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[Silver Arrows]

of course they were "innocent" they are always innocent, don't you know it ? xD
there are many videos, but that one was the only one with subtitles. if you understand italian and neapolitan here is another video
the black girl you see is against the new migrants xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2sqH2Ef3_k

Ahh, the 'dindu'nuffin' or 'they were no angels' defense, used in the contexts of refugees.

Disgusting.

 

[danm999]

Ahh, the 'dindu'nuffin' or 'they were no angels' defense, used in the contexts of refugees.

Disgusting.

I'm sure those people had their extrajudicial murders by a criminal organisation coming.

 

[TheGravemind]

Ahh, the 'dindu'nuffin' or 'they were no angels' defense, used in the contexts of refugees.

Disgusting.

ahhhhh the " evil white kills blacks because they are blaaaacks!1!1!!!"

 

[tuxfool]

ahhhhh the " evil white kills blacks because they are blaaaacks!1!1!!!"

I'm fairly sure they aren't black...

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Fucking gross hot take for the OP. Let's just blame the victims for racist pieces of shit being racist pieces of shit, clearly they were in the wrong.

 

[Messofanego]

TheGravemind

 

[TheGravemind]

I'm fairly sure they aren't black...

the commando was on a mission to kill an italian suspected to be spy ( strangely enough no one care about this ), they brought no masks and so they tried to kill everyone who was there at the moment, included the africans which INTHISMOTHERFUCKINCASE did not have connection with the objective of the mission. I am not saying that every migrant is a fuckin criminal , i am telling you that the numbers make things unmanageable.

 

[MUnited83]

Literally defends mafia murders



and migrants are the bad evil ones?

 

[tuxfool]

I wonder if any mods have seen this thread?

 

[TheGravemind]

TheGravemind

who cares, they will find a way to ban me anyway soon. at least for a single time i speak freely and describe the situation for what it is

 

[Messofanego]

the commando was on a mission to kill an italian suspected to be spy ( strangely enough no one care about this ), they brought no masks and so they tried to kill everyone who was there at the moment, included the africans which INTHISMOTHERFUCKINCASE did not have connection with the objective of the mission. I am not saying that every migrant is a fuckin criminal , i am telling you that the numbers make things unmanageable.

Collateral damage, amirite?

Christ.

 

[TheGravemind]

Literally defends mafia murders



and migrants are the bad evil ones?

who the fuck defended them? i hate them and i would kill them that doens't mean the question end with them

 

[Messofanego]

who cares, they will find a way to ban me anyway soon. at least for a single time i speak freely and describe the situation for what it is

Does no one else here know how it is? Would you get banned for just describing the situation for what it is, or maybe having quite an extreme anti-migrant bias?

 

[TheGravemind]

Collateral damage, amirite?

Christ.

yes the fact went as i described , whatever you like it or not , they kill childrens, they kill women, they kill witnesses, they don't care about hte skin color, they care about the " business"

 

[tuxfool]

who cares, they will find a way to ban me anyway soon. at least for a single time i speak freely and describe the situation for what it is

Maybe that should be a warning sign, if it keeps happening?

 

[danm999]

who the fuck defended them? i hate them and i would kill them that doens't mean the question end with them

So then why are you scoffing at their victims innocence?!

 

[TheGravemind]

Does no one else here know how it is? Would you get banned for just describing the situation for what it is, or maybe having quite an extreme anti-migrant bias?

because you don't want to know the situation, you want to know only the part that confirms your point of view.

 

[Messofanego]

yes the fact went as i described , whatever you like it or not , they kill childrens, they kill women, they kill witnesses, they don't care about hte skin color, they care about the " business"

who the fuck defended them? i hate them and i would kill them that doens't mean the question end with them

You're the one who responded to the innocent Africans being murdered by the mafia with air quotes, and insinuating a bias towards migrants always being innocent.

of course they were "innocent" they are always innocent, don't you know it ? xD

 

[TheGravemind]

So then why are you scoffing at their victims innocence?!

it was tied with a previous message
that the example of the egyptian kids with baseball bat, they were reported as innocents. The case reached the national newspapers because they were kids, but in general, the lack of justice that ordinary people experience here is appalling.

the tunisian man who was arrested 4 times in a week was released inn the same day, no italian had been this lucky since the discovery of america

 

[TheGravemind]

You're the one who responded to the innocent Africans being murdered by the mafia with air quotes, and insinuating a bias towards migrants always being innocent.

because they are reported ALWAYS asINNOCENTS migrants escaping from war

and that's not true

 

[danm999]

because they are reported ALWAYS asINNOCENTS migrants escaping from war

and that's not true

What were the migrants murdered by the mob guilty of?

 

[Silver Arrows]

What were the migrants murdered by the mob guilty of?

Being migrants, of course! Open season, baby! /s

 

[Endorphineforeverybody]

Could be a witness thing could be rival... Dont think a clan is killing people for racist reasons and take the heat and the loss of the killers. That's not how it works.

 

[Hexa]

WTF is going on in this thread?

