Basileus777
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Well Jeff's support for it did remind me of how Ryan backed Skyrim. It's actually worse now that Jeff is back to ranting about how bad Destiny is in podcasts and quick looks. Or maybe Warframe is just a GOTY candidate.
Giant Bomb GOTY 2014 - Destiny Has Brought Us Here
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Well Jeff's support for it did remind me of how Ryan backed Skyrim. It's actually worse now that Jeff is back to ranting about how bad Destiny is in podcasts and quick looks. Or maybe Warframe is just a GOTY candidate.
Jazzpunk comparison seems a bit wrong to me. The worst vibe I got from some of the crew was that they were indifferent to it with the others liking it. This is far different to the outright dislike that the majority of the crew has towards Destiny. Also Jeff dislikes Destiny too, he even said he was tempted to put the game in the top 10 to prove the year was bad.
AngryPuppy
Banned
No one but Brad thought it was a top 10 game. Jeff and Vinny knew he would get really heated if they didn't throw him a bone, so they pussied out and did it. Everyone else hated or disliked it.
Ninja Scooter
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The problem was that lots of people were indifferent to lots of things. It's probably why you shouldn't get so hung up on the 1-10. You have games making that list that not everyone (the majority in some cases) didn't even play. It's not an exact science they are using to come up with the list here.
Then just like Jeff said, if they felt that strongly about it they should have said so. But they didn't, probably because its not that serious. Their goal though isn't to come up with a perfect list, as that would be impossible. Right from the start you have a group of people who all didn't even play all of the games being discussed. People seem to be taking the top 10 list way more seriously than the people who put it together. It's not that serious.
Drew had it in his top 10 games, sooooo...
Yea and honestly...Destiny is way better than Jazzpunk. Jazzpunk should have been in that short time category.
Ein Bear
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The weirdest part of the podcasts to me was Alex starting off saying he really liked Mario Kart 8, only to spend the rest of the show trying to throw it under a bus for any reason he could. There were a couple of times when people would be talking about two entirely different games, and he'd chip in with "Just so you know, I won't argue for Mario Kart". Was very strange.
skLaFarebear
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A lot of them were throwing games they liked under the bus, that's kinda what you have to choose and discuss a couple of games out of dozens making the top list. Not everything you liked was gonna make it, so you have to throw games under the bus to get games you thought were better on there, even if you did like that other game.
Basileus777
Member
I like Alex, but a strong will and a willingness to face down opposition is not something I'd attribute to him.
Basileus777
Member
Because GB didn't exist in 2006?
Whoa!
I am sure it did, infact I remember Brad himself doing a quicklook on it and talking about it in the podcast!
Basileus777
Member
That was FF13!
The more I think about it, the more weird it is that Wolfenstein didn't make this list. For several weeks there with how everyone talked about I expected it to be a GOTY contender. They all seemed to love it. Then the debates came around and everyone except Drew was all of a sudden meh on it. I think they could have benefited from playing some Wolf again before the recordings.
Yup. That's why I was saying their goty process is broken.
It's not broken it's just that their real list doesn't start until #5 usually. The bottom half is usually constructed to appease certain people.
Brad's arguments for Destiny were basically: "Destiny is like drugs and I like these drugs look I've taken these drugs so many times it's Top 10 and I'm telling you these drugs get really interesting after you've taken them for 50h". But in the end it's about what 10 games one should've played in 2014 and Destiny is one of those games. (I sold it after ~50h Beta included.)
Mario Kart should be higher and not having Donkey Kong on there is a crime against humanity. But it's just a stupid list so who cares. We have our own stupid list over here anyway.
Mario Kart should be higher and not having Donkey Kong on there is a crime against humanity. But it's just a stupid list so who cares. We have our own stupid list over here anyway.
Who cares what his intent was? It was presented and sold as a packaged, single game.
Might as well turn around and say, "Destiny is the first game in a multi-game franchise, so ignore the fact that it has about half the content you would expect in a AAA game."
sammyCYBORG
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Unlike Destiny, Syndicate was actually a really good game.
lol, I'm actually pretty sure they recorded them all in one go / one day.
Brad likes a game and it gets in the top ten games of the year because he felt strongly about it.
Why are people raising eyebrows? Brad knows it's not a perfect game, hell, he probably knows it's not a "good" game, but he loved playing it, and that's all that matters. I've loved some really "shitty" games in the past, and I'd fight for them 'till the end.
The second best game of the year wasn't even played by half the staff, for God's sake. CoD at number four, when only Jeff really liked it and Brad and a few others thought it was okay? It's a GOTY list with a ton of different opinions and personalities. That's how these things go.
No issues, no qualms, fight your fights, Brad.
