Girls - Season 2 - Sundays on HBO

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Time to give this show a chance.

I honestly feel this is one of the most insufferable shows on television. This and Newsroom. HBO has really lost a step lately.

I dislike Newsroom, and I agree with the bolded part.

HBO's pretty terrific and clearly the best channel on TV. Girls is similarly marvelous.

Not right now, no.

This isn't the Homeland thread. And it's produced by Showtime, not HBO.

Right now FX is the best channel imho.

Showtime and FX are ahead of HBO at the moment.
 
HBO currently has Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire in their lineup and they've lost a step? To each their own, I guess, they have excellent shows in my opinion.

The rest of the cable world has just exploded in the past few years, providing excellent shows that can be just as good as HBO ones. In terms of pure depth, FX's current lineup is pretty incredible though.
 
The show is pretty awful. However I watch it because it highlights a world of privlidge that I will never, ever understand. Williamsburg and LES are very much this show, except with even more young kids getting massive checks from their parents.
 
Yoshiya said:
I had a bet with myself as to how long it'd take for Losing You to show up this season. First ep! Though it deserved a scene as good as Dancing On My Own in S1.

That is the best scene of the show in my opinion, I mean in the entire run of the show, and up there with scenes that I can name off the top of my head as blowing me away. I love that song, I loved that part, I loved the conversation after. That's a very high mark to beat.

Agreed. Dancing On My Own was just such a perfect moment for the show -- a sorta-indie hit which fits the Brooklyn vibe / young people dancing in their bedroom to get out their emotions / obtuse Twitter message that seems deep to no one but the writer / the whole "Eli is gay" conversation as a highlight of Marnie's friendship. It felt current and it felt authentic.

The show is pretty awful. However I watch it because it highlights a world of privlidge that I will never, ever understand. Williamsburg and LES are very much this show, except with even more young kids getting massive checks from their parents.

I think I sorta get what you mean... but I don't feel like this world of privilege is really that foreign. It's not as privileged as, say, Sex and the City, or Fraser, or Mad Men... Are you more bothered by the characters' massive selfishness?
 
Really liked the pilot.

But damn, it was so weird to see Becky Ann Baker playing such a bitchy mother. She was such a sweety in Freaks and Geeks.
 
That was my fear, but I'm hoping Glover just exists to make Hannah realise how totally awesome Adam is.

I don't know. I'm pretty excited that Glover is on the show... I would honestly rather see more of him than Adam but that's probably just because I'm a fan.

Also, I think the whole money think is kind of ridiculous. None of them really have jobs. I mean I think currently shes working part time at the coffee place. I don't think that would cover her half of the rent for the apartment if that is what we're supposed to believe.
 
Watched 8 episodes of this today. I surprisingly enjoyed this. a lot.

One thing though: I think almost every one of Marnie's situations are a bit unrealistic. She's too fucking hot and doesn't seem to have much confidence... at all.

In the party episode, she got slapped in the face by the gay dude and didn't even do anything, she just left like she was 13.
 
I started watching the show for Allison Williams and was surprised by its quality. Its a good show. Although I must admit, I still come back for more Allison Williams that girl is at the top of Hollywood for me.
 
Is this just a polarizing love or hate kind of show? I see people saying it is "insufferable". That's hard for me to process because I think very highly of the show. Can someone who finds it insufferable explain what they dislike so much?
 
Is this just a polarizing love or hate kind of show? I see people saying it is "insufferable". That's hard for me to process because I think very highly of the show. Can someone who finds it insufferable explain what they dislike so much?

For me, it's only the Marnie character.

She's the dumb self centered bitch in the room that no one likes, but they deal with just because.
 
Watching s2e1, I realized that Marnie's character reminded me of Kristen Wiig's character in "Bridesmaids" -- especially when she's talking to Charlie at the party -- she's putting up a facade, saying things she doesn't really mean, and she's sabotaging her own happiness via her ego.

I guess that's an Apatow-ism, but I enjoy that kind of portrayal. (And I can understand if other people hate it)
 
Agreed. Dancing On My Own was just such a perfect moment for the show -- a sorta-indie hit which fits the Brooklyn vibe / young people dancing in their bedroom to get out their emotions / obtuse Twitter message that seems deep to no one but the writer / the whole "Eli is gay" conversation as a highlight of Marnie's friendship. It felt current and it felt authentic.



