kambaybolongo
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Thats just so silly.
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Thats just so silly.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
I just don't think they should bend the rules for PUBG's sake when in all likelihood an early access game with the same impact will not happen again anytime soon.
Otherwise do early access games qualify every year that they exist in early access?
Otherwise do early access games qualify every year that they exist in early access?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I'd say the only distinction is that they usually don't play early access games.
If you put in 100+ hours like vinny and dan did would your experience suddenly not count?
If you put in 100+ hours like vinny and dan did would your experience suddenly not count?
The early access thing is tricky. If it "qualifies" for debate this year (and doesn't win), then they can't debate it again in its release year.
I think they should just get rid of the concept of Early Access entirely if the game is asking for money on a public marketplace like Steam or Xbox (instead of a private community i.e Star Citizen). That's a released game, you're not kidding anybody with some arbitrary date. Fuck em.
I think they should just get rid of the concept of Early Access entirely if the game is asking for money on a public marketplace like Steam or Xbox (instead of a private community i.e Star Citizen). That's a released game, you're not kidding anybody with some arbitrary date. Fuck em.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
The early access thing is tricky. If it "qualifies" for debate this year (and doesn't win), then they can't debate it again in its release year.
I think they should just get rid of the concept of Early Access entirely if the game is asking for money on a public marketplace like Steam or Xbox (instead of a private community i.e Star Citizen). That's a released game, you're not kidding anybody with some arbitrary date. Fuck em.
Then those games should qualify the year you can first purchase them, and not qualify in subsequent years even if they get "released", regardless of when Giant Bomb discovers them or whether or not they consider them that first year.
I just don't think they should bend the rules for PUBG's sake when in all likelihood an early access game with the same impact will not happen again anytime soon.
Otherwise do early access games qualify every year that they exist in early access?
The qualify in the year you can buy them. Like everything else.
I can't think of any early access game that would have any chance at Goty if it's in early access for longer than a year - even if the eventual release is exellent. All the conversation and exitement happens in year 1. The gaming press doesn't really have an attention span for anything for longer than that, even the biggest titles.
The one exeption is super limited builds where you only see a fraction of the game like Divinity OS 2.
Human Trashcan
Banned
It's not arbitrary, though. There is no ambiguity as to when a game claims it's early access. No Man's Sky should have been and certainly felt like it, but that's on them.
You're actually making my point for me.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Just seems easier to only consider games when they declare themselves "out". If the gaming zeitgeist has moved on by then, so be it.
When should games be considered? The first year they are able to be purchased, and no subsequent year?
You're actually making my point for me.
When should games be considered? The first year they are able to be purchased, and no subsequent year?
The truth is it should have always counted by when you can pay for it and play it.
The game is our. No its not done no its not perfect. But the zeitgeist is now and it is clearly a game that has dominated 2017. Tonignore it because of the nature of release is a bit silly to me. You know this time next year there is 0 chance it makes the top 10, too many actually new games will have come out.
If you ignore pubg now you are basically ignoring it forever.
These are silly game of the year awards, I dont get why it has to have strict rules
The game is our. No its not done no its not perfect. But the zeitgeist is now and it is clearly a game that has dominated 2017. Tonignore it because of the nature of release is a bit silly to me. You know this time next year there is 0 chance it makes the top 10, too many actually new games will have come out.
If you ignore pubg now you are basically ignoring it forever.
These are silly game of the year awards, I dont get why it has to have strict rules
Just seems easier to only consider games when they declare themselves "out". If the gaming zeitgeist has moved on by then, so be it.
It's easier, but I consider "goty" a snapshot of the year. They played - and liked - a lot of PUBG (and dead cells), those games never being part of deliberations at the end of the year because of a technicality seems kind of a shame. Do we not want the fight of Zelda or Destiny 2 vs PUBG?
Han Seoul-Oh
Banned
PUBG should be eligible for goty despite being an early access because when the rule was made that it has to be 1.0 to even be considered, I doubt that they thought that an ea game could be so good.
Like in college football, when division 2 Appalachian State beat a top 5 ranked Michigan in the big house, they had to change the rules of the polling so that App State could get ranked with other D1 schools since prior to that game, no D2 school was eligible since no one thought it was possible for them to actually deserve a top 25 ranking.
Like in college football, when division 2 Appalachian State beat a top 5 ranked Michigan in the big house, they had to change the rules of the polling so that App State could get ranked with other D1 schools since prior to that game, no D2 school was eligible since no one thought it was possible for them to actually deserve a top 25 ranking.
LurkerPrime
Member
Who is their strategy/RPG duder nowadays? Between XCOM 2 a week ago, Divinity: Original Sin 2 next week, and Total Warhammer at the end of the month (plus stuff like Rabbids) it's kinda packed right now.
