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[Fjordson]

Wow, I step away from GB stuff for a day and miss so much! That topic on GB about GAF is great.

I don't look at the GB forums often how is the moderation? I haven't seen anyone banned but then again I look over there very rarely.

I actually think it's pretty terrible. Most of the people are fine, it's the mods that are garbage. Don't seem to have a clue as to what they're doing. Unnecessarily cracking down out of nowhere sometimes, letting worthless troll topics become huge threads other times. Never makes much sense. Though I should say that I rarely post there these days thanks to spending so much time on GAF so it could be much improved at this point.

And yeah actual bans are rare it seems. I think they just close/delete threads.

Anyways, Bombcast time!

 

[Htown]

Always crazy to me when people talk about how easy it is to get banned on GAF when most of the time avoiding a banning is pretty straight-forward.

1. Before hitting submit, look at what you just wrote. Is it very likely to offend and/or hurt someone?

2. If no, post. If yes, ask yourself: "Do I still really want to say this anyway?"

3. Next you should ask, "Have other people already said this exact thing over and over in this very thread?"

4. If yes: congratulations, you read more than the OP before posting. Also, don't post. If no, post.

These basic rules can also be applied to most real life interactions. It's not rocket science.

But then everyone posting in this thread isn't banned, so you probably know that.

I've gotten banned while following all of those rules.

 

[weekend_warrior]

What a douchebag.

Edit: I found him if anyone's interested

Link

Ha, kid follows The Miz, 'Nuff said.

 

[Stackboy]

I lurk on both Neogaf and Giant Bomb and I have no idea what's going on.

 

[stupei]

I've gotten banned while following all of those rules.

Oh, it's still possible. But not as INEVITABLE AND ALWAYS UNFAIR AND UNJUST as a threads elsewhere always make it out to be. They also seem to think that perma-bans are handed out like candy.

That's why those rules should probably have an addendum of: "and don't post in any political or sales threads as a junior."

Overall I think GAF's moderation doesn't discourage discussion so much as it encourages people to take even just a small moment to think before posting. You don't always see that elsewhere on the internet.

 

[Bedlam]

Wow, I step away from GB stuff for a day and miss so much! That topic on GB about GAF is great.


I actually think it's pretty terrible. Most of the people are fine, it's the mods that are garbage. Don't seem to have a clue as to what they're doing. Unnecessarily cracking down out of nowhere sometimes, letting worthless troll topics become huge threads other times. Never makes much sense. Though I should say that I rarely post there these days thanks to spending so much time on GAF so it could be much improved at this point.

And yeah actual bans are rare it seems. I think they just close/delete threads.

They do ban people, it's just that there aren't that many trolls that need to get banned. In general, the mods do a fine job over at GB. Sure, the rules are a little bit more lax but the flagging system works, nothing gets out of control really. Troll/spam topics are always taken care of, sometimes it just takes an hour or two. And keep in mind that mods also have to oversee the wiki, approve new entries etc.

 

[Rapstah]

They do ban people, it's just that there aren't that many trolls that need to get banned. In general, the mods do a fine job over at GB. Sure, the rules are a little bit more lax but the flagging system works, nothing gets out of control really. Troll/spam topics are always taken care of, sometimes it just takes an hour or two. And keep in mind that mods also have to oversee the wiki, approve new entries etc.

I think the wiki part of their site is the best functioning and most unique part of it. The system of approvals, the limits when you no longer need to be approved and editting works great, and they're fixing a lot of the flaws (like getting no points for removing bad things) in the next update.

But I'll never forgive Giantbomb.com for having the "get the first comment on a video or article" quest. Fuck that shit. Since the default comment sorting is first comment first, the first page you get is always full of people trying to get the first post with bullshit.

 

[Bedlam]

But I'll never forgive Giantbomb.com for having the "get the first comment on a video or article" quest. Fuck that shit. Since the default comment sorting is first comment first, the first page you get is always full of people trying to get the first post with bullshit.

That quest was a mistake, no doubt.

 

[see5harp]

Hilarous this week! The Dumbo shit had me in tears and the Snoop Lion/No Limit/Irie Jah Man had me laughing on the way to work.

 

[HamPster PamPster]

Forum talk? Forum talk:

The magic of GAF is simple - It defaults to 50 posts per page. Looking at the measly twenty on giantbomb is awful. Plus the lack of a ton of sub forums

 

[alr1ght]

Why does GB have 5700 forums?

 

[Myomoto]

Why does GB have 5700 forums?

Gotta discuss 1 million video games somewhere.

