Almost everyone is still in that honeymoon phase and to say anything negative about it means you must not like the game.
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Almost everyone is still in that honeymoon phase and to say anything negative about it means you must not like the game.
Their job is to talk about games and highlight what they like and dislike about them. Zelda has some bold game design choices that are bound to be received differently by different people.
3/3 was an inside job
Like what?
I don't think that at all. There has been plenty of discussion of the flaws of the game. The UI can be bad and clunky, the performance is bad, the resolution is bad, the VO is horrible, the dungeons are take it or leave it, and there's a bunch of things around cooking and inventory management that could be streamlined. All of those are valid criticisms for why someone wouldn't enjoy it, but it's also possible that a lot of people (including me) that acknowledge those flaws but like the rest of the game so much that those aren't as big a problem
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I thought the dungeons are pretty good actually.
I've only done one, I need to explore it more. But I conceptually liked the dungeon
Zora/Elephant
That's just the feeling I get when criticism of the criticism gets brought up. Like anything more than a short blurb is too much. And not everyone is like that, but I think most people are still in that honeymoon phase and I'll be interested in how the same people view BotW in six months to a year from now.
I'm not seeing a turnaround like with Uncharted 4 or Fallout 4 happening. The game is that good. Its flaws are little annoyances. Calling weapon degradation a flaw for instance is disingenuous. It's an integral part of the game. If one doesn't like it that's one thing, but that isn't a flaw.
Anyone else actually like the decision making process that comes along with inventory management, durability, and encumbrance mechanics? I always thought it was an important contrast to the action of games, but maybe I played too many crpgs growing up. When did the turn against it happen? Oblivion? Or was it something people always disliked?
Sleeping Lesson
Member
I agree.
Frame drops, that is a flaw, but there really isn't much to be said about it.
bemusedchunk
Banned
Yeah, well look, rabid Zelda fans are crazy. Crazier even than that infamous Uncharted 3 reviews thread post. And it's also Zelda, kind of a sacred cow as far as series go. Like you look at Zelda, and not only does it have top tier games, but for a while it was the franchise for innovation. Zelda 1 was huge for open world games, Link to the Past was a perfection of 2D Zelda, and Ocarina of Time revolutionized 3D movement and controls on a console. And the franchise hasn't really hit a win like that in a while, so BotW comes along and shakes up not only the Zelda formula, but the entire open world genre to a degree, and people are going to be over the moon for it. But even ignoring that, it really is a fantastic game, and feels like an open world game designed for people who don't like open world games. So I'll agree that even in the press the flaws might be overlooked, and there are certain sections of people that will attack any negative comment. But those people aren't really worth talking to anyway. I think there's been a good amount of discussion about the flaws it has, and people recognize them. But I don't think a big backlash is coming for it. People might cool a little on it, and people will come to it for the first time 6 months later and maybe be disappointed after all the hype, but I don't see a turn on the game coming
I don't usually like it, but I do like the design in Zelda. They integrated it so well that if you removed the durability and encumbrance with weapons, the game would have to be vastly different
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Excuse me
I dont know if you heard, but Zelda:BotW is the first time open world has been accomplished.
bemusedchunk
Banned
The main mission select stuff from MGSV is actually one of the systems I wish most open world games would use. Keep the open world option there for exploration purposes, but let you just go to a mission directly if you want to do the story quest. I get so distracted by exploration that it takes 100+ hours before I get to what actual story is there that I'm ready to just put the game down.
Militaires Sans Frontières
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Military Sons Fronty Ares
Can someone please tell him that it rhymes??
Incandenza
Banned
👀 Jeff has played Persona 5 👀
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Lah En-font terrib
I hope Atlus hooked them up for that sweet ER.
Don't remind me please.
Everything about this post is correct.
On the Rorie stream yesterday Jason basically confirmed there will be an ER..
Only really care if it's Jeff and vinny
AuthenticM
Member
No. Rorie got a chat question about P5 coverage and Jason did his coy/idontknow routine he does all the time. I wouldn't read into it.
No. He said Rorie read a question from chat asking about Persona 5 QL, and Jason just goes "I don't know shit, I'm not saying shit"
Zaph got the gist of it. Jason was teasing. Let's just shut that rumour down right now.
Personally I can't imagine they'd do a P5 ER. It was a huge deal when they announced the Shenmue ER. West clearly don't have the manpower to do an ER, and even if they did, Jeff doesn't seem like the kind of person who would go for that kind of nostalgia play.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I can't believe you guys actually thought this could be true
Askherserenity
Member
GOTY discussions should be great this year!
I doubt Zelda even makes it in the top 3. They've spent so much more time talking about the same 2 things Jeff dislikes about it for most of the podcasts they've talked about it.
Feels weird, like they have to only talk about their negatives with the game just because it's getting too much praise elsewhere.
I really hope Persona 5 blows everyone away. There's no way it doesn't get GOTY if that happens.
I doubt Zelda even makes it in the top 3. They've spent so much more time talking about the same 2 things Jeff dislikes about it for most of the podcasts they've talked about it.
Feels weird, like they have to only talk about their negatives with the game just because it's getting too much praise elsewhere.
I really hope Persona 5 blows everyone away. There's no way it doesn't get GOTY if that happens.
bemusedchunk
Banned
is Brad really leaving for IGN?
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I have bad news for you.
Nobody is going to play more than 3 hours of Persona 5. Everybody will always say "I need to play more of that game".
But it won't happen.
I'm just happy I love Zelda again.
Can't spell leavign without ign
Askherserenity
Member
I know. I'm in denial.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
They... haven't though? Like you have to be really selective to not hear about the various things brad, dan, vinny and other jeff gush about the things they love. And I mean really selective.
Askherserenity
Member
Weird, maybe I missed a podcast? and I don't want to hear them gush about it. Just wanted to hear them talk about the game/systems a bit more.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean it's pretty much the last 2 beastcasts and last bombcast.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Watch Hitman repeat as GOTY haha.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
This might be a beary big spoiler for Zelda, so don't click if you don't want to know but...
WHY DID NOBODY TELL ME YOU CAN RIDE A FUCKING BEAR