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garath

Member
I can't decide if I can see the light at the end of the tunnel or what.

I have two swords now. Working on the third box. Have about 1250 items left in it. If I run nothing but VH eye, I can get 44 tickets or 22 items per pot and it takes me about 6-7 min to run both eyes.

That means I have 55 pots or so and 5.5 hours to get through this box. If I have do get through the last box in the same manner we're looking at 120 or so pots and about 12 hours of straight grinding.

Ouch.
 

Yaari

Member
I can't decide if I can see the light at the end of the tunnel or what.

I have two swords now. Working on the third box. Have about 1250 items left in it. If I run nothing but VH eye, I can get 44 tickets or 22 items per pot and it takes me about 6-7 min to run both eyes.

That means I have 55 pots or so and 5.5 hours to get through this box. If I have do get through the last box in the same manner we're looking at 120 or so pots and about 12 hours of straight grinding.

Ouch.

? GW isnt ending anytime soon! You'll have plenty of time.
 

Felessan

Member
Finally checked out the casino. What's the best method to get rich fast?
Optimal will be go Poker till 200k and start trying luck on 100k table. When you down to 100k - go back to poker until you are back to 200k.

Poker until 500k, then go do max bets on the 10k bingo table.
10k bingo have around the same speed as poker (poker is more tiring though), but significantly more volatile. And the goal is to consistently go to 100k table as it have much better return (about 1 million per hour of playing).
 

Rixa

Member
Hell (20 meat), rewards as popper role (1 red chest):
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Gizuko

Member
GafCypher guild is doing Hell, starts 6mins from this post.

Ty Rixa, I have been unable to check Discord chat for a while, so your letting us know through here is most welcome.

I can't decide if I can see the light at the end of the tunnel or what.

I have two swords now. Working on the third box. Have about 1250 items left in it. If I run nothing but VH eye, I can get 44 tickets or 22 items per pot and it takes me about 6-7 min to run both eyes.

That means I have 55 pots or so and 5.5 hours to get through this box. If I have do get through the last box in the same manner we're looking at 120 or so pots and about 12 hours of straight grinding.

Ouch.

I'm not sure how Ougi meshes with Rosetta, but you should give strike time a chance, I had to stop midway through this post twice to start more battles, since a full burst OHKOs VH Eye, you might be able to do it this way.
 

h0tp0ck3t

Member
High level players that can one shot low level raids should either be downleveled to the content they are accessing or not allowed to join at all. As a newer player it's really frustrating to join a raid with high health on the boss only to have someone come in and snipe the whole thing from everyone - complete waste of time.

Raiding for me has boiled down to:
1) Is it Yggdrasil or Celeste? No? Mash F5
2) Are there fewer than 5 people in the fight? No? Back to 1
3) Does the boss have more than 75% of it's HP? No? Back to 1
4) Are conditions 1-3 met? Yes? Join and pray to god you can get a hit in time
 

Ultimadrago

Member
It seems that I always get some vague roundabout answer when I ask this, so I guess I'll ask here:

What are the first steps I should take in overhauling my poor (Earth) weapon pool?
 

garath

Member
So if I want to element change the GW sword, this is the first step?

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Bingo is awful.

I have blown over 3.3 million and have only won once on a the 1k table.

I wish I only blew 3.3mil. I was up to 6.6mil. I am now at 800k solely from losses and 60k a day in animas and pots.

I should have stopped at 6mil, bought another anat and just sat on it for a bit buying my daily stuff. :(

It seems that I always get some vague roundabout answer when I ask this, so I guess I'll ask here:

What are the first steps I should take in overhauling my poor (Earth) weapon pool?

It's two fold. First and foremost, check your raid tab when you have full EP and find a yggdrasil omega raid to leech. Get in there quick since they die fast and just get a single hit in. Once in awhile you will get a weapon to drop. Your long term goal is many SSR weapons with damage up skill. The short term is the SR weapons with damage up skill. Limit break some SR weapons as you get more and skill those up to like 4 or 5.

The other thing you need to be doing is working on defeating your own hard version of the yggdrasil. It costs 25 AP and you can do 3 a day. Try to MVP these so you get two red chests. Those have the best chance at the good stuff. Your goal here is more SR weapons and gold and silver animas. The silver animas you can use to create gold animas. Once you have 3 gold animas you can summon your own yggdrasil omega. Just summon it and let other people kill it..it will go fast. You will get 1 red chest for this. That chest has a much higher chance of the coveted SSR weapons you are looking for.

Rinse and repeat all of that. You'll eventually get a weapon pool of all earth weapons with damage up skills on them. A few SR and a few SSR at first and one day in the future, all SSR with skills level 10.
 

Azusa

Member
So if I want to element change the GW sword, this is the first step?

Yes.

