You know what? I'll admit I'm wrong in not reading your past posts up to this point, I get what you mean now.
I wasn't downplaying what you were saying, I was responding to your post as I read it. Like I said, my mistake for not going back for a greater context. I said generalization because that's how I saw it, didn't mean to imply any insult by that. Instead what I was trying to do is start up a conversation about it as I do kinda get annoyed by the insinuation of people disliking something being a part of a greater injustice. Not as annoyed as I am by MRA types finding bullshit and harassing people, but you know what I mean.
You know what? I'll admit I'm wrong in not reading your past posts up to this point, I get what you mean now.
I wasn't downplaying what you were saying, I was responding to your post as I read it. Like I said, my mistake for not going back for a greater context. I said generalization because that's how I saw it, didn't mean to imply any insult by that. Instead what I was trying to do is start up a conversation about it as I do kinda get annoyed by the insinuation of people disliking something being a part of a greater injustice. Not as annoyed as I am by MRA types finding bullshit and harassing people, but you know what I mean.
I agree with the former. But the fans who are literally going to go on campaign to dislike a video and comment vocally and repeatedly on the internet is a far smaller subset of that group. And ignoring that they exist or their magnitude is not good.
Many fans, like the fans of Power Rangers, Transformers, Star Trek, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Terminator, Robocop, etc. just said "I don't like this" and moved on.
I agree with all of this, but, that was an awful first trailer. Literally took everything people loved about Ghostbusters and shat on it with its B-movie paradoy humor, that is as much garbage as 90% of the wayans movies are filled with. After 25 years they put out possibly the antithesis to what Ghostbusters comedy was about. Seriously, 180 head spin, massive puking, slap a possession out of someone. If it didn't say Ghostbusters on it, people would assume it's the next scary movie paradoy. Luckily, from the reviews, that B-movie shit was far and few-between.
Did it deserve all this nonsense? No. Was the trailer embarrassing? Absolutely. It Was just a shit trailer that was cut together in the worst humanely way possible. The last trailer should have been what they showed first.
I agree with all of this, but, that was an awful first trailer. Literally took everything people loved about Ghostbusters and shat on it with its B-movie paradoy humor, that is as much garbage as 90% of the wayans movies are filled with. After 25 years they put out possibly the antithesis to what Ghostbusters comedy was about. Seriously, 180 head spin, massive puking, slap a possession out of someone. If it didn't say Ghostbusters on it, people would assume it's the next scary movie paradoy. Luckily, from the reviews, that B-movie shit was far and few-between.
Did it deserve all this nonsense? No. Was the trailer embarrassing? Absolutely. It Was just a shit trailer that was cut together in the worst humanely way possible. The last trailer should have been what they showed first.
The man himself is not, but his pizza is. It's a strange collaboration for a movie that is supposedly progressive, because the Papa himself is a piece of shit.
I know lets divide pro and anti Ghostbusters people into teams
#Team Conspiracy/Crazy for pro
#Team Sane/Good Writing for anti
Improvement Idea #2
Leslie Jones should have had a bigger backstory. Also the other team members should have been Leslie Jones's family member like her sister, father, and mother. They should have called the film Ghostbusting in the Family or something. I really liked Leslie Jones's character.
Improvement Idea #2
Also the other team members should have been Leslie Jones's family member like her sister, father, and mother. They should have called the film Ghostbusting in the Family or something. I really liked Leslie Jones's character.
The entire backlash to the film getting good reviews is hilarious. It's like that video of that guy at McDonalds who goes on a five-minute long tirade about women because a woman dared take his order.
That plus a sixth Ghostbuster, who goes by the assassin's creed code. That would alleviate the problems people have with Leslie Jones I think. And spaghetti.
I know lets divide pro and anti Ghostbusters people into teams
#Team Conspiracy/Crazy for pro
#Team Sane/Good Writing for anti
Improvement Idea #2
Leslie Jones should have had a bigger backstory. Also the other team members should have been Leslie Jones's family member like her sister, father, and mother. They should have called the film Ghostbusting in the Family or something. I really liked Leslie Jones's character.
Honestly if I were to make any changes to the movie it would be the following:
1) tighten up the story, there's some shit left unexplained or just is kind of confusing in reflection (almost all of that occurs in the epic 3rd act)
2) somebody go back and edit some of the gags. I dislike Paul Feig in my head, but I now am starting to realizing that I actually like like 85% of his comedies, but he just drags some jokes out past where they should go, and they go from funny to dumb. For me this was the
queef joke, the middle finger/suck it section, and the Power of Patt
y compels
you line. There is some of that in the original that I also don't like but IMO there's more here.