 

[Kazerei]

because you don't want to know the situation, you want to know only the part that confirms your point of view.

because they are reported ALWAYS asINNOCENTS migrants escaping from war

and that's not true

You should look in a mirror

 

[TheGravemind]

What were the migrants murdered by the mob guilty of?

for the state? nothing, they were indeed innocent that time ( holy fuck i tried to find a video with subtitles but if i knew you were so tick i would have posted a different video)

for the killers? because they saw them, switch that 6 africans with 6 italians and you would have the same results

but be careful to talk in public about the nigerian crime cartel that control the drug market in that place, you risk of being called racist.

 

[MUnited83]

who the fuck defended them? i hate them and i would kill them that doens't mean the question end with them

breh you just said that the victims weren't "innocent"

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

because they are reported ALWAYS asINNOCENTS migrants escaping from war

and that's not true

Right, we should totally be smearing people that after investigation have no record of crimes committed, no ties to gangs or other troublesome groups, etc. but we should smear them because they're immigrants.

No one needs to "find a way" to ban you. Your views are terrible and contradict all factual information. Migrants aren't committing any more crimes than locals, usually they even commit crime at much much lower rates because they don't want to get kicked out. But by all means beat your chest that you know better than facts and information.

for the state? nothing, they were indeed innocent that time ( holy fuck i tried to find a video with subtitles but if i knew you were so tick i would have posted a different video)

for the killers? because they saw them, switch that 6 africans with 6 italians and you would have the same results

but be careful to talk in public about the nigerian crime cartel that control the drug market in that place, you risk of being called racist.

Because they saw them? Africans can't see Italians now? Article says nothing of the six MURDERED IMMIGRANTS people being blind... SMH

 

[TheGravemind]

Right, we should totally be smearing people that after investigation have no record of crimes committed, no ties to gangs or other troublesome groups, etc. but we should smear them because they're immigrants.

No one needs to "find a way" to ban you. Your views are terrible and contradict all factual information. Migrants aren't committing any more crimes than locals, usually they even commit crime at much much lower rates because they don't want to get kicked out. But by all means beat your chest that you know better than facts and information.



Fuck off with this and your hate speech. "Innocent at the time" that's how you describe people who were murdered.

i meant innocent in that homicide case....

 

[danm999]

for the state? nothing, they were indeed innocent that time ( holy fuck i tried to find a video with subtitles but if i knew you were so tick i would have posted a different video)

for the killers? because they saw them, switch that 6 africans with 6 italians and you would have the same results

but be careful to talk in public about the nigerian crime cartel that control the drug market in that place, you risk of being called racist.

So they are in fact, totally innocent victims, despite you claiming in sneer quotes they were innocent and saying we don't understand the situation.

This from a person claiming to abhor violence but is doing their damnedest to get us to see the moral ambiguity in the mob killing some bystanders.

Oh and some whattabouism regarding Nigerians thrown in for good measure.

 

[TheGravemind]

So they are in fact, totally innocent victims, despite you claiming in sneer quotes they were innocent and saying we don't understand the situation.

This from a person claiming to abhor violence but is doing their damnedest to get us to see the moral ambiguity in the mob killing some bystanders.

Oh and some whattabouism regarding Nigerians thrown in for good measure.

whattabouism...official crime stats

amnesty international admitted nigerians bring underage boys and girls in europe through sicily thanks to their connections with human traffickers ,which, right ,now, control when, how, and how many people must reach our coast.

 

[danm999]

whattabouism...official crime stats

amnesty international admitted nigerians bring underage boys and girls in europe through sicily thanks to their connections with human traffickers ,which, right ,now, control when, how, and how many people must reach our coast.

It's whataboutism because it has nothing to do with the 2008 incident.

 

[TheGravemind]

It's whataboutism because it has nothing to do with the 2008 incident.

the discussion was not on that specific event jesus fuckin christ what i am trying to say is that people are growing tired of a situation that is way more problematic than what you think, and not always racism play the mayor role.
the people temper is heating up and this will give a huge boost to far right parties ( which , you won't believe it, i do not support ).

 

[danm999]

the discussion was not on that specific event jesus fuckin christ

That's the event you chose to highlight to prove migrants weren't integrating!

 

[Palculator]

the discussion was not on that specific event jesus fuckin christ what i am trying to say is that people are growing tired of a situation that is way more problematic than what you think, and not always racism play the mayor role.
the people temper is heating up and this will give a huge boost to far right parties ( which , you won't believe it, i do not support ).

The exact opposite is happening here in Germany, where the AfD is at their lowest point in two years. The party with the highest chances of beating the CDU is further on the left. If anything, shedding light onto hate crimes done towards migrants helps expose this far right movement for what it is and deter anyone with basic human decency.

 

[TheGravemind]

That's the event you chose to highlight to prove migrants weren't integrating!

as i already said that was the only one with subtitle for you people who speak english

if i knew i would have chose another one with just figures, like one do with children.

 

[Silver Arrows]

as i already said that was the only one with subtitle for you people who speak english

if i knew i would have chose another one with just figures, like one do with children.