 

[Patryn]

Forum talk? Forum talk:

The magic of GAF is simple - It defaults to 50 posts per page. Looking at the measly twenty on giantbomb is awful. Plus the lack of a ton of sub forums

The magic of GAF is shifting to 100 posts per page.

 

[Megasoum]

The magic of GAF is shifting to 100 posts per page.

Or do like I do and use the Neogaf Live Thread chrome addon to get INFINITE posts per page!

 

[Typographenia]

The great thing about GAF isn't beating the games, it's telling everyone online that I did.

 

[snoopeasystreet]

Forum talk? Forum talk:

The magic of GAF is simple - It defaults to 50 posts per page. Looking at the measly twenty on giantbomb is awful. Plus the lack of a ton of sub forums

The magic of GAF is that there's one gaming forum (and the community subforum) where everyone posts together, that weeds out the majority of the scumbags because they don't have a ghetto to hide in and the ones that do survive are usually funny enough that they deserve their place.

 

[Hot Coldman]

The great thing about GAF isn't beating the games, it's telling everyone online that I did.

 

[Bedlam]

Why does GB have 5700 forums?

Every Wiki item (games, concepts etc) has a potential forum attached. It's confusing at first but you get used to it quickly.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Are they still complaining about Gaf rules?

edit- wow they actually have this?

 

[Rufus]

Are they still complaining about Gaf rules?

edit- wow they actually have this?

Yeah, should have been check boxes instead. Tsk tsk.

 

[Typographenia]

Yeah, should have been check boxes instead. Tsk tsk.

Isn't that what neutral is for?
I'm neutral.
Like the Witcher.

Spoiler

I'm Geralt!

 

[Curufinwe]

I used to post in the P4 forum at Giant Bomb quite a bit a few years back, and it was fine apart from a few retards into insisted the Persona 4 comic didn't have spoilers in it.

Now I only ever really post comments on videos or stories.

 

[Pancakes]

The great thing about GAF isn't beating the games, it's telling everyone online that I did.

Backlog threads are basically support groups.

 

[Haunted]

Are they still complaining about Gaf rules?

edit- wow they actually have this?

Awesome, I want that on GAF.

 

[Mr. F]

Just watched this week's I Love Mondays after somehow missing it. I hope the Just Cause 2 multiplayer Beta for TNT actually works out (not sure what they'd fall back on in these scarce times).

 

[Gav47]

Are they still complaining about Gaf rules?

edit- wow they actually have this?

http://i.minus.com/i82rAuKAng3g8.png[IMG][/QUOTE]

If I could make my name blue over here I totally would. Best colour.

 

[RiccochetJ]

If I could make my name blue over here I totally would. Best colour.

The neutral color is grey over there. I wish I could be grey ov.... wait, no I don't.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

If I could make my name blue over here I totally would. Best colour.

Is that what that does?

I thought it would list somewhere under your profile "I AM ALIGNED WITH PLAYSTATION"

Which totally wouldn't start any fights.

 

[tsigo]

Yeah it just colors your name. Handy shorthand for ignoring posts by people who have colored names.

 

[MonsterDunk]

The magic of GAF is that there's one gaming forum (and the community subforum) where everyone posts together, that weeds out the majority of the scumbags because they don't have a ghetto to hide in and the ones that do survive are usually funny enough that they deserve their place.

We actually surface posts from every board on the main forum index to prevent people from finding a little backwoods board that they can use to sell drugs (which actually happened on GameFAQs years and years ago, if I remember correctly).

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

I just sell drugs in this thread.

 

[Typographenia]

We actually surface posts from every board on the main forum index to prevent people from finding a little backwoods board that they can use to sell drugs (which actually happened on GameFAQs years and years ago, if I remember correctly).

Sounds like a good place to get rid of a Missile Command machine. Or a mattress.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

We actually surface posts from every board on the main forum index to prevent people from finding a little backwoods board that they can use to sell drugs (which actually happened on GameFAQs years and years ago, if I remember correctly).

:O

 

[MonsterDunk]

Are they still complaining about Gaf rules?

edit- wow they actually have this?

This was a holdover from Comic Vine, which sort of treated user accounts as a create-a-character sort of thing. So they had Good/Neutral/Evil. We just decided to plug in the video gaming equivalent and make neutral the most boring color possible so that only people who truly don't give a shit about petty things like platform preferences and forum colors would stick with gray.

Fun fact: For awhile now, most spam accounts (that is, accounts created by robots to post links to sites) have their account creation scripts set up to choose Nintendo.