3) I would have toned down McKinnon's character when she is not the focus of the scene. I agree she was the best character, but I thought she was occasionally played in a way that distracted from the movie. She was just past the point of what seemed believable. I feel similarly about Cecily Strongs character but she was obviously used much more sparingly.
Edit: also, the original siren is far superior and needs to make a return in the sequel
Cutting out the middle finger part, the fart joke, and editing the run-on jokes like the cat in the bag/put it back in the bag for example would improve the movie and be extraordinarily easy changes to make lol
Saw it earlier. Attributing this to low expectations I thought it was fine, not without its issues. Did not like the villain at all though, but definitely laughed overall more than I thought I would.
Also chain pizza placements in movies set in NY make me sad.
I mean, they already have Hemsworth possibly set up, but he'll likely just keep being the receptionist, though I could see them putting him in more action.
There's a separate Ghostbusters project supposedly happening to with males, so they could throw him into that I guess.
I mean, they already have Hemsworth possibly set up, but he'll likely just keep being the receptionist, though I could see them putting him in more action.
There's a separate Ghostbusters project supposedly happening to with males, so they could throw him into that I guess.
I can just see it. The movie got decent (if unspectacular) reviews but is probably underperforming. It seems Sony really wants to turn this into a franchise. You know they are going to add a male member to the team, and of course Pratt is super popular. Hell, I can see them making Hemsworth a full time member too and have 6 Ghostbusters.
I can just see it. The movie got decent reviews but is probably underperforming. You know they are going to add a male member to the team, and of course Pratt is super popular. Hell, I can see them making Hemsworth a full time member too and have 6 Ghostbusters.
It's fine without Pratt. They're not going to throw Pratt into this line of movies. The five of them that are there are great, and I doubt people would suddenly warm up to it and let bygones be bygones just because Chris Pratt's in it now.
But, you know, then again, people are goddamned idiots.
It's fine without Pratt. They're not going to throw Pratt into this line of movies. The five of them that are there are great, and I doubt people would suddenly warm up to it and let bygones be bygones just because Chris Pratt's in it now.
But, you know, then again, people are goddamned idiots.
I mean, they already have Hemsworth possibly set up, but he'll likely just keep being the receptionist, though I could see them putting him in more action.
There's a separate Ghostbusters project supposedly happening to with males, so they could throw him into that I guess.
I'm not sure how they are going to play that all male movie. I'm not saying it can't be done... But how?
I feel like they need a sequel with the ladies first, then set up a franchise elsewhere, or split the ladies up into two teams... Or something, but give them a chance to be established.
I wouldn't necessarily mind a Jurassic world style sequel to the original, where the original team disappeared somehow, but the ghosts have been relatively quiet, and people basically moved on. A new team needs to pick up from scratch, but doesn't have access to all of the old tech. Can rescue the original crew in the end.
Then tie the girls and bros universes together through some dimensional stuff (and include the cartoon universe for shits and giggles). Yeah it would be dumb, but potentially dumb and fun.... (Yes I have been reading the Get Real IDW miniseries.)
That Humble Ghostbusters Comic Book Bundle might have been the best $15 I have spent on comics. In the last couple of years.
So not that I really care, but any guesses on how they can kill the ghosts now? New proton ability? Also it seems ghosts were only extremely manifest due to the contraptions. So how are they going to appear in a sequel? The lay lines? More tech causing it? Maybe a bunch that escaped being sucked back in the portal?
So not that I really care, but any guesses on how they can kill the ghosts now? New proton ability? Also it seems ghosts were only extremely manifest due to the contraptions. So how are they going to appear in a sequel? The lay lines? More tech causing it? Maybe a bunch that escaped being sucked back in the portal?
The devices weakened the barriers. Actually, before that, there were discussions in the Ghost from our Pasts book that some ley lines have weak spots already, so very strong willful ghosts can easily cross over.
I'm not sure how they are going to play that all male movie. I'm not saying it can't be done... But how?
I feel like they need a sequel with the ladies first, then set up a franchise elsewhere, or split the ladies up into two teams... Or something, but give them a chance to be established.
I wouldn't necessarily mind a Jurassic world style sequel to the original, where the original team disappeared somehow, but the ghosts have been relatively quiet, and people basically moved on. A new team needs to pick up from scratch, but doesn't have access to all of the old tech. Can rescue the original crew in the end.
