shooting game based in 3rd person.
 
I'm willing to be people complaining about the Gnasher or their ability to get kills in this game, aren't as good as they think they are. I can honestly say the narrowed spread has made Ultimate even more difficult than its predecessor. Is it perfect? No. Does it need to be tweaked? Yes. Is this game horrendously brokem. Don't confuse your own inability to pay attention to the game's nuances and finer details, with it not working olp

Sure, I hated Gears 2 and dealt with Gears 3, but I still managed overcome other questionable design decisions. I stopped play those games and went back to Gears 1 because I grew tired of trying to tolerate a games I didn't find fun or balanced
 
Shotgun is actually fine if you stop trying to play like gears 3. Only thing i dislike is the slow movement and unable to cancel wall bounces.
 
It's not that there is anything wrong with it... It just plays differently than the last 2 Gears games. It takes a while to get used to shots coming out center screen as opposed to the barrel.

It's the shooting from the camera which really throws me off and ruins close range combat, you can't judge shooting or anything by your character and have to try and aim using the spot you know bullets appear from when you fire, that is bad, it was bad back in 2006 and it's bad now, a lazy way to make bullets appear in a shooting game based in 3rd person.

Im lost as to why people expect the shotgun to be different from how it was in 06.

People loved it back then and this is a remaster of that game. Of course it's going to be pretty much the same.

If you're having trouble with it, it's literally just down to practice. Took me forever to get good at gears. By the time I got Seriously on Gears 1 I was an entirely different player from when I started.
 
Im lost as to why people expect the shotgun to be different from how it was in 06.

People loved it back then and this is a remaster of that game. Of course it's going to be pretty much the same.

If you're having trouble with it, it's literally just down to practice. Took me forever to get good at gears. By the time I got Seriously on Gears 1 I was an entirely different player from when I started.

It's not the same. They moved where the bullets come out. That's what we're complaining about.
 
I put up with it back in 2006 because there was no other game like gears out there, the sequels fixed the issues over time.

I find it silly that they keep in the same wonky and terrible bullet spawning management, if people want to keep playing gears 1 then just make it backwards compatible. It's not just that though they shrunk the spread from hip fire and left all the issues of gears 1 in place so it's even more of a mess.

Part of being angry at this beta is also knowing that gears 1 could be fine tuned into something brilliant and fix what was buggy or flat out dumb from the first game, if there's a time to do that it's with this version of the game.
 
I put up with it back in 2006 because there was no other game like gears out there, the sequels fixed the issues over time.

I find it silly that they keep in the same wonky and terrible bullet spawning management, if people want to keep playing gears 1 then just make it backwards compatible. It's not just that though they shrunk the spread from hip fire and left all the issues of gears 1 in place so it's even more of a mess.

Part of being angry at this beta is also knowing that gears 1 could be fine tuned into something brilliant and fix what was buggy or flat out dumb from the first game, if there's a time to do that it's with this version of the game.

This, as is it's gears of war HD remix. If you're going to name the game Gears of War ultimate edition one would assume you're incorporating the fixes and advances made across all games.
 
When does the beta end!? And how do I melee and plant nades?

B is melee, same for grenade planting. can only plant on other players, not walls.

I really hope they add wall planting, fix the shotgun back to how it was, and fix the matchmaking so people fill in when its 3v4 faster.
 
I put up with it back in 2006 because there was no other game like gears out there, the sequels fixed the issues over time.

I find it silly that they keep in the same wonky and terrible bullet spawning management, if people want to keep playing gears 1 then just make it backwards compatible. It's not just that though they shrunk the spread from hip fire and left all the issues of gears 1 in place so it's even more of a mess.

Part of being angry at this beta is also knowing that gears 1 could be fine tuned into something brilliant and fix what was buggy or flat out dumb from the first game, if there's a time to do that it's with this version of the game.

THIS! Gears 3 is still better IMO. I have no interest in playing this multiplayer, i will get it for the SP only.
 
Dudewut?!

