Riposte
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I think what she writes is complete and utter garbage. So, yeah, no saving grace.
Giant Bomb Thread The Third: #TeamBrad
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I think what she writes is complete and utter garbage. So, yeah, no saving grace.
How dare she not be of the same opinion as me, couldn't she ask a man first before writing her opinions?
I find her articles to be well-articulated and often insightful: A writer doesn't have to be "right" all the time to deserve respect.
Alexander must have really slighted you guys - still so bitter just because of a relatively short appearance on a general drunk-cast two years ago.
Really? Because she's the one who keeps bringing it up. I haven't mentioned her in about 2 years. And what is that strawman first post?
You do know that Carrie Gouskos has acted silly on podcasts with them before right? And that it wasn't near as extreme of a problem? No one has been as obnoxiously drunk as she was. Did you do any research on this or are you just looking to pick a fight?
come on
WrenchNinja
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Its good that Patrick left out her tweet in his article cause it would have caused a lot of arguing.
Riposte
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So what you are saying is I'm lying about my opinion? Is Leigh's channeling her delusion into you or something?
firehawk12
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Honestly, that podcast and the various massive failures on 1up Yours is just proof that most people should not drink while podcasting. It's probably fine to be obnoxious in private, when all you are doing is bothering people in the room, but when you record it for posterity, it just becomes a mess.
I mean, I understand that after a day watching video game footage over and over again that you want to get smashed, but maybe bail on doing a podcast.
That said, I'd much rather have her on another Bombcast again then yet another shitty shill session with the guys from Microsoft. If you want to talk about horrible E3 podcasts, that tops the list.
lololol, Simping 101
Dark Schala
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I can't even remember the thread he was so mad at GAF about... something about Nostradamus?
Well, at least we got some decent discussion on the E3 streams otherwise. I love when devs come on, shoot the shit, and just chat about how dev processes work, etc. The E3 casts are at their best when they're informative or when they're telling stories as opposed to partying down or something.
Gosh, I disagree with her sometimes.
That means I must be male!
John Rabbit
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leigh alexander is the worst kind of writer. in any genre or industry. she is pompous, weak to criticism, and exceedingly myopic and pandering with her ideas.
as a man, she'd be stephen totilo.
as a woman, she is leigh alexander.
as a man, she'd be stephen totilo.
as a woman, she is leigh alexander.
She did it twice, as I recall. Back-to-back E3's, but it was only in the second one that she was super objectionable.
I will say that I think the GB guys are kind of embarrassed about the event at this point. They know that they'll forever be associated with 775 because of it, but I recall at least one instance of them dismissing a question about what it meant with a non-answer. Then there was the unfortunate IM screen capture.
And that's all I have to say about that.
Men who scream "Fuck Boston" over and over on a videogame podcast are loved by everyone.
Riposte
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IDK Stephen Totilo seems to be in a different circle. I more associate her with Tim Rogers and the Insert Credit crew.
It's her own fault. She was annoying as hell the first year. They gave her a second chance and made an even bigger fool of herself. If she redeemed herself no one would remember but she doubled down. If it was a guy it would be the same thing.
Who even knows, he's bent out of shape over some ancient Sales-Age shit I think. It's sort of creepy to see a big shot industry analyst so fabulously butthurt over an Internet forum.
Tim Rogers is in his own class of WTFness.
Are you a redditor?
ThanksVision
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What's this about?
I didn't find her behaviour on the podcasts offensive, it was a pretty entertaining to watch train wreck and i'd like her to go back on to do the same thing.
The offensive thing was her response to people's reactions on twitter, and the way she keeps insisting its a gender thing.
I have yet to see anyone behaving that way on a podcast, or pretty much any other form of media. And the few cases I can think of from mainstream media were criticised for it, regardless of their gender.
anywhere where is my livestream?
The offensive thing was her response to people's reactions on twitter, and the way she keeps insisting its a gender thing.
I have yet to see anyone behaving that way on a podcast, or pretty much any other form of media. And the few cases I can think of from mainstream media were criticised for it, regardless of their gender.
anywhere where is my livestream?
The strawmen are out I see. Get a fucking grip.
And some of us don't. Oh how dare we not have the same opinion as you. Maybe we should ask some females before posting our own opinions to you, lest you find them unacceptable.
And she is the one who keeps bringing it up, not us. With the weak excuse that it was all about her gender no less.
Nothing was more uncomfortable and embarrassing than that awful awful "hiphop" song created by Christian Spicer and played on Weekend Confirmed. Oof
Yep, and before that she had written for Crystal Dynamics during the Soul Reaver days. Awesome work.
Absoludacrous
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Pretty much. I actually had a lot of respect for her based on her writing before that bombcast, but after seeing that, it all came crashing down.
That's fine, you don't have to like what I like.
Leigh Alexander is brought up probably every three months in this thread, and she is continually getting verbally attacked by crazy GB fans. It IS getting obnoxious - finally lay this stuff to rest.
I don't know exactly what Pachter was so mad about, but the big thread about him pre-E3 was called Michael Pachter: Truly The anti-Nostradomus [sic].
