Inferno313
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Yeah, I mean, I don't get why Hollywood is trying to make Charlie Hunnam a thing, either. Maybe he's good in Sons of Anarchy? But, good lord does that show not appeal to me.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't get why Hollywood is trying to make Charlie Hunnam a thing, either. Maybe he's good in Sons of Anarchy? But, good lord does that show not appeal to me.
MugiwaraCole
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It's because he's a white man. Guys, this isn't hard.
AmaterasuOni
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Guy Ritchie is a Brit. Brits do not obey Hollywood's patriarchal masterlords. Ritchie is also a kabbalistic wizard, who probably doesn't give a single fuck anyone says about his movies, casting calls or anything else.
I mean... Lucy has a 67% rating and people hate that movie....
Inferno313
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You're arguing with someone who agrees with you, calm down.
The reality is that ScarJo is one of the most famous actresses on the planet with a proven track record of starring in successful action movies. That tidbit trumps everything else in terms of casting.
Also I'm curious to know people's thoughts on Shall We Dance? with Richard Gere and JLo (there's a sentence that's never been said). It was actually a remake of a Japanese movie, but all the names and setting were changed with the principle story and title being the same. Would this be a case of whitewashing? Why or why not?
Also I'm curious to know people's thoughts on Shall We Dance? with Richard Gere and JLo (there's a sentence that's never been said). It was actually a remake of a Japanese movie, but all the names and setting were changed with the principle story and title being the same. Would this be a case of whitewashing? Why or why not?
AmaterasuOni
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Maybe it's because Guy Ritchie likes him? It is not that hard, yep. Should King Arthur be ethnic in this movie?
Beware. You're entering the racism territory!
Subpar Spatula
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Pacific Rim cost $190m and made 411m. His movies, from what is shown on wikipedia, are not in the red.
Salty Rice
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Nice to see the movie getting majority more positive reviews than negatives.
Also nice to see not everyone cares about the "controversy" that much that it influences their review that much.
Also nice to see not everyone cares about the "controversy" that much that it influences their review that much.
Its about dancing, like salsa or whatever. Its not inherently Japanese in subject and the remake doesn't parade its edgy Asian imagery in your face.
Also Jlo isn't white.
Again, they continually take the risk with white actors to manufacture new stars. Right now it feels very presumptious to assume taking a risk with a non-white actor is immediately worse when they won't ever give it a chance. But hey, seems like a lot of people are comfortable with it.
AmaterasuOni
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What's wrong with it? It's a bit short though, I'll give it that.
Some people are going to have meltdowns.
Lol no the fuck it isn'tJust look few pages back. I said that maybe there's no Asian-American actresses at the moment who can support the weight of a 120 million niche sci-fi movie. It's a suicide to even think to cast some unknown b-lister to this kind of movie. It's already a big risk with a huge star in its lead. That's why Scarjo is the lead in her tight latex suit. At least she brings the minimum back. It's just risk control.
I got called racist and was told that I said that Asian actresses can't act. They also said that I'm a liberal racist, which is an oxymoron.
But hey, supportiong ScarJo in the lead is racism! This the fucking world we live now.
ScarJo is one of the best things in this movie.
Inferno313
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Yeah, what the hell? Hahaha.
MugiwaraCole
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I wasn't arguing with you, or anyone, merely pointing out the obvious. If not for your benefit, for others.
Hold that "calm down" bit.
jack_package_200
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Like those haven't already happened.
Maybe Ghostbuster was a warning, that you can not write a movie review and not write about the movie.
Lights and Waves
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It's honestly really immature of you to derail any chance of engaging in an intelligent discussion by posting shit like this. Do you think you're clever? Do you honestly think stupid posts like this are making our forum a worthwhile place?
If you're going to act like a petulant crybaby, please find a different forum to ruin.
I'm more surprised the director of Snow White and the Huntsman made a decent movie.
That was such trash.
I loved the visual aspect of this film, so going from this to the 20 year old anime is going to be a little jarring. Still keeping an open mind about it.
Psycho_Mantis
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But this is 20 years later.....the idea of AI becoming sentinet is cliche at this point.
Carl2291
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Let's just hope it makes some good money to go hand in hand with those reviews.
