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[Death Metalist]

It still comes down to fixing the cert process for physical games. I understand that you want the game to function when you put the disc in and do some basic things, but the amount of lead time you have to have to get your game submitted and approved through cert to make a release date is insane. I know it's been posted before in this very thread, but this post by Rami does a good job in why the process is fucked and will continue to be until properly addressed.

Meaning it probably will never be.

Unless you are a developer you can't say that definitively and the fidelity of these AAA games are several times higher than the games you mentioned.

I'm not and these AAA games are definitely way more complicated and complex, however there is something to be said when you're installing 50GBs worth of game ontop of a 5-10GB patch. In the case of Dead Rising 3 & 4 you're installing a day one patch that exceeds 10GB. In the case of Halo: The Masterchief Collection, they had you installing the entire MP portion of the games which was a day one 20GB patch lol. My point is that something needs to be changed or get better. It has to. Games are only going to get more complicated and complex. So, you're telling me that I should expect a day one 30-50GB patch 5-10 years in the future? Because the internet is not going to get better, hell we got places in the world that either don't have internet or the internet is just really poor in that area. The area would need an entire renovation of sorts to have a better internet infrastructure.

These day one patches are often time absurd and it's funny when it became news that "Titanfall 2 has a fucking small patch" CONGRATS! Wow, what an achievement. In all honesty, that should be the standard because it feels like someone is exploiting this process whether it's from the developer or publisher side, I'm not saying it is, I'm saying it FEELS LIKE IT. I don't know, honestly. Sometimes it reads to me like "It's fine, we'll finish that game in post, no worries let's just fucking release it now and give thanks to the almighty internet" and then you get a fucking mess at the end with the developer having to make promises, schedule more specific patches and a whole slew of pissed off people wondering if the day one patch ever did anything.

 

[CosmicQueso]

Sounds like some of y'all need to start your own video game websites in order to share your hot takes on DOOM.

 

[Smurfinator]

I guess it's just popular to hate on popular things. DOOM never got a fair shake. Before it came out no one gave it a chance (not even I). After it came out there was a short honeymoon period where people were experiencing it for the first time. And now we're at a point where we don't think it should win GOTY because it's too "safe".

What the fuck???? How can a game that is considered "most surprising game" be considered too safe for GOTY????? Either it has a good pedigree, and was expected to do well and win GOTY and therefore be a safe choice OR it came out of nowhere and wowed everyone and is therefore NOT the safe choice. You have to pick one.

The final point I'll make is this: Just because a game might be the safe choice that does not mean its not the right choice.

Personally, I loved DOOM and I never thought I would. It surprised me in every way (didnt play the multiplayer). It is a fantastic game and while I think Ori def edition and Inside were the best games this year, DOOM is deserving of the title on it's own rights.

 

[Curufinwe]

The Doom circle jerk has gotten old by the end of day 2. Is it a great game? Yes. Does it look great? Yes. However it doesn't belong in half the discussions it's been in.

Harsh, but fair.

 

[LiK]

That's GB GOTY for you. If they love something collectively, it'll dominate the discussion no matter what.

 

[Smurfinator]

Sounds like some of y'all need to start your own video game websites in order to share your hot takes on DOOM.

I don't really understand. Isn't the whole point of these forums to share our opinions on games? Yes, a lot of people love DOOM. That is OKAY. There are popular games that other people love that I'll never understand why like overwatch, WoW, Dishonored. But I don't go around pretending that other people are crazy and I'm not. People like what they like.

 

[Architechnophile]

Duskers got looked over almost as badly.

got u fam

 

[killroy87]

The amount of butthurt here because of the Doom love is hilarious. The site is run mainly by people who were the exact age for the original Doom to be at peak influence. I've played and enjoyed Doom, but I'm a bit too young to remember it's full impact. But for the crew, Doom was clearly a big part of their gaming past, so this new one being as good as it is will obviously make a huge impact. And that's totally cool, because that's their opinions based on their experiences. If any of you want Hitman, or Overwatch, or Titanfall to be number one, write your own top ten list and put those games at number one.

It doesn't take a scholar to figure out why these guys like Doom so much.

 

[Zornack]

Doom is a better game than you'll ever be.

 

[tuxfool]

It doesn't take a scholar to figure out why these guys like Doom so much.

Liking DOOM isn't an excuse for mis-attributing it to the wrong categories. It is my favourite game of the year, but I think it is a bit too much.

 

[LiK]

I'm disappointed there hasn't been any anncouncements for Doom story DLC. Really don't give a fuck about the MP at all.

 

[tuxfool]

I'm disappointed there hasn't been any anncouncements for Doom story DLC. Really don't give a fuck about the MP at all.

I guess Bethesdasoft didn't think it was a game that merited DLC of that vein. Danny mentioned that when he went there people were working on MP content. I think they'll put all their efforts towards DOOM2.

 

[ShutterMunster]

I can't stress enough how much I love these Giant Bomb GOTY discussions. I almost never agree with them on the Best Looking category but that's the joy of it. It makes you wish you were in the room to debate with the guys.

