Twin Tails
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Thursday stream confirmed. They also said they might do another, so tomorrow? Gone for Friday.
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Thursday stream confirmed. They also said they might do another, so tomorrow? Gone for Friday.
I do find it funny Brad likes to spoil things for other people since when he said he was going to catch up with Assassins Creed he asked the other guys not to discuss the story of the later games since he was going to play them.
Separating creator from creation I struggle a lot with. I try and take it on a case-by-case basis because I don't really know where I fall on the issue. For me, it's less a line in the sand and more a spectrum. There's some things I can overlook, and others too egregious that I can't.
He really did seem like that on the Night Show, but I didn't hear anything too objectionable.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It's the ever hilarious paradox of the Shoemaker. He absolutely hates getting spoiled but will not hesitate to spoil others.
I don't think he can use "not spoiling would stifle discussion" because he has absolutely stifled discussion in the past by asking not to be spoiled.
CoolBatteryCharge
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Overuse of footage from later Journey sections in games media is what made me give up playing it. I will never be able to build up to those moments and see how they stand out from the rest of the game without thinking how I've already seen it a million times.
Having re watched Firefly recently I thought about this yeah.
Mister Negative
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Yeah, it's really unfortunate, but Journey is one of those "you had to be there" games. You also kind of had to get lucky to get the full experience out of it. Nowadays if you tried to play you'd probably be with a white robe, and just knowing that the person with you has done all this before a lot would kind of ruin it for you. It was super special being with a person who had never done it before and was experiencing everything with you for the first time.
Fuck I love that game.
Glitchesarecool
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I give shit like, a month before I talk freely about the "spoilers". And people can suck my dick if they get upset about that; if you really cared, you'd be super on top of it.
On Vinnyvania, Austin mentioned doing some kind of spoilercast for Her Story. Would definitely love to hear that, especially regarding which of them falls into
They'd also made mention of the Powerbombcast on the podcast this week. Jeff alluded to doing something new with it. I just want my wrassle talk to return.
Team Twins and Team Multiple Personality.
They'd also made mention of the Powerbombcast on the podcast this week. Jeff alluded to doing something new with it. I just want my wrassle talk to return.
nckillthegrimace
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Personally, I've never forgiven Joss Whedon for ripping off Outlaw Star with Firefly's pilot. It's like how every story I had to write in middle school was something from Toonami with the names changed. Except he got paid for it and a huge cult following.
I don't really agree with that. 6 months after recent relevant activity for me.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Doing that in a game's OT would be pretty damn uncool honestly.
The Dear Leader
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This statement isn't on cleek.
I tried watching Firefly earlier this year and gave up, I couldn't stand seeing that asshole on screen.
Ibleedbolts
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That was because Silent Hill came out a week before they recorded that podcast and The Fall had been out for 7 months.
Glitchesarecool
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considering I tend to stay away from OTs, this isn't a problem.
I'd probably forget about the thing by that point, unless it really left a mark.
WHAT IS THAT WORD
I did appreciate the irony of the episode where Jayne tricked a bunch of naive mud farmers into thinking he was some sort of important social figure when actually he was a criminal and a fraud.
nckillthegrimace
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Weird questions: Does anyone remember the audio broadcast where Dan talks shit about the Mall of America? I need this because...
I need to fully explain the lunacy of that place to everyone who took Dan's "it's just a dumb mall" at face value. No, Dan. You don't get it. No one gets it.
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Well that makes sense.
I need to fully explain the lunacy of that place to everyone who took Dan's "it's just a dumb mall" at face value. No, Dan. You don't get it. No one gets it.
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Well that makes sense.
at least then you won't be a terrible person and ruin it for other people >_>
Glitchesarecool
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Are spoilers really that big a deal to people? I guess we sorta had this discussion earlier but I wasn't in on it, but like... Does it really "ruin" something for a person, dissuading them from going to that thing? I've never had that experience, it always ends up being a "meh" response for me, and I usually end up seeing the thing anyway.
Twin Tails
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spoilers are terrible and if you deliberately go out and spoil things for people you are a terrible person
surprise is an experience you get once. one time. one time only. it's unique. it's not the be all and end all but it's a thing i happen to like getting.
don't spoil things please
surprise is an experience you get once. one time. one time only. it's unique. it's not the be all and end all but it's a thing i happen to like getting.
don't spoil things please
Glitchesarecool
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Where was intentional spoiling at all suggested?