QLs pls.
This is Brad's long game to nominate (and give GotY) to DotA 2 forever and ever.
QLs pls.
I just don't think they should bend the rules for PUBG's sake when in all likelihood an early access game with the same impact will not happen again anytime soon.
Otherwise do early access games qualify every year that they exist in early access?
This is Brad's long game to nominate (and give GotY) to DotA 2 forever and ever.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Pretty sure it's vinny if he can find time between all the pubging.
And they still didn't deserve a top 25 ranking.PUBG should be eligible for goty despite being an early access because when the rule was made that it has to be 1.0 to even be considered, I doubt that they thought that an ea game could be so good.
Like in college football, when division 2 Appalachian State beat a top 5 ranked Michigan in the big house, they had to change the rules of the polling so that App State could get ranked with other D1 schools since prior to that game, no D2 school was eligible since no one thought it was possible for them to actually deserve a top 25 ranking.
They've played so much PUBG that it's worth talking about. It'll be silly if it doesn't get to be talked about on technicalities; they likely will not continue playing it as much next year.
If they want to separate "game they enjoyed the most" from "best game" then just make a new category as always. Their rules are their own; if something just gets in the way of what they want to do, it's outdated.
Note that I say this while thinking the discussion around PUBG in the GOTY arguments will be kinda boring at best but I'd just rather they deal with some of that in advance.
If they want to separate "game they enjoyed the most" from "best game" then just make a new category as always. Their rules are their own; if something just gets in the way of what they want to do, it's outdated.
Note that I say this while thinking the discussion around PUBG in the GOTY arguments will be kinda boring at best but I'd just rather they deal with some of that in advance.
Who is their strategy/RPG duder nowadays? Between XCOM 2 a week ago, Divinity: Original Sin 2 next week, and Total Warhammer at the end of the month (plus stuff like Rabbids) it's kinda packed right now.
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Sadly, i don't think they have anyone outside of individual favourites like Alex and Civ. They kind of don't have anyone for CRPG's either (divinity, shadowrun, pillars, ect. all got more or less ingored). Vinny might try one those, but not all of them.
Yeah I understand Jeff's position and in a vacuum I understand the logic. But I doubt they'll still be playing PUBG next year if it gets delayed and then they'll have to think back a year to get it on the list. Ultimately the best case scenario is to change the rules for next year like Jeff said, but PUBG has a full release this yearThe truth is it should have always counted by when you can pay for it and play it.
The game is our. No it's not done no it's not perfect. But the zeitgeist is now and it is clearly a game that has dominated 2017. Tonignore it because of the nature of release is a bit silly to me. You know this time next year there is 0 chance it makes the top 10, too many actually new games will have come out.
If you ignore pubg now you are basically ignoring it forever.
These are silly game of the year awards, I don't get why it has to have strict rules
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It would be suuuuch a huge bummer if PUBG wasn't eligible.
My heart couldn't take this injustice.
🤔🤔🤔
It would be suuuuch a huge bummer if PUBG wasn't eligible.
My heart couldn't take this injustice.
It's just a list. It'll be in all their personal top tens anyway.
MassiveNights
Banned
I see people are overestimating GOTY's importance again.
I get the reasoning why Early Access games aren't currently considered for GotY because of how long a game can remain in a playable, yet supposedly incomplete state. Do these games get a pass twice, once when it's still in EA and one later when it actually releases? What if they are different games from EA to full release?
I think PUBG is a big enough game as it is now to kind of be an exception to the rule. I think the best way forward would be to determine if an early access game should be eligible for GotY discussion on a game-to-game basis. If there's enough support for a game that is also in enough of a playable state and in process of actual release (aka not ARK or Star Citizen), then it could be considered and only considered in the year it is considered. So, PUBG gets a shot this year, but it only gets that shot this year, regardless of whether or not it somehow is even better next year if it misses 1.0 in 2017.
I think PUBG is a big enough game as it is now to kind of be an exception to the rule. I think the best way forward would be to determine if an early access game should be eligible for GotY discussion on a game-to-game basis. If there's enough support for a game that is also in enough of a playable state and in process of actual release (aka not ARK or Star Citizen), then it could be considered and only considered in the year it is considered. So, PUBG gets a shot this year, but it only gets that shot this year, regardless of whether or not it somehow is even better next year if it misses 1.0 in 2017.
It's just a list. It'll be in all their personal top tens anyway.
Ok. Together we can overcome this.
PUBwhat amirite?
So how about that Zelda game? *thinkingemoji*
Knack 2 is making it into the GotY top 10 isn't it
Just waiting for Vinny to suddenly reveal he played it with his kids and had a great time.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I see people are overestimating GOTY's importance again.
Or its just fun to discuss.
Ok. Together we can overcome this.
