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[Hasney]

Sony's approach really didn't click with me. It just felt like an hour long trailer reel, and I'd prefer to just look at the good stuff on YouTube, while ignoring the garbage (Days Gone). With MS, I knew what they had coming in the next year, and found out why I should care.

Also, I need talking heads doing some stupid shit. How else do we get #WEED3

MS gave me a reason to care and then cancelled it.

And totally have those weird streams and celebrities as well, but if I'm up at 2am and drunkenly watching a press conference, I'd rather that be a show and have the talking later.

EDIT: Thinking about it, I wish the Splatoon and ARMS match livestreams were drunk celebrity oriented...

 

[LurkerPrime]

Jeff hates Brad ever since the tea bag incident.

One of the GOATs, for sure.

 

[Cptkrush]

I'm just glad the reaction to Sony's conference last year was hugely positive from average people that watched it. It's the style I want to see going forward from all of them if possible. Sure, the one previous was some big announcements, but still too many talking heads. Save that for PSX.

I honestly think it should be the other way around. E3 was supposed to be a trade show for professionals and investors. I don't mind when they pander to fans with things like sonys conference every once in a while, but I also like when they come out and talk about the what and why. With e3 being kind of public this year, this is all kinda moot, but I still want someone on stage explaining the game to me and why I should care about it

 

[Hasney]

Key word there is was. It stopped being that when they livestreamed it for public consumption.

I get what you mean, but if I'm watching, I don't care. I just want to be entertained.

 

[Jothel]

One of the GOATs, for sure.

Few things make me consistently laugh as much as when Jeff's voice goes high here

 

[The Dear Leader]

Don't know what you're talking about, there. There's Ranking of Fighters, the Old Games Show, the No Go Show, Blight Club, Project B.E.A.S.T., I Love Mondays, Spelunkin' with Scoops, and much much more. It's an embarrassment of riches.

Did you purposely name every dead series you could think of or was that unintentional lol?

 

[Volotaire]

Key word there is was. It stopped being that when they livestreamed it for public consumption.

I get what you mean, but if I'm watching, I don't care. I just want to be entertained.

There was a period, from when they started livestreaming around 2004 to 2007ish, when the Big 3 were still presenting sales and performance figures. But, that has completely disappeared.

 

[Bubble Metropolis]

Jeff hates Brad ever since the tea bag incident.

HE PUT IT ON THE FLOOR!

 

[kingocfs]

Jeff hates Brad ever since the tea bag incident.

Drew's tea strategy is still completely fucked.

 

[Liquid Shake]

One of the GOATs, for sure.

HE PUT IT ON THE FLOOR!

I love that clip. It never fails to cheer me up.

 

[formated4tv]

Jeff hates Brad ever since the tea bag incident.

From the second that Brad pulls the tea bag out of the cup, Jeff's eyes are locked on it trying to figure out what Brad's going to do with it.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Goddamn I think I really like arms.

Did not expect that at all.

 

[ArjanN]

I honestly think it should be the other way around. E3 was supposed to be a trade show for professionals and investors. I don't mind when they pander to fans with things like sonys conference every once in a while, but I also like when they come out and talk about the what and why. With e3 being kind of public this year, this is all kinda moot, but I still want someone on stage explaining the game to me and why I should care about it

IMO 90% of the stuff the talking heads say is either fluff or could just be put in a press release.

 

[Hasney]

Ooo, UPF has Pizza Tycoon in the thumbnail. PUMPED.

There was a period, from when they started livestreaming around 2004 to 2007ish, when the Big 3 were still presenting sales and performance figures. But, that has completely disappeared.

Yeah, they couldn't figure out what they wanted to be at that point. The 'just games but people explaining them' is probably the middle ground for pros and people watching, but I do think that because they have an opportunity to engage with their audience directly now, they should do that.

Goddamn I think I really like arms.

Did not expect that at all.

It's really, really fun. Might skip out of the testpunches going forward as I'm sold and I noww want that loot grind!