The original film does have social commentary about Japanese societal norms and gender roles. Every film has some degree of influence from the culture of its creators. I understand your point about wanting to take use Asian aesthetic only on a surface level, but when adapting a work for an entirely different culture, it's obvious that major changes will be made. I can sympathize with Asian Americans who feel connections to works created by Asians only to see them marginalized in an adaptation though.
AmaterasuOni
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Is it a new buzzword then? Sorry, I don't follow the western dichotomy that closely as I'm not even remotely interested in the 1st world issues people are having in their personal existential crisis scenarios at their early 20s. I'm too old for that shit.
Anyway, liberal racism sounds fun. I might be one, who knows (I don't actually want to know, please don't link any shitty blogs to me). I'm liberal at least, but I don't think I'm racist in any way. If there's enough will, there's always means to mark people with some negative labels that mean absolutely nothing. This is the fucking world we live.
I might be a bit cis-sexist though as I truly enjoyed ScarJo in GitS.
I'm not ruining anything. It was other people who fucking attacked me accusing me of racism when I only asked a legit question about the current situation of the American actresses. That's immature behaviour when you attack people without reasons.
It doesn't say anything at all. It reviews a movie like GameSack reviews video games. "Has stuff in it. Kinda drags. Cool action scenes." Then it ends with the dumb "doesn't stand a ghost of a chance" like he's trying to be clever.
BlueTsunami
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Lights and Waves
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Your posts in this thread are extremely dismissive of virtually anyone who has a different opinion than yours or doesn't agree with you.
We're all entitled to our own opinions, but there's no need to be so needlessly vocal on here with your victim "oh someone called me racist on the internet once so now I have a chip on my shoulder" complex.
Come on dude.
"It's a Shell of its former self! MAJOR issues! Masamu-nay!"
AmaterasuOni
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Movie journalism is a dying breed. Most reviews these days are all kinds of bad. Most of them are also useless, because of the nature of social media and word of mouth.
AmaterasuOni
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Yes, everyone has the right to their opinions. You do not fucking start barking racism when someone does not agree with you. That's the very basics of etiquette.
Is it ok if I start to call you racist?
MugiwaraCole
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A liberal racist doesn't think he's racist. This is the gift that keeps on giving.
AmaterasuOni
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Name one thing I said which is racism. Name one fucking thing.
Inferno313
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I think AmaterasuOni's posts are single-handily going to make me change my mind on liking this movie when I saw it last night, christ.
7DollarHagane
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Sounds like a good one to wait for a rental on. Too bad.
It was barely saved by China in spite of disappointing everywhere else. He was also the worst part of the film.
Thats all true. Its probably mostly a matter of people caring about diversity today and not much then. I think I watched it like 15 years ago.
I haven't watched GITS yet, but apparently they explain things that may or may not justify the shape it took. Cant wait!
radios shipping overview
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The original GitS holds up very well.
Inferno313
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Like the recent Beauty and the Beast remake, I'd personally place it on the: "Wouldn't buy a Blu-ray, but would possibly rewatch if I stumbled upon it on cable" tier.
AmaterasuOni
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By the way. My nickname is Japanese, it has a Goddess in it and I'm a white cis-male. Am I racist?
Inceptional
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I don't understand almost everybody here assuming the movie is good because it's most definitely not. It makes Lucy look like a masterpiece and I fucking hate Lucy. But at least Lucy didn't bore me to tears and that is the worst sin a movie can commit imo. The fact they managed to make GitS boring is really a feat unto itself.
Even worse than that, they think because they are liberal they can't possibly be racist.
It's like saying: "I am not racist, some of my best friends are black." after saying racist shit.
Inferno313
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BlueTsunami
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Look up cultural appropriation you weaboo! /s
MilkLizard
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Yes. The rest is true though.
I imagine the movie's RT rating will drop more as critics actually get to see the movie since my friend wasn't even offered a screener.
MugiwaraCole
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*spouts harmful rhetoric* "I'm a liberal though! Liberal racist is an oxymoron, and I certainly don't think I'm a racist!" I just ugh.
Inferno313
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My screening was 2D, can't comment on that unfortunately. :/
Looks lovely in 2D, fwiw.
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