Jeevesmeister
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The "100% ending" of Arkham Knight is really dumb and a complete waste of your time. Don't even bother with it.
i get that talking around spoilers is inhibitive to discussion. i get it. people can have a reasonable idea of what's reasonable to spoil in general discussions and they're impossible to spoil in detailed story discussion. i wouldn't go to a story analysis thread without expecting spoilers. i also doubt that brad's spoiler thing is that bad, and i kind of also don't care about arkham knight so i'll listen regardless.
but please, don't spoil things if you can help it
thanks
for the purposes of this statement negligence = intent. checkmate sir
/edit negligence amounting to recklessness even moreso
but please, don't spoil things if you can help it
thanks
for the purposes of this statement negligence = intent. checkmate sir
/edit negligence amounting to recklessness even moreso
Yes? You can't dictate how important surprise is for someone. You may not care but others do.
If someone spoiled 999 for me I would fucking flip my shit, and I generally don't care much for spoilers.
CoolBatteryCharge
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Depends on what it is. There are many things I've been spoiled on without it affecting my experience too much, but there are also many things I enjoyed significantly less or even didn't bother experiencing at all because spoilers ruined the build to those moments. There are games and movies I could not understand the "greatness" of because I could no longer have the emotional investment built from first impression surprises. It could go either way, but in general I'd rather not risk it at all.
omg I'm so glad I got through those games years later without knowing a thing. I cannot express enough gratitude for Patrick hyping up that series properly without spoilers.
Glitchesarecool
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Ah.
I guess I've gotten into one too many "Snape kills Dumbledore" moments with people getting angry at me for talking about that moment (even within the last year) that it's soured me on caring. It's fucking impossible to judge people's spoiler limits.
Glitchesarecool
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Is there a largely agreed upon spoiler time to keep in mind? Guess if a month is too short for people, I should change over to whatever is appropriate.
it is impossible to judge accurately within all times, especially when some spoilers become absolutely saturated in pop culture - I Am Your Father, Rosebud, Dumbledore etc - and it becomes more complex when sequels and stuff build heavily and begin to assume you already know the spoilers (Star Wars, HP among them) - but if you adhere to the 'don't be a dick' rule you're generally in the clear
if you're in real life, check first ("are you up to... where are you in the story...?"). on gaf, use spoiler tags - it's not that much of an inconvenience. srsly
if you're in real life, check first ("are you up to... where are you in the story...?"). on gaf, use spoiler tags - it's not that much of an inconvenience. srsly
i read some stuff and i'm interested to see how it's executed and embedded in mechanics
not everyone consumes games on a surface level
@jintor & co.: by and large, we're all still mindful and tolerant of spoiler-conscious people, so you should, in turn, perhaps at least consider a different perspective from your own, even if it may not involve putting out a figurative threat of violence to someone for talking about what happens in a lousy vn, but instead finding the kind of aesthetic perception that is at odds with your own a tiny bit plain and short-sighted in a completely non-aggressive or imposing way. just a thought.
Damn, I feel like stabbing someone right now!
nckillthegrimace
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daydream scoffs at base concepts like "narrative"
clearly all games should be a series of glorified metronomes
I've got your back daydream. #TeamBat
#TeamBat don't give a fuck about how many knifes you have.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean, look at this way daydream. not spoiling something is not going to affect the anti-spoilists and spoilists too much. Spoiling something, however, is going to affect one group pretty heavily.
in the confines of 'games consist of a series of newly-experienced, hence surprising moments that are mostly story-, sometimes gameplay-related in nature and the player gets enjoyment out of witnessing those in the moment, so to speak', then yeah, i can see how you got to that conclusion
hm, yeah, i find narratology to be one of the most interesting subjects across the board, but clearly you know and understand me better lol
Okay, but I get two knives. That's only fair.
just rhythm games and batman combat
tbh beyond that; I think even mechanics can be spoilers in some contexts, but it's not anything I think worth really pushing to conceal (besides, they're usually the most interesting parts to talk about)
it's why outside of multiplayer games I usually don't venture into OTs until I've 'finished' a game, let alone spoiler threads. easier to avoid them entirely than to count on others to not talk about them (especially in a messageboard specifically for talking about things...)
I don't find common sense courtesy regarding spoilers a problem honestly. It's just I think there has been some creep on what is considered a spoiler.
i can't tell if this is satire, whippy
in case it isn't - this isn't actually about the act of spoiling something but the larger discussion behind it. like i said earlier, we generally abide by 'no spoiler' rules either way, and that's fine. the concept of a spoiler is tenuous at best but nobody's gonna dispute its practical value. if only for the throats that are saved in the process.
nckillthegrimace
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I can envision a scenario where I wouldn't want to know the full extent of a game's mechanics, so I don't think spoilers should be framed as merely protecting the sanctity of a story.
the only narrative that matters is the inexorable march of time
The Gerstmann connection.
you rip out one throat...
yeah, that's what i meant by "sometimes gameplay-related" (i wrote 'mechanics' initially but then decided to keep it more broad)
anyway, videogames
they're pretty aight
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
OK, now I'm confused about what we were even arguing about.
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