What is your concrete point of argument here?The rest of EU should close their borders to germans. But, of course, they don't have the balls to go against Herr Merkel.
Aside from insulting her, which is very low brow.
What is your concrete point of argument here?The rest of EU should close their borders to germans. But, of course, they don't have the balls to go against Herr Merkel.
I am OK with Germany not taking in any more refugees, since they have more then taken their fair share. For them to process the current amount, they need time. That can't be done if almost every day you have 10.000 more people arriving.So you want equality for everyone, and yet you're OK with Germany not taking any more refugees because Merkel wants so.
So you want equality for everyone, and yet you're OK with Germany not taking any more refugees because Merkel wants so.
Yep. Schengen was a shitty idea from the start.
That's not true, where did you get that from?So now "few eastern european countries" equals to "the rest of EU". Hillarious. Southern EU countries (mainly Spain, Italy and Greece) have much more refugees than Germany would ever have.
and yet you're OK with Germany not taking any more refugees because Merkel wants so.
I think hes trying to say, that its impractical to build a wall along the whole coast line.
I always thought the whole point of a refugee is to go the nearest safe country. When people go out of their way to enter a certain country bypassing other safe countries then for me they're not refugees but migrants.
Yes, the amount of terrorist attacks within Europe is overwhelming because of exactly that. /s
Southern EU countries (mainly Spain, Italy and Greece) have much more refugees than Germany would ever have.
You want to let them die in the water, in boats where you can't even sit? All three of those are border countries, which always had bigger problems with refugees from africa/the middle east. So of course they would have more refugees than other middle/upper european countries.Southern EU countries (mainly Spain, Italy and Greece) have much more refugees than Germany would ever have.
Haha, what is this absolute bullshit you are spouting?Yep. Schengen was a shitty idea from the start.
last i checked it was Germany that put up a big sign saying "everyone come here!" not all of EUGermany has been the sole country dealing with the mass immigration crisis.
Every country has a right to control their own borders and for a country taking in 800K+ refugees I think it's horribly unfair to judge them for trying to control their border and get a hold on the situation and deal with the people they currently have now.
The EU needs to share the load and ramp up their refugee policy.
Please look up a list of the advantages of an open europa.Having open borders, and not checking ID etc, isnt that open for terrorists to travel around?.
Refugee: a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
I don't think there's a specific distance or location they have to travel to count as refugee status.
Yes, the rules (Dublin agreement) state that. But a country like Greece can't possibly be expected to do that in the state it is currently in also.Don't the EU rules state that a refugee must register themselves as such in the first EU country they come to? It seems like passing through 'poorer' countries to get to the preferable, 'richer' countries violates at least the spirit of that rule.
I feel bad for both the refugees and the EU nations involved. I have no idea how this problem can even be solved - you can't send them back if they truly face danger/persecution and you just can't take them all in.
What is the consensus European mentality exactly. Do you have some facts to based that on?
As far the polls I've seen the consensus in Italy, Denmark, Greece, Spain, France, the Netherlands are against this mass immigration. You wanna kick them out too?
I'll await polls in Germany, Sweden and Austria in the coming weeks. But if those three countries represent Europe to you, well your in a very small corner of opinion indeed.
The amount of foiled terrorists attacks IS overwhelming. So much so that I am amazed that in recent times Charlie Hebdo represents the biggest attack. Literally every week, somewhere in Europe, plans are foiled, guns are collected, explosive materials are found.
If they only caught half of the possible attacks or flukes like the American soliders stopping that gunman on a french train didn't occur, then Europe would be a police state by now. As well extreme right wing governments would be in control of most states.
I do not like the idea of a Police State or Nazi's running the show, so I am grateful.
Don't the EU rules state that a refugee must register themselves as such in the first EU country they come to? It seems like passing through 'poorer' countries to get to the preferable, 'richer' countries violates at least the spirit of that rule.
I feel bad for both the refugees and the EU nations involved. I have no idea how this problem can even be solved - you can't send them back if they truly face danger/persecution and you just can't take them all in.
Don't the EU rules state that a refugee must register themselves as such in the first EU country they come to? It seems like passing through 'poorer' countries to get to the preferable, 'richer' countries violates at least the spirit of that rule.
I feel bad for both the refugees and the EU nations involved. I have no idea how this problem can even be solved - you can't send them back if they truly face danger/persecution and you just can't take them all in.
Are you a refugee?Does this affect my holiday travel plan in EU?
Does this affect my holiday travel plan in EU?
Kicking them out of the EU and not working with them will surely be a good way to let those countries grow in those aspects...European values are common knowledge: Tolerance, prosperity and so on.
EE don't even have anything close to a multicultural society yet already complain as if the whole of Beijing is moving to Warsaw.
Not. Except maybe a passport check if you take the train from Austria to Germany.Does this affect my holiday travel plan in EU?
That they realized that such amount of refugees can't be handled anymore?
You can always invite some to live at your place, you can handle one or two right?
That's the convention, but it would be HORRIBLE to load it all off on those states...
In other news, the main trainstation in Munich is closed due a search dog reacting towards explosives.
They're currently investigating the area...
I really hope this doesn't turn out to be true...
Kicking them out of the EU and not working with them will surely be a good way to let those countries grow in those aspects...
These were countries that were part of the Soviet Union little over 25 years ago and you expect them to already be a fully Western society? That is just impossible. We have already seen countries like Poland and the Baltics grow tremendously over the past decade thanks to EU involvement and open trade. I'm actually pretty amazed by it.
European values are common knowledge: Tolerance, prosperity and so on.
EE don't even have anything close to a multicultural society yet already complain as if the whole of Beijing is moving to Warsaw.
You can make the same arguments against the UK, Netherlands, Denmark and more.That's economics and I agree that they're doing better than expected on that front. Not wanting refugees though and/or not handling the situation well is something they need to improve on quickly. We can't give them the benefit of the doubt forever, they need to work with us and not against us when stuff gets hard.
The rest of EU should close their borders to germans. But, of course, they don't have the balls to go against Herr Merkel.
What kind of backwards logic is this?Why should they when Germany isn't?
It says they're doing it to give temporary respite for the german states involved:Absolutely disgusting.
The emergency measures are designed to give some respite to Germany’s federal states who are responsible for looking after refugees.
I am OK with Germany not taking in any more refugees, since they have more then taken their fair share. For them to process the current amount, they need time. That can't be done if almost every day you have 10.000 more people arriving.
Everyone is asking him questions, let's give him a minute or two to answer a couple ones at least before s/he feels forced to run away.What kind of backwards logic is this?
LMAO
Oh dear. I'm pretty sure that those trains are packed. If someone detonated explosives in there, it would be a catastrophe.
Yes, the amount of terrorist attacks within Europe is overwhelming because of exactly that. /s
Well, its not been open for too long.
Please keep in mind this is only for Austria, and not borders with France, Belgium, Netherlands, Poland, etc.
I really doubt any end to free travel is coming within the EU. It would be unworkable.
Absolutely disgusting.
http://www.thelocal.de/20150913/berlin-hits-out-at-eus-complete-failure-to-protect-its-bordersGermany's transport minister on Sunday said that Germany has 'reached its limit,' as he called for measures to halt a record migrant influx that has seen the infrastructure of the southern city of Munich buckling.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/01ec...o-legal-limit-asylum-seekers-germany-can-takeChancellor Angela Merkel said Saturday that her country won't stop anyone from seeking asylum, as thousands of migrants desperate to leave Hungary made their way westward to Germany and Austria.
How many refugees are you currently housing?
How many refugees are you currently housing?
How many refugees are you currently housing?