NathanMcMahon
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Any word on a Bombcast this week?
This year's E3 bombcast was kind of a dud to me, but that was gold.
JeTmAn81
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I don't doubt that, but what was the source of the misogynist harassment? Randoms on the internet, or peers in the industry? If the latter, then I would say she has a point. If the former, isn't that just business as usual for the networked cesspool?
Also Roberta Williams, one of the smartest people in the games industry. Male or female. I guess I just think Faith being there makes jackasses like me ignore most of the article and go 'Faith? Really?' I mean, it's not as bad as if it were a Mass Effect or Dragon Age character. WHICH, by the way, are the perfect examples that women in games can write crappy, one dimensional, sex obsessed characters. Dragon Age 2. But of course, Bioware's writers are their own gender of bad.
You realize the only reason this came up again was because she brought it up, right?
Has there ever not been a Bombcast? They normally don't go up until late on Tuesday, so probably another 8-10 hours.
WrenchNinja
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There was a screen cap of Ryan talking to one of the guys on IM saying that she was nuts. This was right after her several hour long drunken twitter tirade, which was also right after the infamous e3 bombcast.
funkystudent
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Ah Leigh Alexander. Plenty of people have been drunk ass holes during many e3 podcasts.
She was nothing special in that regard but her reaction afterwards kicking up a stink over twitter caused more damage to her image then "775 million dollars" ever could on its own.
And the exact same thing happens 2 years in a row which makes it kind of more pathetic.
Sort of like the recent Eurogamer / MCV stuff... but about being drunk instead of being a PR shill.
Lesson is if you feel you have been wrongly portrayed negatively you probably shouldn't try righting that wrong by being a asshole.
Dont poke the internet beehive before at least trying to understand why people are angry in the first place then calmly think about what to do because if you just keep quite for a few days people will probably just move on.
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She was nothing special in that regard but her reaction afterwards kicking up a stink over twitter caused more damage to her image then "775 million dollars" ever could on its own.
And the exact same thing happens 2 years in a row which makes it kind of more pathetic.
Sort of like the recent Eurogamer / MCV stuff... but about being drunk instead of being a PR shill.
Lesson is if you feel you have been wrongly portrayed negatively you probably shouldn't try righting that wrong by being a asshole.
Dont poke the internet beehive before at least trying to understand why people are angry in the first place then calmly think about what to do because if you just keep quite for a few days people will probably just move on.
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I'm the one who just bought it up.
I don't like stirring up history but reading that Kotaku post, and noticing her tweet among it, I took issue with the following:
- Co-opting the #1reasonwhy hash yesterday to bring up the podcast appearance
- Did the typical 'Games Journalism!' bullshit of making the story about themselves rather than reporting on it.
- Misrepresented the facts of her appearance as something that would have been well-received had she been male
Yet we are the bitter ones?
You know what stops the bombcast? NOTHING.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Theirs got to be SOMETHING.
Ventilaator
Banned
While Leigh was pretty awful on the bombcast, the idea that anyone who expresses any sort of dislike towards her apperance is automatically a guaranteed mysognist is infinitely more horrible. Just because the gender was a part of it for some people doesn't mean that everyone who listened to the bombcast (and isn't deaf) hates women.
JeTmAn81
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Sounds like the Streisand Effect.
I'd be interested to see a list of weeks when they actually didn't do a Bombcast. They've been few and far between. They're like the Cal Ripken of gaming podcasts.
Foliorum Viridum
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I can't remember them ever missing a week. Have they?
I'm on the Giant Bomb 2 thread, ctrl+Fing 'Leigh', and I have so far only found 1 isolated mention. I'm working backwards from the last page, and I'm currently on page 190. That's 900 posts.
Now, can we please stop doing what Leigh seemingly wants us to do and talk about the actual issue and not about her making it about herself?
Now, can we please stop doing what Leigh seemingly wants us to do and talk about the actual issue and not about her making it about herself?
She's a woman journalist talking about her experience with sexism in the industry (in this case, very clearly gendered and continual personal attacks). Of course she's talking about her personal background.
And yes, I don't see continual attacks on this level for men that have appeared heavily intoxicated and obnoxious on gaming podcasts.
She came up in the E3 2012 thread as well as the GiantBomb thread in February.
JeTmAn81
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You should be ashamed of yourself. People like you are the reason we're in this mess.
On Neogaf (and elsewhere) people even get picked apart for just a wrong word in a PR release. If you try to defend your mistakes stupidly on twitter you will be remembered (and ridiculed) forever. Bringing it up yourself regurarily will only keep the memory fresh.
That happens to a lot of guys, it's not a matter of gender. Sadly, it's part of Internet culture.
Foliorum Viridum
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Dark Schala
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I wish nothing stopped the NDX and Game Room. ;__;
I've seen general irritation with Jamie Kennedy for being... I don't know what he was doing... during a press conference.
slightconfuse
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Bonnie McFarland is a way better example than faith.
Also the women from mass effect
Also the women from mass effect
Foliorum Viridum
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Alyx Vance is still the pinnacle of female characters.
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