Then tie the girls and bros universes together through some dimensional stuff (and include the cartoon universe for shits and giggles). Yeah it would be dumb, but potentially dumb and fun.... (Yes I have been reading the Get Real IDW miniseries.)
That Humble Ghostbusters Comic Book Bundle might have been the best $15 I have spent on comics. In the last couple of years.
This would be an absolute nightmare PR move. So the female Ghostbusters are missing, and men have to save them at the end? I'm sure your idea was innocent but that's how it would read thanks to all this fuckery.
There are multiple ways they can do it:
1. Set the movie 6 months to a year after the first one, the Ghostbusters are established now and have hired more people. The movie follows them with cameos from the others, they're off doing their own thing that's featured in another movie that's a direct sequel to Answer the Call.
2. Follow Channing Tatum's idea and have it just be a completely separate group of people that develop tech on their own, have them eventually join the main team or become a part of Ghostbusters Inc.
3. Completely different group of people who live in a city overrun by ghosts, they hear about the Ghostbusters on TV and either contact them or imitate them, again eventually becoming a franchise themselves under Ghostbusters Inc.
4. Have a story that features anti-heroes, a group that either steals the plans for the Proton Packs or copies them entirely out of the book Abby and Erin wrote, they start their own rival Ghostbusters company called Ghost Blasters, adapt the IDW comics storyline.
I mean, the villain of Answer the Call is essentially a reverse Ghostbusters already, his tech is based on Abby and Erin's book but he flips it so instead of busting and containing ghosts it powers them up and brings them to our world.
5. Now that Ghostbusters is a government funded operation, they could make government-created teams in areas with high paranormal activity.
So not that I really care, but any guesses on how they can kill the ghosts now? New proton ability? Also it seems ghosts were only extremely manifest due to the contraptions. So how are they going to appear in a sequel? The lay lines? More tech causing it? Maybe a bunch that escaped being sucked back in the portal?
Ghosts already exist in the world as evident by Erin's story of seeing one as a child, Rowan's devices being used on weak points along Lay Lines just made it way easier for them to come here.
That's something Ghostbusters II really just shits the bed with. What so in the five years between GB and GBII the ghosts just dried up? Stopped appearing? And people just forgot about what happened at the end of GB? Really dumb move. Ghosts should be an ever present thing, but their numbers increase either because of weak points in Lay Lines (really awesome idea, thanks Feig) or because large-scale paranormal events happen, but they should never just fuckin disappear entirely.
Apparently it got as far as a 30 page treatment which apparently wasn't very good according to Reitman.
It was never even really close to a thing, again according to Reitman
I was never involved in that, it was never real. There was a writer hired by the studio who did 30 pages, and it wasn't very good. The biggest misconception was that we were creating a parallel film in case the girls version didn't work out. But the only movie we were making was Paul's movie. It never faltered.
That's something Ghostbusters II really just shits the bed with. What so in the five years between GB and GBII the ghosts just dried up? Stopped appearing? And people just forgot about what happened at the end of GB? Really dumb move. Ghosts should be an ever present thing, but their numbers increase either because of weak points in Lay Lines (really awesome idea, thanks Feig) or because large-scale paranormal events happen, but they should never just fuckin disappear entirely.
I think it was alluded to in the original 1984 movie that Gozer was the reason why the dead were rising in the first place. The apartment building that Dana and Louis were residents in was designed in the early 1900's to be a catalyst for collecting supernatural energy from the dead to open up a gateway that would bring about the end of the world. And the Ghostbusters were at the tail end of this slow burn uprising. Winston and Ray bring this up when they talk about judgement day in Ecto 1. I think the moment that they stopped Gozer was also the moment that they crippled their own business.
But at the same time, it doesn't really make any sense that people would forget about what happened five years earlier, nor does it explain why the mayor and the city of New York wasn't on their side.
But of course in Ghostbusters II, ghosts were on an uprising again thanks to the concentrated slime under the city that was feeding off the negative vibes of bitter New Yorkers. Though the pink slime never really had a back story behind it or hos it manifested itself.
I think it was alluded to in the original 1984 movie that Gozer was the reason why the dead were rising in the first place. The apartment building that Dana and Louis were residents in was designed in the early 1900's to be a catalyst for collecting supernatural energy from the dead to open up a gateway that would bring about the end of the world. And the Ghostbusters were at the tail end of this slow burn uprising. Winston and Ray bring this up when they talk about judgement day in Ecto 1. I think the moment that they stopped Gozer was also the moment that they crippled their own business.