I hated that shit. Nearly impossible to dodge or detect. All it did was encourage camping and slowed down the pace of the game to a screeching halt. Terrible mechanic.

Again, I find it baffling people want Gears 2 and 3 features (which fundamentally change the game) in a Gears 1 remaster. Gears 1 fans had to adapt and deal with Gears 2 and Gears 3. It's only fair that the fans of those games realize that Gears 1 fans are long overdue for attention and that it only makes sense that Gears Ultimate, again a remaster of Gears 1, be as true to Gears 1 as much as possible.

Don't like that? Well you basically have three options

1) Don't buy Gears Ultimate
2) Play Gears 3
3) Buy Gears 4 when it comes out
 
I put up with it back in 2006 because there was no other game like gears out there, the sequels fixed the issues over time.

I find it silly that they keep in the same wonky and terrible bullet spawning management, if people want to keep playing gears 1 then just make it backwards compatible. It's not just that though they shrunk the spread from hip fire and left all the issues of gears 1 in place so it's even more of a mess.

Part of being angry at this beta is also knowing that gears 1 could be fine tuned into something brilliant and fix what was buggy or flat out dumb from the first game, if there's a time to do that it's with this version of the game.
Yeah I agree it's insane that they barely implemented any of the good fixes from gears 2 and 3. Yes it was a fantastic game for the time but it's aged poorly.

Again, I find it baffling people want Gears 2 and 3 features (which fundamentally change the game) in a Gears 1 remaster. Gears 1 fans had to adapt and deal with Gears 2 and Gears 3. It's only fair that the fans of those games realize that Gears 1 fans are long overdue for attention and that it only makes sense that Gears Ultimate, again a remaster of Gears 1, be as true to Gears 1 as much as possible.

Don't like that? Well you basically have three options

1) Don't buy Gears Ultimate
2) Play Gears 3
3) Buy Gears 4 when it comes out
I disagree this is gears of War ultimate which should have changes than what gears of War 1 had.

It's not going to sell well unfortunately since gears 1 just doesn't hold up as well especially now and it's one of my favorite game series ever.
 
Supposedly they're looking into it to possibly fix it.

I don't know what the issue is with it but it's really, really bad. I don't see how they could leave it how it is for retail honestly, since pretty much everyone is saying it's awful.

Blind fire only comes out in middle of the screen. Not where your gun is facing. I still don't understand why they just didn't remaster Gears 2 and include the Gears 1 maps. The movement and hit detection is dated.

I can't move freely like I could in Gears 2-J. Plus like I said, blind firing is completely different in Gears 1.

(at least I think that is what you're talking about the shotgun, original Gears 1 had random shotgun patterns also)

I think they are playing it safe with just keeping it basic. They should have added weapons and fixes of some of the other entries.

I really hope they add wall planting, fix the shotgun back to how it was, and fix the matchmaking so people fill in when its 3v4 faster.

I am mixed, but if I had to choose a side, I would choose add wall planting. Especially in Guardian gamemode. I don't know what the big deal was when you're aware they are easily avoided. Plus numerous ways to trigger them.
 
After playing the beta, I have to say I found the remake to be completely unnecessary. =(

I'll pick it up when it's $20, as that's the perfect price for it.

Likewise, this will be perfect "games with gold" title when it eventually hits that circuit.

Cool they're doing it, but not sure why it's needed.
 
Yeah I agree it's insane that they barely implemented any of the good fixes from gears 2 and 3. Yes it was a fantastic game for the time but it's aged poorly.

I disagree this is gears of War ultimate which should have changes than what gears of War 1 had.

It's not going to sell well unfortunately since gears 1 just doesn't hold up as well especially now and it's one of my favorite game series ever.

It will sell because it has 'Gears of War" on the box.

Longevity is an entirely different question.
 
It will sell because it has 'Gears of War" on the box.

Longevity is an entirely different question.

that's the other thing. Once the novelty of having Gears back wore off I was just playing a shitty version of Gears. can't really see myself sticking with it for long or at all tbh. might just skip this.
 
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