PUBwhat amirite?
So how about that Zelda game? *thinkingemoji*
I'm really curious if Odyssey is gonna dethrone BotW.
I see people are overestimating GOTY's importance again.
GOTY is so duuuuuuuuuumb that's why it's so fuuuuuuuuun.
We've been over this. I don't think for a second that anyone here actually takes GOTY seriously.
Fuck. I can see it clearly now.Just waiting for Vinny to suddenly reveal he played it with his kids and had a great time.
If it's good I think it will. Dan is a wash with Zelda vs Mario, and Vinny and Brad probably would be too. Jeff has come around on Zelda but if Mario is as good as could be, I think he'd put it over. So if everyone else is a wash and Jeff prefers Mario, Mario will winI'm really curious if Odyssey is gonna dethrone BotW.
I can see it happeningJust waiting for Vinny to suddenly reveal he played it with his kids and had a great time.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
If Vinny had to tell his kid that shooting rabbids makes them go home I don't know if his kid is ready for knack yet.
LurkerPrime
Member
Jeff will shut down any mention of Knack. I have faith in his faculties.
Right. I actually forgot Alex liked Civ. And Vinny... oh Vinny.
This, the greatest of release periods this year, deserves proper coverage. They need a strategy intern, stat.
Pretty sure it's vinny if he can find time between all the pubging.
Sadly, i don't think they have anyone outside of individual favourites like Alex and Civ. They kind of don't have anyone for CRPG's either (divinity, shadowrun, pillars, ect. all got more or less ingored). Vinny might try one those, but not all of them.
Right. I actually forgot Alex liked Civ. And Vinny... oh Vinny.
This, the greatest of release periods this year, deserves proper coverage. They need a strategy intern, stat.
MassiveNights
Banned
The last that i could remember was the gal gun double peace quick look which was funny just due to how uncomfortable dan got.
Yeah it def wasn't that, it wasn't that long ago
I see people are overestimating GOTY's importance again.
It's just fun the listen to them arguing about games they played this year.
If they don't want to have it on the list, it won't be. No big deal.
It's easier, but I consider "goty" a snapshot of the year. They played - and liked - a lot of PUBG (and dead cells), those games never being part of deliberations at the end of the year because of a technicality seems kind of a shame. Do we not want the fight of Zelda or Destiny 2 vs PUBG?
I've never read something that's made me so fearful of the future.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
PUBG is still supposed to come out this year, right? In which case my concerns are moot.
What I still don't understand is if a game is eligible in early access because it is "for sale," shouldn't that then disqualify it if it comes out in a subsequent year? And therefore the vast majority of early access games will probably never be in consideration.
I like rules, is what I'm saying.
What I still don't understand is if a game is eligible in early access because it is "for sale," shouldn't that then disqualify it if it comes out in a subsequent year? And therefore the vast majority of early access games will probably never be in consideration.
I like rules, is what I'm saying.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
PUBG is still supposed to come out this year, right? In which case my concerns are moot.
What I still don't understand is if a game is eligible in early access because it is "for sale," shouldn't that then disqualify it if it comes out in a subsequent year? And therefore the vast majority of early access games will probably never be in consideration.
I like rules, is what I'm saying.
But are you lawful neutral or lawful evil.
KillerDark
Member
If it's good I think it will. Dan is a wash with Zelda vs Mario, and Vinny and Brad probably would be too. Jeff has come around on Zelda but if Mario is as good as could be, I think he'd put it over. So if everyone else is a wash and Jeff prefers Mario, Mario will win
I can see it happening
Mario is going to have to be really really good to top Zelda for Dan I think. Just read his review, game hasn't made him feel like that since he was a kid (I agree with him heh) etc. Not saying its impossible but I think it is unlikely based on his review. Don't think anyone else feels as strongly about Zelda as Dan though?
Who knows though, we all thought Doom would be GOTY last year no contest haha
Ok. Together we can overcome this.
PUBwhat amirite?
So how about that Zelda game? *thinkingemoji*
oh that zelda game on the snes classic
yeah that's a pretty good game. shame none of them are as good as that one
Mario is going to have to be really really good to top Zelda for Dan I think. Just read his review, game hasn't made him feel like that since he was a kid (I agree with him heh) etc. Not saying its impossible but I think it is unlikely based on his review.
Who knows though, we all thought Doom would be GOTY last year no contest haha
Dan was completely enamored with Phantom Pain when he wrote his review
listen to his opinion on the game months down the road
I never played that. But I love ALBW, so I should love this too.oh that zelda game on the snes classic
yeah that's a pretty good game. shame none of them are as good as that one
I'll just need to wait for SNES games to arrive on Switch then. 💀
Sleeping Lesson
Member
But are you lawful neutral or lawful evil.
I'm always the hero in my story.