 

[killroy87]

Liking DOOM isn't an excuse for mis-attributing it to the wrong categories. It is my favourite game of the year, but I think it is a bit too much.

You're telling them they're wrong for having opinions, which makes literally zero sense.

You could walk up to any single person on the GB Crew and try to argue schematics and proper definitions of awards categories, and you'd be met with indifference or laughter by every single one of them.

Sometimes we take this process much more seriously than they do, which is a bit hilarious.

 

[Kill3r7]

The amount of butthurt here because of the Doom love is hilarious. The site is run mainly by people who were the exact age for the original Doom to be at peak influence. I've played and enjoyed Doom, but I'm a bit too young to remember it's full impact. But for the crew, Doom was clearly a big part of their gaming past, so this new one being as good as it is will obviously make a huge impact. And that's totally cool, because that's their opinions based on their experiences. If any of you want Hitman, or Overwatch, or Titanfall to be number one, write your own top ten list and put those games at number one.

It doesn't take a scholar to figure out why these guys like Doom so much.

Ditto. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, DOOM was very much a time and place game. It is the type of game whose time has passed, or so we thought. Yet id somehow managed to make it relevant today. It is the equivalent of SE being able to make a FF game that is as great as your favorite SNES/PS1 FF, that is what id accomplished. I wish 343i could find the same kind of magic with Halo SP.

 

[SomberOwl]

I hope they all have some music queued up for Best Music. I wonder what even will be the top 3 this year for them. The only soundtrack that stands out to me this year is Titanfall. I guess DOOM to.

Actually DOOM will probably win.

Anyway Best Music is usually a fun category. I hope it's today.

 

[funking giblet]

Doom deserves it, and other games have been overshadowing it in other GOTY competitions. Let Doom have this one.

 

[Twin Tails]

i hope doom wins all the categories today

 

[Zornack]

Best moment or sequence: playing Doom.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

I can't believe Doom won Most Disappointing because it was "almost too good".

 

[Death Metalist]

i hope doom wins all the categories today

 

[styl3s]

Doom is overrated let's get some Overwatch wins today.

Edit-

Before people castrate me i don't think Doom is bad game i just don't think it's something fucking mind boggling good. It's ok, it's fun. There are better shooters out there IMO. I found Overwatch and Battlefield to be way, way more fun this year and the single player of Doom was nothing to write home to and like another poster said the circle jerking of Doom on these podcast is fucking nauseating.

 

[LiK]

GB should do genre awards.

Best RPG: Doom
Best adventure game: Doom
Best music game: Doom
Best fighting game: Doom
Best driving game: Doom

 

[Smurfinator]

Doom deserves it, and other games have been overshadowing it in other GOTY competitions. Let Doom have this one.

Yup.

 

[Joeku]

I hope they all have some music queued up for Best Music. I wonder what even will be the top 3 this year for them. The only soundtrack that stands out to me this year is Titanfall. I guess DOOM to.

Actually DOOM will probably win.

Anyway Best Music is usually a fun category. I hope it's today.

Furi? I don't think they played that much of it though. Abzu? No Man's Sky? Maybe The Last Guardian?

Probably gonna be Doom, tho. And this would be a category it deserves, too.

 

[daveo42]

i hope doom wins all the categories today

I hope it wins every slot in every category.

GB should do genre awards.

Best RPG: Doom
Best adventure game: Doom
Best music game: Doom
Best fighting game: Doom
Best driving game: Doom

Best Open World Game: Doom
Best Flight Sim: Doom
Best Anime Game: Doom
Best Doom Game: Doom

 

[Zornack]

I hope Doom Dooms Doom in today's Doom.

 

[Brashnir]

Furi? I don't think they played that much of it though. Abzu? No Man's Sky? Maybe The Last Guardian?

Probably gonna be Doom, tho. And this would be a category it deserves, too.

Dan is gonna fight for Stardew, but it won't end up making the list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7sDUAALYSM

 

[Felix Lighter]

Ha, I preferred Hitman and Overwatch to Doom but even I want to see Doom take GOTY and any category it's up for. More of them obviously loved it more than the other games on the list. People that want to see a sudden surprise GOTY that goes against their own personal top 10s because that's their pick are weird.

 

[Tubobutts]

I hope they play lots of short snippets of out of context songs for the best music award.

 

[Glass Shark]

That's GB GOTY for you. If they love something collectively, it'll dominate the discussion no matter what.

That's kinda the whole point, though... if a majority of them really loved something then it makes sense for it to top the list. If only one or two people loved something it's going to be hard to justify putting it at #1.

As much as it looks like Doom has it locked down, I think Hitman really is a wildcard in all of this. At worst I think it's going to be #2, but I honestly think it could clinch #1 if the stars align in the right way, despite what any math says.

Dan is gonna fight for Stardew, but it won't end up making the list.

Stardew Valley will hold the Austin Walker Memorial #10 Spot

 

[oti]

That's kinda the whole point, though... if a majority of them really loved something then it makes sense for it to top the list. If only one or two people loved something it's going to be hard to justify putting it at #1.

As much as it looks like Doom has it locked down, I think Hitman really is a wildcard in all of this. At worst I think it's going to be #2, but I honestly think it could clinch #1 if the stars align in the right way, despite what any math says.