 

[oti]

I honestly think it should be the other way around. E3 was supposed to be a trade show for professionals and investors. I don't mind when they pander to fans with things like sonys conference every once in a while, but I also like when they come out and talk about the what and why. With e3 being kind of public this year, this is all kinda moot, but I still want someone on stage explaining the game to me and why I should care about it

You can get that in interviews, in Youtube videos, on twitter etc. E3 was born as a way to get mass media attention. You don't need the E3 for that anymore. And you REALLY don't need E3 if you want to hear people tell you why you should pre-order their game.

From a professional point of view E3 is dying. The press (as in the press that goes to E3 to write previews for readers etc.) isn't as important to the publishers as it once was. That's why more and more publishers bail out, that's why they're now transforming E3 into a fan event. Eventually E3 will be like gamescom. Fans will walk through the booths while the real business happens behind closed doors and the press works in the press area.

I really don't get why people want, out of all days in the year, to hear marketing during the E3 press conference. Look around you. There's marketing everywhere. You can #engage with Sony's marketing efforts every single day of the week. Why not have this spectacle that is E3 for gameplay and trailers.

 

[Rainmaker]

Idk i can see trailers anytime. I want to laugh and have fun at the expense of the marketing.

 

[demidar]

Goddamn I think I really like arms.

Did not expect that at all.

I always knew people would be sleeping on it, just like Splatoon.

 

[oti]

Idk i can see trailers anytime. I want to laugh and have fun at the expense of the marketing.

Yeah, I get that. But to me genuine "This game looks rad and we're all watching this trailer together video games are cool you guys"-fun is more valuable than "Ugh did he really just say that that's sooooo marketing you guys let me tweet out my snark"-fun.

 

[strafer]

god, I hate this sticky warmth...I have no pool to cool off in.

 

[Antiwhippy]

I mean part of the reason is that early videos is mostly people who don't know how to play it just walking around really slowly and struggling to hit people.

But what you really want to be doing is always be dashing. ALWAYS. BE. DASHING.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

god, I hate this sticky warmth...I have no pool to cool off in.

Some people pay good money to be covered in sticky warmth.

 

[Hasney]

god, I hate this sticky warmth...I have no pool to cool off in.

Yeah, I was out last night and cider was enough to cool me. But I didn't sleep until 4am because I was so hot. We just had a thunderstorm that thankfully cooled everything today.

 

[Rainmaker]

Yeah, I get that. But to me genuine "This game looks rad and we're all watching this trailer together video games are cool you guys"-fun is more valuable than "Ugh did he really just say that that's sooooo marketing you guys let me tweet out my snark"-fun.

In a perfect world yeah, but most of that Sony conference was games I personally did not think looked cool and it would probably be that way for most conferences every year if they followed that format. I can not imagine enjoying an Ubisoft conference done like that. I think I just like the mix.

There was a time where I thought I wanted what Sony did. That was "the dream E3 conference" format but seeing it I realized how much I would miss all the other stupid bullshit.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Also man, everyone is using min min in the test punch thread.

Spoiler

So am I.

 

[Hasney]

Also man, everyone is using min min in the test punch thread.

Spoiler

So am I.

One heavy one curver? That seemed to work so well for me.

 

[kambaybolongo]

Gotta say...I'm really not feeling Arms at all. The lobby system is whack and the fighting felt slow and clunky.

Love the theme song though.

 

[Hindl]

Also man, everyone is using min min in the test punch thread.

Spoiler

So am I.

Well she is the best design

 

[Antiwhippy]

One dragon one curver for me.

That dash kick she does is so good.

 

[pizzacat]

I'm using Lord DNA

He's too good

 

[Jintor]

counterpoint: the lobby system is amazing and the fighting is deliberate and you're gonna get jacked if you try and spam

 

[jaina]

The lobby is great, the random mode selection maybe not.
I want to play volley ball only.

But I guess the random modes in Standard Play are also in the main game, so nobody waits in an odd-numbered lobby.

 

[pizzacat]

The lobby system is okay but I want to be able to challenge people. I got paired against a 0 when I was at 60+ points

I was the leader in points in both tests and it happened 4 times.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Geez.