But at the same time, it doesn't really make any sense that people would forget about what happened five years earlier, nor does it explain why the mayor and the city of New York wasn't on their side.
But of course in Ghostbusters II, ghosts were on an uprising again thanks to the concentrated slime under the city that was feeding off the negative vibes of bitter New Yorkers. Though the pink slime never really had a back story behind it or hos it manifested itself.
Yeah it's also so strange how so many people think they were frauds despite the Ghostbusters probably operating for weeks or months as well as a Godzilla sized Marshmallow Man doing some serious property damage to downtown New York.
Also the Ghostbusters were operating with authorization from the mayor at the end of the first film so it's strange they got sued by the Government (though they don't say if the Government wins, seeing as how they still have their equipment and the firehouse I'm guessing the Ghostbusters won their legal case).
I wish Ghostbusters 2 had gone through some more drafts to change some of the stupid stuff with the plot, the changes that made in inline with the cartoon and made the story more different then the first movie. The humor in the movie is still very good so with some changes it could of easily been another classic.
I think it was alluded to in the original 1984 movie that Gozer was the reason why the dead were rising in the first place. The apartment building that Dana and Louis were residents in was designed in the early 1900's to be a catalyst for collecting supernatural energy from the dead to open up a gateway that would bring about the end of the world. And the Ghostbusters were at the tail end of this slow burn uprising. Winston and Ray bring this up when they talk about judgement day in Ecto 1. I think the moment that they stopped Gozer was also the moment that they crippled their own business.
But at the same time, it doesn't really make any sense that people would forget about what happened five years earlier, nor does it explain why the mayor and the city of New York wasn't on their side.
But of course in Ghostbusters II, ghosts were on an uprising again thanks to the concentrated slime under the city that was feeding off the negative vibes of bitter New Yorkers. Though the pink slime never really had a back story behind it or hos it manifested itself.
Tobin's Spirit Guide existing refutes the idea that it's only due to Shandor's tower, though. The book and its contents prove that paranormal entities have been around much longer than just the tower - especially since the tower was obviously built to act as a doorway into the spirit realm, which means that it exists and has existed. Shandor and his followers had to know Gozer existed to worship him and build him a doorway. And unless Vinz Clortho is talking about alternate dimensions when he describes things like Slores and Gozer's previous forms, paranormal happenings have been going on for a long, long time. And even if he was talking about alternate dimensions, that doesn't explain Vigo, who is clearly from "our" world yet still sat on a throne above a river of slime and was able to somehow preserve his soul in a painting.
Both Ghostbusters worlds exist on the idea that ghosts exist but until a massive psychokinetic outbreak like Gozer, Vigo, or Rowan, the general populace scoff at the mere thought that ghosts are real. They don't just suddenly start appearing due to the threat from both movies, the threat is just what gets more of them appearing faster. Making them "dry up" between massive events was just poor writing on Aykroyd's part which thankfully Feig avoided by making it clear the Ghostbusters would be allowed to continue their research between movies.
Making them "dry up" between massive events was just poor writing on Aykroyd's part which thankfully Feig avoided by making it clear the Ghostbusters would be allowed to continue their research between movies.
Well the original Ghostbusters was written under the assumption that it would be a stand alone movie. Columbia didn't push for a sequel until after the success of the Real Ghostbusters cartoon series, which was two years later. The Feig movie was designed to be sequelized.
But to me it always felt like the tower from the first movie was what made ghosts a more frequent occurrence instead of just isolated and rare events. Like the reason why they were able to get a live sample was because of the frequency in sighting around New York, which was had become a hotbed of activity .
The Ghostbusters themselves were also partially responsible for speeding up Gozer when they denied Walter Peck a chance to look at their containment field and he later shut it down on them. That cause unleash of energy all at once.
But yeah, that doesn't make sense when you add GBII into the picture , as it doesn't explain if the rivers of slime were already there or related or if they showed up later or what. But there were a lot of soft restart buttons being pressed in Ghostbusters II, and it was drawing to much influence from the cartoon series.
Those two would be shoe-ins for some sort of hypothetical all male team. Other actors I'd like to see are Paul Rudd and Hannibal Buress.
I'm really not sure if Hannibal Buress can act at all, but something about his comedic timing seems perfect for Ghostbusters.