Why are people raising eyebrows? Brad knows it's not a perfect game, hell, he probably knows it's not a "good" game, but he loved playing it, and that's all that matters. I've loved some really "shitty" games in the past, and I'd fight for them 'till the end.
The second best game of the year wasn't even played by half the staff, for God's sake. CoD at number four, when only Jeff really liked it and Brad and a few others thought it was okay? It's a GOTY list with a ton of different opinions and personalities. That's how these things go.
No issues, no qualms, fight your fights, Brad.
Wolfenstein didn't get cut for Destiny. There would have been room for Wolfenstein had people not railroaded stuff like Mario Kart, Jazzpunk, and CoD:AW onto the list.
Nobody felt strongly enough about Wolfenstein to stand up for it, for whatever reason. By the time Destiny came up most people had already played their "I'm not going to rest until this game makes the list" trump card in favor of a different title.
nobodyshero
Banned
The Destiny thing is what it is, I'm over it. I personally have like 50 hours in the game, so while I don't personally think it's one of the best, I can't argue Brad's stance that it's just fun.
I haven't played Jazzpunk, but from what I've seen of it, if that can hang on the Top 10, then so can Destiny.
I haven't played Jazzpunk, but from what I've seen of it, if that can hang on the Top 10, then so can Destiny.
nobodyshero
Banned
The funny part is all the GB crew are probably watching this happen and shaking their head. It's a little sad that we care more than they do about a silly list lol.
Here's a question for you all: where, in all of their GOTY podcasts or personal top 10 lists, was Lords of the Fallen? That game might just be the most overlooked game of last year's GOTY debates! I thought Vinny and Brad liked it quite a bit, no?
To be clear, I haven't played it myself but I did find its absence quite surprising after watching them being quite positive about it during podcasts and the Quick Look. Their only real "complaint" was its similarity to Dark Souls if I remember correctly.
On that note, are there any other big releases that none of them brought up despite them not disliking it? Or other games like Wolfenstein they should have fought harder for to get on the top 10 perhaps (come on Drew, step up!)?
Overall I was very entertained by this year's deliberations, as always in fact. The fact that I listened to them in an environment as far removed from video games as possible (i.e. in an old hotel in Switzerland where snow, board games and other people were my entertainment) helped as well to make them feel special. They remain a highlight for me each Christmas and I will surely miss Patrick as one of the most vocal participants.
To be clear, I haven't played it myself but I did find its absence quite surprising after watching them being quite positive about it during podcasts and the Quick Look. Their only real "complaint" was its similarity to Dark Souls if I remember correctly.
On that note, are there any other big releases that none of them brought up despite them not disliking it? Or other games like Wolfenstein they should have fought harder for to get on the top 10 perhaps (come on Drew, step up!)?
Overall I was very entertained by this year's deliberations, as always in fact. The fact that I listened to them in an environment as far removed from video games as possible (i.e. in an old hotel in Switzerland where snow, board games and other people were my entertainment) helped as well to make them feel special. They remain a highlight for me each Christmas and I will surely miss Patrick as one of the most vocal participants.
Fallout-NL
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Sorry to revive this thread, but I'm just now coming around to listening to day 5 of the deliberations and I wanted to voice my disappointment with the crew cutting Dark Souls 2 from the list of ten. Wasn't expecting it to make GOTY or whatever, but man, even though it's obviously not as good as DkS1, it's still much better than most of the other games on that list. Seems they made the mistake of comparing it to its predecessor, not the other games on that list.
Fucking Destiny, give me a break... How the hell you cut Dark Souls 2 and keep that copy/paste fest on the damn list is beyond me.
Fucking Destiny, give me a break... How the hell you cut Dark Souls 2 and keep that copy/paste fest on the damn list is beyond me.
They agreed that they preferred Destiny to Dark Souls 2.
It's their list, not yours.
Pretty sure someone at the table did end up correcting him and making a comment about more missions just being more Deploy and Protect the Dinklage quests.
nobodyshero
Banned
Considering the amount of fanfare that DS2 got from the GB crew, I was impressed the conversation around it even lasted as long as it did. That game had almost zero impact on them
Fallout-NL
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Show us your list?
Fallout-NL
Member
Very quickly then (I should be working). I didn't like (or have time to play enough) to come up with a full list of ten, but here's what I got:
Game of the year: Dark Souls 2
Runners-up in no particular order:
Wasteland 2
Grand Theft Auto 5 (yes, a remaster, had a surprising amount of fun with the online component. It's also the most beautiful game I've ever played.)
Kentucky Route Zero (Act 3 was released this year, does that count?)
Shadow of Mordor (the game AC wishes it could be)
Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls (still not as good as Diablo 2, but it scratches that itch)
Spintires
Insurgency (best shooter I've played since Bad Company 2 and Counter-Strike)
Nidhogg
Pjsprojects
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This.
