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Gizmodo gets its hands on the new iPhone prototype

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bearcatjosh said:
I haven't followed the iPhone carrier situation closely as of late, but is there any chance that the new iPhone (or some iPhone) will end up on Verizon or T-Mobile (or even Sprint)?
its a rumored to come to Verizon
 
neojubei said:
Don't you mean android? WP7 is going to have an uphill battle with other smartphones before they try to touch iphone.
no, I personally don't believe in Android yet. I know it's out there, but I'm not convinced it's up for the fight. It looks like an also-ran, and tbh, a true competitor can't win by doing things that look like what Apple already has done with more style. a true competitor will have to do *their own thing* and do that shit well. to me, that's blackberry and Microsoft. and of those 2, only Microsoft is interested in broad adoption and has an OS and chipset specs powerful enough to create a unique, different and worthy alternative experience.

the brilliance comes in how different, yet equally compelling the experiences are. and if MS and their developers can do it right, it'll be a fantastic option. unfortunately, the front-facing camera sold me on the new iPhone, I think. I expect that to also be on a fall/winter revision to the iPad as well.
 
Really unimpressed. The screen isn't bigger, but actually a little smaller? Really?

The back looks nice though.

Any of the interesting things it's doing has been done, from the front facing camera (Evo) to the noise cancellation mics (Nexus, Droid). I'm not seeing much innovation here, which is the same way I felt about Os4. It's all catch up now.

And now there's "linking contacts" in the phonebook for Facebook integration. We get it Apple, you like to steal Android's ideas and then sue when they do anything close to something you did, like an unlock screen. That makes a lot of sense.

Dreams-Visions said:
no, I personally don't believe in Android yet. I know it's out there, but I'm not convinced it's up for the fight. It looks like an also-ran, and tbh, a true competitor can't win by doing things that look like what Apple already has done with more style. a true competitor will have to do *their own thing* and do that shit well..

:lol
Literally everything you see coming from Apple lately is copied from Android, both on hardware and software side. Android has more things different than iPhone OS than the same. You make no sense. Android shows contact's facebook pictures and statuses in texting, for example. That's an original idea that Apple is now copying. Android has had folders since forever. Android is more than an iPhone OS clone, and iPhone has been the OS that's shockingly become familiar and safe, with webOS and Android trying new ideas, and Apple taking the ideas they like from them.
 
gregor7777 said:
Sooooo intentional. :lol

Apple best kept secrets are given to an employee to take out to a bar?

It's cool though, I like that kind of marketing.

Employees in the field with prototype smartphones is nothing new. Getting drunk and losing it doesn't happen very often, but is completely realistic.
 
Pctx said:
The Nexus is a joke and I hope Google or HTC comes out with a new hardware release of it or a successor and put that dog out to pasture. god what an awful experience with that pos.

Man...you are incredibly bitter.
 
gcubed said:
i dont believe thats right, they have an early upgrade available, but its 299/399... so you dont have to pay full retail, but its still quite hefty

He's been with them a few months, no early upgrade.

From AT&T's site.

For those who are not eligible for an early upgrade or who wish to buy iPhone as a gift, the prices are $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB).
 
Technosteve said:
why would apple give it to gizmodo? they are the B tier technology site. In all of apple's history have they given up there new unreleased units? If that is final design you know how much money the accessory market would pay to have that unit. They would have two months head start in getting products out before everyone else.

If that is the final design, it reminds me very much of a Sony Ericisson phone. If the ceramic patent from daring fireball is true, then the entire enclosure is glass/ceramic and the aluminum band is what's holding the electronics in. It would make the unit heavier and ridged. I wonder how good heat dissipation would be, since the ceramic can either dissipate or insulate.

It reminds me of an SE phone as well.

Not to say it's bad but I expect something a bit more special from an iPhone. Even the original 2G looks and feels better than anything else out there (arguably better than the 3G and GS).

This seems like a step down, a cost cutting mass production model, much like the Metal Gear Rex Vs Ray...
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Double resolution. It's nearly iPad resolution and catches up with new Android phones.

I'm not sure I understand why this needs to happen. It seems like there's a certain point where cramming a higher resolution in such a small space gives you so little back that it's not worthwhile. I've never felt my iPhone looks low res or needed a higher res screen. Have any of the rest of you? I'm seeing companies trying to cram high res screens in such a small space and just can't understand why because in the end, it seems like you're taking a hit in performance for little visual gain. I'd rather have better performance and battery life than an increase in res that I might not even notice unless I did a side by side comparison.
 
tokkun said:
Unless they updated the article since I read it, they didn't know what resolution it was other than 'seems sharper than the existing iPhone' and the comment about 960x640 was just a mention of a previous rumor.
Hopefully the fillrate is drastically increased, I want complicated shading effects!
 