For women, obviously Emma Stone could be good, or Aubrey Plaza. Also, I think Runkles wife in Californication is hilarious, and would watch her in basically anything.
That's something Ghostbusters II really just shits the bed with. What so in the five years between GB and GBII the ghosts just dried up? Stopped appearing? And people just forgot about what happened at the end of GB? Really dumb move. Ghosts should be an ever present thing, but their numbers increase either because of weak points in Lay Lines (really awesome idea, thanks Feig) or because large-scale paranormal events happen, but they should never just fuckin disappear entirely.
In my opinion, this shouldn't matter. Quality of the film aside, they make it clear early in GB2 that they got sued by the city, county and state of new york. They have each gone their separate ways working random jobs, occasionally filling in as the entertainment for kids parties. But it's pretty clear they gave it up (albeit without sacrificing what tools they have left) What they don't specify in the film is whether they are capable of affording to fix the damage the firehouse and their containment unit sustained (odds are, getting sued by the entirety of New York probably saps funds quite a bit). What good is catching ghosts if they can't contain them? It is entirely feasible that, while ghosts did continue to exist in the world, they were not threatening enough to bring the ghostbusters back into the fold. It isn't until the Ghosts resurface following the incident at the Courthouse, when Aykroyd screams We're Back! that it's likely they just received the funding they needed from the City, county and state of new york to Re-open shop and they are able to get back to work immediately (acknowledging that the ghostly presence was very much still around with another work montage, although once again, amplifed by another malevolent force in the form of Vigo and his Psychomagnetheric slime flow)
Well the original Ghostbusters was written under the assumption that it would be a stand alone movie. Columbia didn't push for a sequel until after the success of the Real Ghostbusters cartoon series, which was two years later. The Feig movie was designed to be sequelized.
But to me it always felt like the tower from the first movie was what made ghosts a more frequent occurrence instead of just isolated and rare events. Like the reason why they were able to get a live sample was because of the frequency in sighting around New York, which was had become a hotbed of activity .
The Ghostbusters themselves were also partially responsible for speeding up Gozer when they denied Walter Peck a chance to look at their containment field and he later shut it down on them. That cause unleash of energy all at once.
But yeah, that doesn't make sense when you add GBII into the picture , as it doesn't explain if the rivers of slime were already there or related or if they showed up later or what. But there were a lot of soft restart buttons being pressed in Ghostbusters II, and it was drawing to much influence from the cartoon series.
Your first point is fine and true in that it wasn't designed to be sequelized, but that isn't an excuse for the poor writing or concept of them going under. They could have just as easily written a story where they were still busting ghosts and working for the city, they didn't have to make them get sued into oblivion.
Your second point, I get what you're saying now about the rarity of ghosts, I misunderstood before and thought you meant that ghosts just straight up weren't a thing until some kind of large-scale event happened and brought them out.
Ghostbusters 2 needs a remake IMO. I really like the Mood Slime, the Slime Blowers, and I think Vigo is a great, creepy villain. If they remade it in the way that Answer the Call is a remake of Ghostbusters - IE, same general plot points but a new and different path between them, there is a great film in there with some changes and tightening up. They really didn't get into ectoplasm at all in Answer the Call outside of
the running gag about it getting on Erin all the time, they could explore it more in a sequel and bring in the Mood Slime elements. Also when the Lay Lines broke the concrete, especially in the mansion, there was a ton of ectoplasm bubbling up so there's the River of Slime already set up - rivers of ectoplasm that flow along the Lay Lines under the surface of the planet. They could change Vigo a little and he could be like the Ruler of the Sea of Slime, and he has a ghost ship and crew that sails along the Rivers of Slime causing devastation wherever he goes. That would easily and conveniently take the Ghostbusters outside of New York, which Feig says he wants to do in the sequel, and the Ecto-4 could be a boat instead of another car..