Nice, insulting our collective intelligence instead of realizing that you are pulling shit out your ass to confirm your hatred of migrants.

 

[TheGravemind]

The exact opposite is happening here in Germany, where the AfD is at their lowest point in two years. The party with the highest chances of beating the CDU is further on the left. If anything, shedding light onto hate crimes done towards migrants helps expose this far right movement for what it is and deter anyone with basic human decency.

if our position were switched germans probably would have gone already full ss

 

[danm999]

as i already said that was the only one with subtitle for you people who speak english

if i knew i would have chose another one with just figures, like one do with children.

So instead of actually showing me a valid source, you pick something else that doesn't represent what you want at all, and lacks critical context someone else had to provide.

When called out on it you call me a child.

 

[Palculator]

if our position were switched germans probably would have gone already full ss

Italians making Nazi jokes...

 

[Muffin1611]

Italians making Nazi jokes...

I can't even.

 

[TheGravemind]

we also makes trump jokes haha

at least berlusconi didn't have his hand on nuclear weapons xD

 

[NoRéN]

who cares, they will find a way to ban me anyway soon. at least for a single time i speak freely and describe the situation for what it is

You poor baby. Dying for our sins.

 

[bahamut zero]

if our position were switched germans probably would have gone already full ss

Yes, you are right. We kept Auschwitz open for exactly that line of reasoning.

 

[Permanently A]

 

[Rembrandt]

for the state? nothing, they were indeed innocent that time ( holy fuck i tried to find a video with subtitles but if i knew you were so tick i would have posted a different video)

for the killers? because they saw them, switch that 6 africans with 6 italians and you would have the same results

but be careful to talk in public about the nigerian crime cartel that control the drug market in that place, you risk of being called racist.

lol, i'm so lost.

 

[KRod-57]

While I do not agree with the OP's rhetoric, I do think there are issues in the current migrant crisis that need to be addressed. Germany stepped up in a big way, and they were perhaps a bit ambitious with the amount of people they pledged to house in. I've also heard of complaints in Sweden about them having a housing shortage before taking in a large influx of migrants.

So yes, there are problems that can arise from taking in a large influx of migrants without fully being prepared with the necessary infrastructure to house such a large number of people in such a short period of time.

but what is the best solution to this problem? the best solution I know of is for more countries to step up to the plate. Countries like Germany are being overwhelmed taking in so many people because there aren't a whole lot of other countries taking such a pledge. I feel the US in particular is in a better place to take in more refugees, not just because of our size, but the fact that we're in a location of the world where very few of these migrants are arriving on their own. In Europe many people are arriving first and then applying for refugee status, where as in the US the bulk of the people we take in are coming from the UN refugee program.

When we see countries like Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Germany, and Sweden being overwhelmed with migrants, the international response should be to make greater pledges to house more migrants, but instead more and more countries are responding by closing their gates. In the end, this just makes the migrant crisis worse, and creates a greater burden on the nations that have already pledged to house such a large number of these migrants.

As for the domestic backlash that is occurring, you can't blame this on the migrants themselves. They don't have a whole lot of options, people are responding to the number that Germany has pledged by vowing to house far fewer than Germany. The migrants are left with no other choice than to go to the countries that are already overwhelmed.

 

[Muffin1611]

While I do not agree with the OP's rhetoric, I do think there are issues in the current migrant crisis that need to be addressed. Germany stepped up in a big way, and they were perhaps a bit ambitious with the amount of people they pledged to house in. I've also heard of complaints in Sweden about them having a housing shortage before taking in a large influx of migrants.

So yes, there are problems that can arise from taking in a large influx of migrants without fully being prepared with the necessary infrastructure to house such a large number of people in such a short period of time.

but what is the best solution to this problem? the best solution I know of is for more countries to step up to the plate. Countries like Germany are being overwhelmed taking in so many people because there aren't a whole lot of other countries taking such a pledge. I feel the US in particular is in a better place to take in more refugees, not just because of our size, but the fact that we're in a location of the world where very few of these migrants are arriving on their own. In Europe many people are arriving first and then applying for refugee status, where as in the US the bulk of the people we take in are coming from the UN refugee program.

When we see countries like Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Germany, and Sweden being overwhelmed with migrants, the international response should be to make greater pledges to house more migrants, but instead more and more countries are responding by closing their gates. In the end, this just makes the migrant crisis worse, and creates a greater burden on the nations that have already pledged to house such a large number of these migrants.

As for the domestic backlash that is occurring, you can't blame this on the migrants themselves. They don't have a whole lot of options, people are responding to the number that Germany has pledged by vowing to house far fewer than Germany. The migrants are left with no other choice than to go to the countries that are already overwhelmed.

Thanks for the actual informed write up of your opinion amidst all the other nonsense in this thread.

Always happy to see something like this.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

goes to show how contentious the open door policy is, and how sudden mass migration causes tension in even the most liberal of countries....

Because of people like you this stuff happens. You'd blame your untied shoelaces on im/migrants smh...

 

[Haunted]

Wow OP got thoroughly shat upon. Haven't seen a thread backfire quite like this.