Blu_LED said:
Why don't they turn it on, or show it turned on? I'm assuming it's the same OS?

lawblob said:
The Gizmodo post I saw on Saturday said it was running a new OS. But they also said the phone "died" and they couldn't turn it back on, or something.... I don't know, it does sound kind of fishy.

Does nobody ever read sources? Apple remotely killed the OS. That's a common safeguard against prototype leaks.
 
So wait, doesnt this micro-SIM mean that its essentially locked to ATT as there the only ones using the standard? Or do all the carriers have stockpiles of microSIMs we've never seen/heard about?
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
Man...you are incredibly bitter.
Yup--- and since I got my 3GS back in Jan.... never been happier.

alternade said:
So wait, doesnt this micro-SIM mean that its essentially locked to ATT as there the only ones using the standard? Or do all the carriers have stockpiles of microSIMs we've never seen/heard about?

My guess... we'll see 4G iPhone on AT&T... Verizon will get CDMA 3GS.
 
Marty Chinn said:
I'm not sure I understand why this needs to happen. It seems like there's a certain point where cramming a higher resolution in such a small space gives you so little back that it's not worthwhile. I've never felt my iPhone looks low res or needed a higher res screen. Have any of the rest of you? I'm seeing companies trying to cram high res screens in such a small space and just can't understand why because in the end, it seems like you're taking a hit in performance for little visual gain. I'd rather have better performance and battery life than an increase in res that I might not even notice unless I did a side by side comparison.

The higher the DPI, the better. It's better for reading text and I hate it, when I can count the pixels of my display. :lol It's probably the only thing I really love about my Touch Diamond. 640x 480 @ 2.8" is awesome.
 
I want double the pixel density, so small text will be very crisp and legible. Some filter or coating that makes the screen visible in daylight. The back of the phone has to remain cool even if the phone is maxing out the cpu. Biggest gripe i have against my 3Gs is that it gets to damn hot playing GTA chinatown wars. I have a silicon jacket on it so i have a better grip on it, but it makes it thicker and not very slim fitting in my pocket. If they use metal or ceramic/glass as the backing material i want that shit to have a rough finish. My sweaty hands makes everything slippery. Physical button for the camera shutter and faster autofocus.

And i want it in colbalt blue
 
Contemplating this if it had a bigger screen. After using my nexus 3.5 seems small. How could they go smaller, that makes no sense at all.
 
Marty Chinn said:
I'm not sure I understand why this needs to happen. It seems like there's a certain point where cramming a higher resolution in such a small space gives you so little back that it's not worthwhile. I've never felt my iPhone looks low res or needed a higher res screen. Have any of the rest of you? I'm seeing companies trying to cram high res screens in such a small space and just can't understand why because in the end, it seems like you're taking a hit in performance for little visual gain. I'd rather have better performance and battery life than an increase in res that I might not even notice unless I did a side by side comparison.


yeah, I’ve never had an issue with the pixel density of the iPhone. it’s always been super sharp.

the iPad is a bit weaker and I notice some fuzzing around edges of some fonts, especially when bolded. I think the iPad would need a resolution upgrade moreso than the iPhone.

but, hey, if it ends up not impacting performance, maybe the higher res will make sense with other apps or games.

probably one of those things you gotta see with your own eyes to get.
 
jonnybryce said:
:lol
Literally everything you see coming from Apple lately is copied from Android, both on hardware and software side. Android has more things different than iPhone OS than the same. You make no sense. Android shows contact's facebook pictures and statuses in texting, for example. That's an original idea that Apple is now copying. Android has had folders since forever. Android is more than an iPhone OS clone, and iPhone has been the OS that's shockingly become familiar and safe, with webOS and Android trying new ideas, and Apple taking the ideas they like from them.
unfortunately, perception is reality. perception is that where it counts, in the largest, most obvious places, it's an also-ran.

later down the line, if you find yourself wondering why it just can't seem to gain significant traction, know it was because at its core, it appears and functions almost identically to the iPhone, with some nice upgraded parts here and there, as you properly sighted.