In my opinion, this shouldn't matter. Quality of the film aside, they make it clear early in GB2 that they got sued by the city, county and state of new york. They have each gone their separate ways working random jobs, occasionally filling in as the entertainment for kids parties. But it's pretty clear they gave it up (albeit without sacrificing what tools they have left) What they don't specify in the film is whether they are capable of affording to fix the damage the firehouse and their containment unit sustained (odds are, getting sued by the entirety of New York probably saps funds quite a bit). What good is catching ghosts if they can't contain them? It is entirely feasible that, while ghosts did continue to exist in the world, they were not threatening enough to bring the ghostbusters back into the fold. It isn't until the Ghosts resurface following the incident at the Courthouse, when Aykroyd screams We're Back! that it's likely they just received the funding they needed from the City, county and state of new york to Re-open shop and they are able to get back to work immediately (acknowledging that the ghostly presence was very much still around with another work montage, although once again, amplified by another malevolent force in the form of Vigo and his Psychomagnetheric slime flow)
I don't think they got any additional funding from anyone after the "we're back!" bit because they wind up in jail again thanks to the mayor's assistant who thinks they're all crazy and full of shit.
But you bring up good points about them possibly just not even being able to afford keeping their doors open. I just think having them be sued to hell and back was a cop out and poor writing designed to have them broken up at the start and need to reform.
It's just evident to me that Aykroyd really enjoys having the Ghostbusters constantly on the brink of going under since that's also how Ghostbusters: Hellbent starts.
But yeah it's entirely possible that there were still ghosts between movies but the threats weren't large enough for them to be called (if they could even afford to do so) until the Vigo upswing happened and boosted all the paranormal activity. It's still straight bullshit that everyone just plain old forgot the first movie happened though.
I saw this tonight and had super low expectations.
Based on the trailer I had big antipathy towards McCarthy and the black lady whose name I don't remember right now. Especially McCarthy seems to be unbelievably annoying in all the trailers she's in. I have never had any interest in watching any of her movies because of the trailers.
However, it seems they had put all the most annoying things from the movie in the trailers. Both McCarthy and the black lady were pretty good in the actual movie. And in the end, in the context of the movie and seeing the characters before and after all the stupid screaming and one-liners, those moment weren't as bad as they seemed to be in the trailers.
The movie even ended up making me genuinely laugh at some points. Chris Hemsworth was funny.
I was also surprised that the "female Egon" ended up being the most annoying and "cringeworthy" of them all. That said, I thought even she was quite good most of the time.
It was a surprisingly good movie. I'd go to see the sequel if they ever make one.
This was again one example to not judge a movie by its trailers.
Just saw it. I'm disappointed that so many people made such a stink about the women aspect, because none of this movie's problems have to do with that. Most of the film is just really boring. There's this constant rapid-fire "awkward humor" running throughout the whole thing that just isn't funny 90% of the time, and there are long stretches where the movie just dumps loads of exposition on you without even attempting to entertain. The best part of the movie is when it stops trying to be a comedy and just does action-y stuff in the final act.
Honestly, I think comparisons to Pixels are entirely apt as that movie feels really similar to this one. Lots of jokes that don't land with maybe a few that make you chuckle, heavy emphasis on really colorful and fake-looking effects, and entirely based around pandering to nostalgia for beloved properties without really understanding what people liked about those things in the first place.
That all being said, nothing about this reboot is irredeemable and they could easily fix most of the problems with a sequel, so I'll be interested to see if they make an attempt.
Just saw it. I'm disappointed that so many people made such a stink about the women aspect, because none of this movie's problems have to do with that. Most of the film is just really boring. There's this constant rapid-fire "awkward humor" running throughout the whole thing that just isn't funny 90% of the time, and there are long stretches where the movie just dumps loads of exposition on you without even attempting to entertain. The best part of the movie is when it stops trying to be a comedy and just does action-y stuff in the final act.
Honestly, I think comparisons to Pixels are entirely apt as that movie feels really similar to this one. Lots of jokes that don't land with maybe a few that make you chuckle, heavy emphasis on really colorful and fake-looking effects, and entirely based around pandering to nostalgia for beloved properties without really understanding what people liked about those things in the first place.
That all being said, nothing about this reboot is irredeemable and they could easily fix most of the problems with a sequel, so I'll be interested to see if they make an attempt.
That's the issue. People didn't care that it was women, the story just sucks. The jokes suck, the effects suck, and the script itself sucks too.
Would've been way cooler if they were a little more serious, and if they linked back to the original ghostbusters. Such as maybe one of them is their daughters and that's why she's a genius.
That's the issue. People didn't care that it was women, the story just sucks. The jokes suck, the effects suck, and the script itself sucks too.
Would've been way cooler if they were a little more serious, and if they linked back to the original ghostbusters. Such as maybe one of them is their daughters and that's why she's a genius.
It's definitely better as it is where they don't have to look up to a man to look for inspiration. And they're dialogue was a pretty decent attempt at stem women.