I think I sorta get what you mean... but I don't feel like this world of privilege is really that foreign. It's not as privileged as, say, Sex and the City, or Fraser, or Mad Men... Are you more bothered by the characters' massive selfishness?

I am bothered by their selfishness, and the fact in reality, none of them, with their current jobs, could ever, ever, ever afford those apartments in New York City, in those areas.

The show highlights the lives of many people in parts of Brooklyn and the Lower parts of Manhatten. What is shown in that show, is not far from the truth at all. The main difference is, both those areas are filled, I would say, 90 percent. With people who have everything paid for by their parents. Their expensive apartment, travel, clothes. Many work in very "hipster" style jobs, super low paying, but it makes no difference to them, because it's a free ride anyway. They have the money to go out every night, to spend $60 per meal. When I was 22 (not much older now), I didn't have $3500 to rent those apartments, or parents who had that type of money to hand me. That is literally, what life is like there.

on the other hand. New York City lives it. They encourage wealthy families to ship their hipster kids off to the awful parts of NYC. Since in 5 or so years, with the huge amount of money flowing into those neighborhoods, the rent skyrockets, business moves in and all the poor people are forced to relocate. Which, makes it not trendy anymore.

Williamsburg in Brooky is going through this right now. It was once the mecca of hipster. You would see people with mustaches walking around in shiny purple spandex and a snorkel(and still do). However, since the rich kids have moved in, and dumped their thousands upon thousands of dollars all over the place, Williamsburg is starting to become a much nicer area of Brooklyn. So, the hipster are venturing off to other parts of New york that are more "slumy". It's trendy to act poor, but not be. It's so odd. it's a foreign world.
 
I think the only character who's explicitly cut off from their parent's money is Lena's. We don't really know a lot about where the others get their money, but I've always assumed they were probably supported.
 
Watching s2e1, I realized that Marnie's character reminded me of Kristen Wiig's character in "Bridesmaids" -- especially when she's talking to Charlie at the party -- she's putting up a facade, saying things she doesn't really mean, and she's sabotaging her own happiness via her ego.

I guess that's an Apatow-ism, but I enjoy that kind of portrayal. (And I can understand if other people hate it)

This was how I saw it. Marnie is lying to everyone bar maybe Hannah. She is trying to make it look like she is confident and successful but in truth she is a wreck. Also she has a massive ego that wont allow her to show weakness. She is feeding her ego when she goes to Charlies house to sleep.

That said #TeamMarnie
 
This was how I saw it. Marnie is lying to everyone bar maybe Hannah. She is trying to make it look like she is confident and successful but in truth she is a wreck. Also she has a massive ego that wont allow her to show weakness. She is feeding her ego when she goes to Charlies house to sleep.

That said #TeamMarnie

I see I've found another gaffer with a penchant for trouble.

Yes, #TeamMarnie über alles.
 
I think the Marnie scene had to be intentional trolling after how many people were bitching that Hannah is the only one who takes her clothes off. Then again I would completely buy that character covering herself up like that given how she's been portrayed so far.
 
I think the Marnie scene had to be intentional trolling after how many people were bitching that Hannah is the only one who takes her clothes off. Then again I would completely buy that character covering herself up like that given how she's been portrayed so far.

Except she didn't really take her clothes off. Blatantly coverin your tits with your arms is so obvious and fake.
 
I think the Marnie scene had to be intentional trolling after how many people were bitching that Hannah is the only one who takes her clothes off. Then again I would completely buy that character covering herself up like that given how she's been portrayed so far.

agreed. I completely bought it lol Marnie would cover her boobs.
 
Okay, so I'm fully caught up, because hey, what the hell.

This show is frustrating because it shows occasional glimpses of poignancy but then ruins it all by making its characters act completely ridiculous for no apparent reason. It takes one step forward, then another back, and then another forward, and then one sideways.

It all just ends up feeling like a teen girl's shallow New York fantasy, complete with the ups and the downs and the oh-my-gosh-my-life-is-such-a-glorious-struggle.

I'll probably stick through this season, though. It's not completely devoid of charm.
 
New episode tonight:
I Get Ideas

Hannah gets some attention from Adam; Elijah questions his sexuality; Marnie makes a career compromise; Jessa revels in married life; Elijah and Marnie harbor a secret.
 
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