But don't let my apathy towards Android on a phone stop you from enjoying yours. it's not that there's anything wrong with the products. it's just that without the UI being able to really differentiate itself in heavy, meaningful ways (lockscreen is nice, video backgrounds are cool, though) like the Win 7 platform does....as hardware parity becomes more of a reality, Droid won't "do" much that the iPhone won't do arguably better. Except flash, I guess.

The real competitor is Win 7 Phone. Something completely different, enriching, and rewarding. It's really the only thing that's making me want to wait and see before jumping on another iPhone. Android...not so much.

But if you enjoy it, by all means. Nothing wrong with the platform or the phones.
 
brotkasten said:
The higher the DPI, the better. It's better for reading text and I hate it, when I can count the pixels of my display. :lol It's probably the only thing I really love about my Touch Diamond. 640x 480 @ 2.8" is awesome.
indeed. anyone who's used a Droid can testify to the value of a high resolution. Droid screens look amazing. Never used a Nexus one, so I can't speak on it...but the Droid screen is to die for.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
no, I personally don't believe in Android yet. I know it's out there, but I'm not convinced it's up for the fight. It looks like an also-ran, and tbh, a true competitor can't win by doing things that look like what Apple already has done with more style. a true competitor will have to do *their own thing* and do that shit well. to me, that's blackberry and Microsoft. and of those 2, only Microsoft is interested in broad adoption and has an OS and chipset specs powerful enough to create a unique, different and worthy alternative experience.

the brilliance comes in how different, yet equally compelling the experiences are. and if MS and their developers can do it right, it'll be a fantastic option. unfortunately, the front-facing camera sold me on the new iPhone, I think. I expect that to also be on a fall/winter revision to the iPad as well.

you really dont follow the phone space much do you?
 
Some people don't understand that others will take freedom to third-party apps and more customization over a sleek but closed experience.

There's room for both of us, guys.
 
jonnybryce said:
Really unimpressed. The screen isn't bigger, but actually a little smaller? Really?

Look at the photos. The screen might be smaller, but barely so. You really can't tell a difference just looking at it. It's probably because whatever resolution screen Apple chose, it only came in a certain size, which turns out to be a tiny bit smaller:

500x_comp8.jpg


jonnybryce said:
Literally everything you see coming from Apple lately is copied from Android, both on hardware and software side. Android has more things different than iPhone OS than the same. You make no sense. Android shows contact's facebook pictures and statuses in texting, for example. That's an original idea that Apple is now copying. Android has had folders since forever. Android is more than an iPhone OS clone, and iPhone has been the OS that's shockingly become familiar and safe, with webOS and Android trying new ideas, and Apple taking the ideas they like from them.

So you go on about Android being different (and better) and you're two examples are Facebook statuses on texts and folders. Cool.
 
I'm stoked.. Buyin this for sure. I'm almost at my 2 year anniversary of a 3 year contract with Fido in Canada.. Hopefully I can upgrade.
 
BocoDragon said:
I'm stoked.. Buyin this for sure. I'm almost at my 2 year anniversary of a 3 year contract with Fido in Canada.. Hopefully I can upgrade.


as I understand it, you would be eligible for upgrade pricing (likely 199/299) after around 2.5 years are done with the 3 year contract.

I’m in a similar situation. I’m still within the 3 year contract I signed for the original 3G back in July almost 2 years ago.

So, based on stuff I’ve read on Howard Forums, I would be eligible for a hardware upgrade sometime this winter.

...at which point, I would probably end up just waiting till next summer when the new model comes out :lol
 
Talon- said:
Some people don't understand that others will take freedom to third-party apps and more customization over a sleek but closed experience.

There's room for both of us, guys.
I think everyone understands that. The confusion starts when the conversation implies importance to these details that the public doesn't really care about. We'd all be using Linux on homemade PCs if it mattered.
 
Futureman said:
Look at the photos. The screen might be smaller, but barely so. You really can't tell a difference just looking at it. It's probably because whatever resolution screen Apple chose, it only came in a certain size, which turns out to be a tiny bit smaller:

500x_comp8.jpg




So you go on about Android being different (and better) and you're two examples are Facebook statuses on texts and folders. Cool.

Not to take anything away from Android because I love my N1 but I was able to sync Facebook profiles to my contacts on my HTC Touch Pro. Thats WinMo 6.5 folks.
 
Futureman said:
So you go on about Android being different (and better) and you're two examples are Facebook statuses on texts and folders. Cool.