Jeff really is the only hope here. If he comes to his senses good will prevail. If not Satan aka Brad will win.

 

[LiK]

That's kinda the whole point, though... if a majority of them really loved something then it makes sense for it to top the list. If only one or two people loved something it's going to be hard to justify putting it at #1.

As much as it looks like Doom has it locked down, I think Hitman really is a wildcard in all of this. At worst I think it's going to be #2, but I honestly think it could clinch #1 if the stars align in the right way, despite what any math says.

That's part of the fun. Even though Doom seems like a lock everyone thought Saints Row 3 would be GOTY and then Brad filibustered until Ryan gave up and let Skyrim win. What an upset.

 

[Glass Shark]

Jeff really is the only hope here. If he comes to his senses good will prevail. If not Satan aka Brad will win.

To be honest I don't really care, I think it's pretty certain that Doom, Hitman, and Overwatch will be the top 3 in some position or another, which for me is perfect since it's the exact same as my own list. All three are excellent games in very different ways, and they all deserve recognition.

That's part of the fun. Even though Doom seems like a lock everyone thought Saints Row 3 would be GOTY and then Brad filibustered until Ryan gave up and let Skyrim win. What an upset.

Yeah, even though it seems like Doom has victory in its grasp, I'm still really going to enjoy the next two days of deliberations and seeing how things play out. Any other site's GOTY, I would just read the top 10 list and move on. But I love hearing the duders discuss this stuff, at times I wish these deliberations were double the length they are now. There's something to be said for that.

Best gaming site on the web.

 

[Felix Lighter]

I don't think Overwatch makes top 3 because I think Jeff will push an argument against Doom as the number 1 spot, an argument he expects to lose, for a compromise to get Titanfall 2 in the top 3 and with Brad's support knock Overwatch down. He could also knock out Hitman with that tactic but I think Overwatch will be the one that fails.

 

[SmiteOfHand]

That's GB GOTY for you. If they love something collectively, it'll dominate the discussion no matter what.

And if they dislike, or are indifferent, to something popular they are jaded old-asses. You can't get a break in this town.

 

[Brashnir]

Stardew Valley will hold the Austin Walker Memorial #10 Spot

I meant for best music. I think he'll manage to get it into the top 10.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

GiantDoom.com

Giant Doomcast.

 

[RecRoulette]

I hope Jeff gets to talk about Infinite Warfare for best moment, I don't think any of those would probably break top 3, but man that game has some great moments. That campaign is my favorite one since Modern Warfare 2.

Guesses for what thier moments will be in other games

Doom:

Spoiler

The intro

Titanfall 2:

Spoiler

Guessing time travel but hoping it's the SEER kit.

The Witness:

Spoiler

First +1

Hitman:

Spoiler

No fucking idea.

 

[kiguel182]

Hitman will be third after Titanfall and Doom, I'm calling it. Maybe fourth with Overwatch being third.

Also, I would be surprised if Dan can argue Stardew into the top 10 given his arguments are "I really like it". I mean, he doesn't have to be Austin but for a game that he really likes he doesn't have much to say about it.

 

[killroy87]

Hitman for best moment will definitely be Yoga.

 

[kiguel182]

Hitman best moment is Brad killing Busey.

 

[Felix Lighter]

Vinny made best moment the week they were deliberating. Sheik ax murderer.

 

[LiK]

Hitman best moment is Brad killing Busey.

I still need to watch that. Only started watching the Paris videos last night. The videos are so much more fun once I played through the levels already knowing what is possible and seeing Brad and Dan fuck it up so hard.

 

[Auxiliary Bro]

Geez what's with all the doom and gloom in this thread?

omg

 

[Brashnir]

Hitman will be third after Titanfall and Doom, I'm calling it. Maybe fourth with Overwatch being third.

Also, I would be surprised if Dan can argue Stardew into the top 10 given his arguments are "I really like it". I mean, he doesn't have to be Austin but for a game that he really likes he doesn't have much to say about it.

well, that's partially because there's really not a whole lot to the game. You have several options of things to do each day, but it hardly matters which you pick, since they all result in basically the same amount of progress.

The game could have been titled Stardew Valley: Do Whatevs And Win.

That said, I did find it charming and spent a lot of time playing it.

 

[kiguel182]

I still need to watch that. Only started watching the Paris videos last night. The videos are so much more fun once I played through the levels already knowing what is possible and seeing Brad and Dan fuck it up so hard.

Yeah, I totally did the opposite. But going back and watching Paris for the second time made me notice something in the AI behavior that allowed me to complete some challenges so that was cool. I need to rewatch Sapienza next.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I think this year will have more locks for the top ten than last year.

 

[TheGrue]

I'm okay with Doom getting the praise in various categories that it's gotten with the exception of Jeff and Brad saying it's more impressive looking than Uncharted 4 in Best-Looking Game and using an argument that could apply to both (which Drew brought up). I love me some Doom, but Uncharted 4 is just a marvel to look at.

 

[petethepanda]

Finally got back to Titanfall 2 last night and man is that thing just filled with potential Moments.