 

[Patryn]

We actually surface posts from every board on the main forum index to prevent people from finding a little backwoods board that they can use to sell drugs (which actually happened on GameFAQs years and years ago, if I remember correctly).

The things you learn. That's kind of hilarious. I almost wish I could have seen the meetings where the GameFAQs people were no doubt freaking out about legal liability.

 

[Typographenia]

I really hope the bot accounts are actually made to default to nintendo and not just the first option. That would be incredible, haha

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

We just decided to plug in the video gaming equivalent and make neutral the most boring color possible so that only people who truly don't give a shit about petty things like platform preferences and forum colors would stick with gray.

thanks!

 

[alr1ght]

i will be hanging out here if you want something
http://www.giantbomb.com/drugs/92-1464/forums/

I still prefer gaf's format of one giant board filled with all topics, but I can see how gb's style could be useful.

 

[MonsterDunk]

That quest was a mistake, no doubt.

Fun fact: The first page of comments on our site was always shit. So we made that quest and set it up so if anyone typed "first" in the first post, they didn't get credit for completing the quest. I think that was Vinny's idea. Maybe Dave's, I don't remember for sure. At least now the first page is... slightly different shit? Yeah, it's still less than ideal. But that's a problem across the Internet, not just on GB.

Maybe we should just auto-hide any comment that was left before a person could have possibly watched an entire video or something? I dunno. Not an easy problem to solve unless you just want to start cracking down and banning people for stuff like that... which is perhaps a bit extreme.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Fun fact: The first page of comments on our site was always shit. So we made that quest and set it up so if anyone typed "first" in the first post, they didn't get credit for completing the quest. I think that was Vinny's idea. Maybe Dave's, I don't remember for sure. At least now the first page is... slightly different shit? Yeah, it's still less than ideal. But that's a problem across the Internet, not just on GB.

Maybe we should just auto-hide any comment that was left before a person could have possibly watched an entire video or something? I dunno. Not an easy problem to solve unless you just want to start cracking down and banning people for stuff like that... which is perhaps a bit extreme.

How do you feel about a voting system for comments?

 

[alr1ght]

Just filter out any posts that have a variant of "first" in it.

 

[FStop7]

I went back and listened to last year's post-CAX Bombcast to hear Patrick's experience with acquiring a cabinet. None of the terminology meant anything to me then. MVS, 1 slot, 4 slot, etc.

Now I understand it. I understand what CPS2 is and what Phoenix Editions are and all kinds of other things I was ignorant of until mere days ago.

And now I know I'm going to do something so incredibly rash and dumb and yet I can't stop it from happening. I'm sifting through Craigslist and all I see is opportunity. But the truth is that all I see is danger. I'm going to end up with a 300lb cathode ray tube monkey on my back.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

Just filter out any posts that have a variant of "first" in it.

we need this on GAF but for the first five posts of basically any OT thread. The massive pile-on for funny first comment that gets quoted a million times is almost to the point of self-parody.

 

[MonsterDunk]

How do you feel about a voting system for comments?

Hate it. It doesn't scale too well and, in my experience, doesn't work well with a gaming audience. You get assholes (console fanboys) who gang together, create a bunch of alt accounts, and go around voting down anyone talking about the consoles they don't like. GameSpot was full of bullshit like that for a reeeeeal long time.

That's why Facebook doesn't have an "unlike" button. If we were to do something that resembled a voting system, it'd be like that. It'd only have an upvote, no downvote.

 

[Data West]

Jeff's spending his birthday talking to gaf. I knew you really cared.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Don't do a voting system, even just a "like" one. Then it'll turn into YouTube where the top voted comments are all just quotes of the video.

 

[FStop7]

The first site I can think of that I frequented with user 'scoring' of comments was Slashot. Then Digg. Then Reddit. There's been rampant abuse of the system on all of them.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

All comments are hard to follow a conversation with so I just don't read em.

 

[Typographenia]

Don't do a voting system, even just a "like" one. Then it'll turn into YouTube where the top voted comments are all just quotes of the video.

25 people don't like your girlfriend.



Just curious, Jeff, do you think we'll see the next consoles adopt an achievement/trophy list for the console itself? Something like "Add 50 friends to your friendslist," "Send 10 notes to friends," or anything along those lines that promotes using certain aspects of the consoles?

 

[Lonestar]

Just watched this week's I Love Mondays after somehow missing it. I hope the Just Cause 2 multiplayer Beta for TNT actually works out (not sure what they'd fall back on in these scarce times).

wait wat, did they say they were doing a JC2 MP TNT?

It was a fun 2 day romp in JC2. But then again, it was kind of broken