Giant Bomb Thread The Third: #TeamBrad

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In addition I don't understand
how not even the Leviathans know what the Crucible does. If neither they nor anyone who served them designed it, who did? And don't they watch everything? How can they not know? How does that make any sense? This seems to be just a convoluted poor written plot construct to preserve the rainbow 'surprise' at the end.

And why does it say
there was no accident and it still serves its purpose if it wiped out their own race? Clearly they didn't intend that to happen and yet "there was no mistake". This really seems to me like a poor justification for building them in the first place and the Reapers' 'mission'.

And even if you go through this conversation,
Star Child still says you don't know their progenitors and there is no time to explain.

All these patches and band-aids only made a bigger mess in my opinion.

Edit: Sorry, spoiler tagged as fast as I remembered.
 
Dude, even though most of us have most likely already played ME3 (or at least know the 'ending'), this still isn't a ME thread, so you should probably spoiler block your post.
 
Dude, even though most of us have most likely already played ME3 (or at least know the 'ending'), this still isn't a ME thread, so you should probably spoiler block your post.

Yeah, I apologize, I just remembered to. These questions I had made me watch Leviathan again and I wasn't thinking of tags. Fixed now.
 
Oh shit, I just watched Leviathan's ending on Youtube and it really does soften the silly ending since it tells you quite alot already.

Still a bad ending though. And too many plotholes.
 
Everyone is so dramatic about ME3.
Or maybe I am just easy to please.

I thought it was fine...*shrug*...
Perfect? No
How I would have done it? No

But it was a very fun game, that provided conclusions to almost every plot thread in the entire series.
 
I think you must be going by this.

A magical glowing child comes out of nowhere to tell you that it created the bad guys for the purpose of killing everything in the galaxy to save everything in the galaxy, and gives you three incredibly contrived and vague ending options that border on space magic, to solve a philosophical problem you may have already solved in your playthrough.

Cue three "different" endings that are mostly the same outside of the color of a laser beam and minor visual changes; several things that don't make any logical sense happen; nothing about the fate of any of the people and races you met and influenced is revealed; you could interpret the ending as the destruction of the Mass Effect setting but it was unclear if that was intentional or not; Buzz Aldrin badly voice acting an old man who reveals that all this time the series was him telling his grandson an old story about a legendary figure known as "the Shepard"; and the series ends on a message telling you "thanks for playing, buy DLC."
 
What do you think Dave's Eastern Bloc GOTY will be? I feel like our comrades from the East haven't really stepped it up this year, unless I'm forgetting something.
 
It gets better when you realize that the guys who wrote the ending clearly were thinking more about some vague "meaningful" message than the universe they spent so long building up.

Why did the Normandy crash land on a Garden of Eden jungle planet? Why is it so triumphantly framed when they have no idea what the fuck is going on? How did your squadmates who disappeared on the ground suddenly get up on the ship? Wait, won't Tali and Garrus starve since they can't eat the same food? Wait, what about the multi-species fleets around Earth? Aren't they stuck there for decades or centuries now, orbiting a nearly ruined planet? How can the choices about entire species' fates even matter if they can't even travel across the galaxy any more to make those choices meaningful? Why does the Catalyst have more options if your fleet if bigger? Why does Destroy kill all the Reapers, but also the geth, but not EDI who is made out of Reaper software? How come Destroy can't distinguish between different types of synthetics, but Control does, just affecting Reapers? How does Shepard jumping into a laser beam send his/her "essence" across the galaxy to make everyone into cyborgs? Wait, why does the Catalyst call Shepard partly synthetic, when "synthetic" in Mass Effect specifically means artificial intelligence, not mechanical bodies, and only a few hours before EDI told Shepard that his/her mind is totally organic? When the Reapers consider synthetic life as a threat, do they just mean robot people? What about clones or genetically engineered races? Because they just talk about robots. How does turning everyone into cyborgs stop the threat of robots taking over and killing everyone? Can cyborgs not make robots now? Because otherwise the same philosophy of creations overthrowing creators stands. What, did all the metal in the galaxy turn into meat or something, like how all the life in the galaxy has wires on it now? Why does Joker's hat have circuits on it? Why does EDI have circuits on her skin, she was already a robot, did she become a double robot? If the mass relays all blew up and Arrival says that's like a supernova, did you just kill everyone in the galaxy near a relay? If not, why not? Was it a special controlled explosion triggered by the color-coded laser beams? Why? Why does Shepard never question anything the Catalyst says? Why does the Catalyst still act as though synthetic and organic life are incompatible if you guided EDI and Joker to fall in love, and brought the quarians and geth peace? Why did Sovereign and Harbinger not seem to know anything about this "preserving organic life" motivation in Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2? They seemed to think it was all about destruction or Reaper reproduction. If the Reaper AI lives in the Citadel, why does Sovereign have to open up the Citadel's relay in ME1 to let the other Reapers in? Why didn't the Reapers just modify the Citadel to stop the Crucible from attaching? What, they didn't know about it? They're a race that specializes in taking over people's minds, they never found out about it in over a billion years? Why were there two power terminals connected to the Reapers on board the Citadel all this time? Did nobody know what they were? Or study them? Why is this old space grandpa in the future telling this graphic tale of sex and violence to his grandson? Is Shepard space Jesus now? Was the whole trilogy a very inappropriate bedtime story? Why did they decide to have the farewell message be a pop-up asking you to buy DLC?


whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy /plinkett


And then the Extended Cut tried to answer these questions with a mixture of
the Catalyst outright saying, "Oh, that's not important and there's no time to explain," implying that the Catalyst is insane so that's why its motivations make no sense, outright retconning the relays blowing the fuck up and instead showing them sort of falling apart with little explosions so they could be repaired like a month later so galactic society goes right back to normal.

Oh no, I've gone cross-eyed.
 
Perhaps Cain has a chance for character of the year
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Cain should definitely be up for new character of the year. Guy was the one of the best things narratively about Binary Domain.
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Never saw this. A change for the better.

So did Brad like ME3 overall? Game gets way to bad of a rap around here.
 
Cain should definitely be up for new character of the year. Guy was the one of the best things narratively about Binary Domain.

Never saw this. A change for the better.

So did Brad like ME3 overall? Game gets way to bad of a rap around here.

I get the sense that he liked it. How much, I'm not sure. I'm sure we'll hear plenty on Tuesday.
 
You guys are cray. Javik is the best new character I'd like to party with.

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Who cares if its dlc, he is amazing for every single thing out of his mouth is glorious.
 
Agreed. I though Big Bo was pretty awesome at the start but he became kind of a big fool by the end.
Yeah, I thought he would be silly (saw him in some promo shots or whatever) but he was legitimately cool in the game.
I get the sense that he liked it. How much, I'm not sure. I'm sure we'll hear plenty on Tuesday.
Good deal. I don't follow anyone on twitter so I didn't know about his tweets. It sounded like he was having a good time on the bombcasts but was spending wayyyy to much effort on analyzing and anticipating the ending.
 
I should play me3. I want to play it on PC though so ill have to transfer my 360 save of me2 to PC. I wonder which platform Brad was playing on? Probably 360?
 
Good to see he looks like he understands how bad the original game was, I was worried he wouldn't since he played Leviathan and the new ending.
 
I'm trying to think what else other than The Walking Dead or XCOM could win GOTY, but I'm coming up blank. I can't think of anything else popular among all of them.
 
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