GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Quite the spin from my personal beer holder
Stadia has been on the market for over 1000 days and I started the the thread 1 day before it closed down.
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Stadia has been on the market for over 1000 days and I started the the thread 1 day before it closed down.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Yep... all seven of em!...
Not true at all.And nothing of value was lost
Stadia customers will not get a refund for any games they bought. So not only do they lose the money they paid for the games, they can't even play the games anymore.
If anything, this whole experience will be a scathing indictment on streaming services selling full-priced games. As a business model, that is now stone-cold dead. Customers will not be fooled after this debacle.
Stadia should have considered a streaming game rental service business model, where gamers pay a small sum to rent a game for 3-5 days, or a 30-day rolling subscription for the big MP games. That may have generated more revenue for them overall even will a small userbase.
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Captain Toad
Banned
REALLY??? Breaking news!
Badlucktroll
Member
Haggard
Banned
Ah didn't see that.
Thread can be closed then.
Iced Arcade
Member
which could/would have been if xbox and sony didn't start acquiring studios/publishers the last couple years.
Phil Spencer: "We see Amazon and Google as the main competitors"
As Microsoft continues its shift into game streaming and digital-only, Xbox boss Phil Spencer says PlayStation and Nint…www.gamesindustry.biz
Quezacolt
Member
We all talked about that before, how streaming isn't good, how when the service eventually goes out youmlose everything, because nothing was ever yours to begin with, and yet, there were still people saying this was the future of gaming and the second coming of christ.
Sucks that they lost their money, but i hope this does become a cautionary tale for gamers and publishers.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
This is literally the opposite of what Google promises in their press release. All hardware purchases made directly through the Google store will be refunded. All game and DLC purchases (since Stadia launched) will be refunded. It seems the only thing they're not refunding is Stadia Pro membership fees.
SportsFan581
Member
I always pay my debts.
Enjoy my new avatar
The toasted Stadia logo is a nice touch.
You switching it out for Luna next?
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
As a final nail in the coffin, I'd love to see someone pursue a class action against Google for this practice.
I think litigating the practice of selling full-priced games on a service, where the sold games evaporate when the servers are switched off, would be very interesting to follow.
I'd love to see how the courts might address a situation like that and if the practice of selling service content as products can be defensible legally.
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Didn't catch that they're actually refunding the bought games too. Makes sense, as I'm guessing they wouldn't want it tested in the courts if they attempted not refunding the games.
This whole project was basically a huge money sink for Google.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
GFN/Luna lite (via Prime) would be great but Luna is not in europe yet.The toasted Stadia logo is a nice touch.
You switching it out for Luna next?
names are for friends
Member
lmfao. We all knew it was coming but I'm glad to see Google is out.
SportsFan581
Member
Unlikely with the refunds, but yeah I don't like the idea of making one-time purchases that are associated with recurring costs. Better for cloud streaming to be offered as a recurring service with games being true digital purchases that can be utilized outside the cloud service (or just included as a library with the service). At that point, if the service closes you've only lost access to the service itself and not your content.
I'm not sure how much legal standing there would be, a lot of what ifs. What if steam closed shop, or epic, or playstation or xbox you could say the same thing about your digital purchases. What if Apple suddenly took the digital music store offline, etc.
I Master l
Banned
I can get the controller for 30$ right now, Will they refund me ?
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
That’s like saying book shops should have been better competition with Amazon. Google is a billion dollar company, that was attempting to compete with Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo. They released a platform where you have to pay a monthly subscription fee AND pay for any games you want to own on top of that.
So if you stop paying the subscription. You lose the games that you paid potentially £50 - £60 a pop for. It’s really not hard to understand why this business model was not going to last. Gamepass and dare I say it even PS plus’ different tiers now offer way better value just at a base level. RIP Stadia, at least you tried…. Well you didn’t really.
He's changed his avatar into a turdSo if I understand correctly they will refund all money spent on games? That'd be the right thing to do.
Fat Frog on suicide watch. Please remember there are reasons to live such as XCloud, GFN and PSNow.
Badlucktroll
Member
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Nah, now they pretend that Nintendo and Sony are the true competitors again so that they are 3rd.Yep, Onlive is dead, PS Now is dead, Stadia is dead but Google and Amazon are the real competitors in the gaming industry, not Playstation or Nintendo
Some people still repeat that horseshit in acquisitions threads
SLB1904
Banned
ill slap the first who complains. they better cry quietly because we warned them.
Jimmy_liv
Member
The sad thing will be the job losses.
I feel for anyone who's put their heart into this and belived in their product.
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Kilau
Member
RoadHazard
Gold Member
16GB is more than 16GB?
newtypepilot
Member
no sympathy for anyone who actually paid for this. This was heavily criticized before it was even launched for its terrible business model that provides no value to the customer. It's essentially paying a subscription for the privilege of paying full price to rent games.
GHG
Gold Member
The toasted Stadia logo is a nice touch.
You switching it out for Luna next?
Toasted?
That's steaming poo my friend.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I wonder what will happen to Hello Engineer, Gylt, Pac-Man Tunnel Battle, Outcasters, and probably a few other games I'm missing that are all currently Stadia exclusives.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
XSX has 13.5gb and ps5 probably the same available for games.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Do you think Stadia uses 0KB for things like running its OS etc? Like the slide says, it has 16GB total memory, just like the consoles.
SportsFan581
Member
I'm taking it that the Stadia blades have some kind of OS in place as well, makes it hard to make a distinction like that. A good chance that the Stadia blades have split memory pools as well, which could be more limiting since the total number isn't that large (you might only be looking at 8GB HBM2 + 8GB DDR here).
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Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
We don't know, though it being on servers it could be different.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I'm pretty sure it doesn't just run the game straight on the hardware with zero OS overhead.
And does it have any kind of system UI you can access? I've never used it, but that would use up some more memory if so.
But sure, games might have access to a bit more memory than on the consoles. Just not the full 16GB.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Who knows, it's dead anyway now so it won't be having any advantages.
SportsFan581
Member
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I think they had one at launch? Some indie adventure/puzzle game or whatever.