Right cause his point was to list every single difference between the iphone and the android os's....
 
sableholic said:
Right cause his point was to list every single difference between the iphone and the android os's....

Well if he's going on and on about how Android is more different than similar to the iPhone, you'd think it'd be nice if he gave ONE example, which he didn't.

I'm siding with the camp that these phones are so damn similar now that it really isn't that big of a deal who you go with. Similar to the Windows/OS X debate. I used to praise OS X to people, but honestly, Windows has matured to a point where they you can't go wrong with either.
 
LCfiner said:
as I understand it, you would be eligible for upgrade pricing (likely 199/299) after around 2.5 years are done with the 3 year contract.

I’m in a similar situation. I’m still within the 3 year contract I signed for the original 3G back in July almost 2 years ago.

So, based on stuff I’ve read on Howard Forums, I would be eligible for a hardware upgrade sometime this winter.

...at which point, I would probably end up just waiting till next summer when the new model comes out :lol

Same here :D
 
LCfiner said:
as I understand it, you would be eligible for upgrade pricing (likely 199/299) after around 2.5 years are done with the 3 year contract.

I’m in a similar situation. I’m still within the 3 year contract I signed for the original 3G back in July almost 2 years ago.

So, based on stuff I’ve read on Howard Forums, I would be eligible for a hardware upgrade sometime this winter.

...at which point, I would probably end up just waiting till next summer when the new model comes out :lol
Good point.. :P

it's not just the urge for new tech personally.. My iPhone 3G screen is cracked and is generally an all around piece of shit now. I'm not wasting a cent on it to get it fixed either...
 
CharlieDigital said:
Why are you guys giving Gizmodo page views?

oh for the love of god, you guys bitch about IGN, Kotaku, CNN and apperantly Gizmodo is on the shit list as well. Is there a fucking site out there that you guys dont hate?
 
Futureman said:
Well if he's going on and on about how Android is more different than similar to the iPhone, you'd think it'd be nice if he gave ONE example, which he didn't.

I'm siding with the camp that these phones are so damn similar now that it really isn't that big of a deal who you go with. Similar to the Windows/OS X debate. I used to praise OS X to people, but honestly, Windows has matured to a point where they you can't go wrong with either.

eh, as an android/iphone household, the iphone os is still more "refined", and the gaming is leaps and bounds better.
 
Anticitizen One said:
oh for the love of god, you guys bitch about IGN, Kotaku, CNN and apperantly Gizmodo is on the shit list as well. Is there a fucking site out there that you guys dont hate?
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The prototype looks lovely. I do wonder if the seams will remain in the final design (just seems very unlike Apple to have them there) but it's not a deal breaker either way. Nice to see the Apple haters are out in full force to decry a product that half of them are going to end up buying anyway.

Pctx said:
My guess... we'll see 4G iPhone on AT&T... Verizon will get CDMA 3GS.

That's spiteful and hilarious if true.
 
esquire said:
The prototype looks lovely. I do wonder if the seams will remain in the final design (just seems very unlike Apple to have them there) but it's not a deal breaker either way. Nice to see the Apple haters are out in full force to decry a product that half of them are going to end up buying anyway.



That's spiteful and hilarious if true.
The fact that it has mini-sim is a good indication that Apple isn't leaving AT&T anytime soon.
 
Futureman said:
Look at the photos. The screen might be smaller, but barely so. You really can't tell a difference just looking at it. It's probably because whatever resolution screen Apple chose, it only came in a certain size, which turns out to be a tiny bit smaller:

It doesn't look much smaller at all. Maybe 3.4" diagonal instead of 3.5"? I personally want a 4.0" iPhone but if this has a 960x640 screen, I might finally buy one.
 
Zzoram said:
It doesn't look much smaller at all. Maybe 3.4" diagonal instead of 3.5"? I personally want a 4.0" iPhone but if this has a 960x640 screen, I might finally buy one.

ummm, its over half an inch smaller i believe

edit... nevermind, that appeared to be from a verizon iphone rumor
 
Wii said:
960x640 display? :/
I don't wanna cater to two resolutions
Then don't. Since it is exactly double the resolution and approximately the same size screen it should scale fine. Just don't be surprised if your app starts to look dated against the competition.
 
Currently a Verizon customer. It's either this phone on ATT or the Verizon N1 for me...but right now I'm leaning towards the iPhone. Better user experience and N1 has too many quirky software/hw issues that is scaring me away.
 
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