Jason looks like he needs a holiday.

 

[Backfoggen]

UPF with the friggen Pizza Tycoon deception. Almost was hopeful for interesting game choices.

 

[pizzacat]

Geez.

Jason looks like he needs a holiday.

Let me send him on an all expense paid trip to the shadow realm with my roasts on him because I couldn't hear the audio for 4 minutes or because upf doesn't fade to black

 

[kambaybolongo]

counterpoint: the lobby system is amazing and the fighting is deliberate and you're gonna get jacked if you try and spam

Why is it amazing? It makes me feel like I'm always waiting for other people to finish their matches. Getting matched into a lobby and having to wait for everyone else to finish their matches is not a great feeling.

As for the fighting, punches and movement just felt very slow compared to other fighting games or 3D fighters that I've played. Which would be totally fine if the actual fighting was still satisfying but I didn't find it to be.

Not trying to spam, just sharing my opinion.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Why is it amazing? It makes me feel like I'm always waiting for other people to finish their matches. Getting matched into a lobby and having to wait for everyone else to finish their matches is not a great feeling.

Have you ever used a lobby system in a fighting game?

Let me send him on an all expense paid trip to the shadow realm with my roasts on him because I couldn't hear the audio for 4 minutes or because upf doesn't fade to black

He'd probably enjoy that.

 

[pizzacat]

Pro play in 3D fighters are first to 3 for a match because of how fast it is to just die.

Make a mistake near a wall and you're dead

Here you can take your time because in reality there's no combos that are higher than 2 hits besides super and you can actually zone with the right equipment

 

[Piston Hyundai]

UPF with the friggen Pizza Tycoon deception. Almost was hopeful for interesting game choices.

That's what you get for being hopeful, sucker. You'll take your Overwatch and Strafe and you will like it.

 

[Jintor]

i meant spam as in spam punches in the game

the lobby system is great. i dunno what other lobby systems you've been playing but downtime is about 20 seconds or so in both testpunches i've been in so far, and in that time i load up the quick test and fool around with arm combos and then get chucked into a match. hopefully the full version will have ways to restrict by game type though.

yeah the punches and movement are slower than a capcom fighter etc. that's because arms is a different kind of game by the feel of it, a very deliberate, controlled game about footwork and recovery. it's a boxing game basically - we all made jokes about wii boxing's successor when it came out and hell, it kind of is that. it's about jabs and probing and footwork, i think. this is all based off of like 1 and a half hours and only like 20-30 matches, but i think that seems fairly accurate to me

 

[kambaybolongo]

Okay I don't like these kind of lobbys in general but...

Why would a matchmaking system just not be a better option?

 

[pizzacat]

Okay I don't like these kind of lobbys in general but...

Why would a matchmaking system just not be a better option?

Check the menu, there's something there for that but they're obviously not testing it with this beta

Lobby was super quick for me

And for the gameplay hey whatever see you in T7

 

[Antiwhippy]

Okay I don't like these kind of lobbys in general but...

Why would a matchmaking system just not be a better option?

Because the beta only has one option? I dunno. There were obviously more options but they were greyed out.

 

[kambaybolongo]

Okay cool I didn't think there would be different options.

 

[avengers23]

god, I hate this sticky warmth...I have no pool to cool off in.

The Dark Shower beckons.

 

[Hindl]

For the people using motion controls with arms, are you able to sit down or do you have to stand up to use them right?

 

[Jintor]

motion i was standing up in front of the screen

if i'm gonna imaginary punch to play a video game i'm gonna go all the way

 

[kambaybolongo]

For the people using motion controls with arms, are you able to sit down or do you have to stand up to use them right?

You can sit down just fine.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Jeff somehow managed to hire 2 fighting game guys that aren't very good at fighting games.

 

[KillerDark]

Goddamn I think I really like arms.

Did not expect that at all.

Agreed, I am liking it a lot... Before the test punch it was barely on my radar. What they showed during the directs didn't grab me. Pretty much sold on it after one test punch haha