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1) you do one upgrade on gw weapon (on your screenshot)
2) you change element of max leveled rusted weapon of the same type as gw weapon.
3) when you upgraded the gw weapon the next step is just to max skill it and use element changed rusted weapon on it.
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
Is there a list anywhere of which rare items I need to keep for my GW weapon? Saw it once but can't find it
 

garath

Member
Yes.

ArYrNY6.png


1) you do one upgrade on gw weapon (on your screenshot)
2) you change element of max leveled rusted weapon of the same type as gw weapon.
3) when you upgraded the gw weapon the next step is just to max skill it and use element changed rusted weapon on it.

Awesome. that's exactly what I needed to know. Man I need a lot more stuff. I wonder if I can do the extreme daily for wind and light. Might be worth a try and an elixer or two.

I see two major bottlenecks. My rusted sword is only 1 star and skilling up an SSR weapon to 10 is daunting.

Edit: this event has been good for fodder St least. I have 21 SR weapons, 4 big crystals and 2 small for fodder. That gets me to 5 at least.
 

MiTYH

Member
... Monsters on break again? I almost did my twitter refresh again haha. Is this an every day thing? If so, for how long?

EDIT: I think I see, 7am-12pm Japan time. That's... a real bummer. I need to grind harder in the mornings...
 

Fishious

Member
Yeah, these time outs are killing me. I'd like to break up grind by putting more time between my sessions, but considering it's only available for maybe half a day in US time zones (accounting for normal day/night life schedule) I guess I've just got to buckle down.
 

draw4wild

Member
Awesome. that's exactly what I needed to know. Man I need a lot more stuff. I wonder if I can do the extreme daily for wind and light. Might be worth a try and an elixer or two.

I see two major bottlenecks. My rusted sword is only 1 star and skilling up an SSR weapon to 10 is daunting.

Edit: this event has been good for fodder St least. I have 21 SR weapons, 4 big crystals and 2 small for fodder. That gets me to 5 at least.

Technically, you could by the SR stones from the casino for 500k each to star the rusted weapon for a total of 1.5million if you're having horrible luck with drops

I don't have anywhere near the certs needed for it since I may get a Bahamut every other day
 

Falk

that puzzling face
... Monsters on break again? I almost did my twitter refresh again haha. Is this an every day thing? If so, for how long?

EDIT: I think I see, 7am-12pm Japan time. That's... a real bummer. I need to grind harder in the mornings...

Considering the nature of some of the playerbase, Cygames would be dealing with potential complaints about health issues without an enforced break.

12am-7am Japan time btw.
 

Ultimadrago

Member
So if I want to element change the GW sword, this is the first step?

ZJB7fiw.jpg




I wish I only blew 3.3mil. I was up to 6.6mil. I am now at 800k solely from losses and 60k a day in animas and pots.

I should have stopped at 6mil, bought another anat and just sat on it for a bit buying my daily stuff. :(



It's two fold. First and foremost, check your raid tab when you have full EP and find a yggdrasil omega raid to leech. Get in there quick since they die fast and just get a single hit in. Once in awhile you will get a weapon to drop. Your long term goal is many SSR weapons with damage up skill. The short term is the SR weapons with damage up skill. Limit break some SR weapons as you get more and skill those up to like 4 or 5.

The other thing you need to be doing is working on defeating your own hard version of the yggdrasil. It costs 25 AP and you can do 3 a day. Try to MVP these so you get two red chests. Those have the best chance at the good stuff. Your goal here is more SR weapons and gold and silver animas. The silver animas you can use to create gold animas. Once you have 3 gold animas you can summon your own yggdrasil omega. Just summon it and let other people kill it..it will go fast. You will get 1 red chest for this. That chest has a much higher chance of the coveted SSR weapons you are looking for.

Rinse and repeat all of that. You'll eventually get a weapon pool of all earth weapons with damage up skills on them. A few SR and a few SSR at first and one day in the future, all SSR with skills level 10.

Oh thank God, a real answer. I'll add this to my agenda. Many thanks.
 

Gizuko

Member
GW definitely needs a bit of work now. Playerbase keeps increasing and they haven't increased the 2400 cap for entering the finals (since last month, at least, and we hit an account milestone since then), nor have they modified the active periods.

I'm guessing the last part is the hardest, but come on. Increasing the cap should have been a given now that there more active players. It's not about "wanting in" but about the fact that keeping a flat ranking is a bit stupid - they should go with a pertentage IMO, I doubt when they first designed GW they went with an arbitrary number but a percentage of the playerbase.
 

MSMrRound

Member
Just got my second GW weapon (aiming for Siete as first GW character)...

*One minute and 80 tickets later*

Oh hey another rainbow prism...wait...so this means I get my 3rd one? I'm okay with that.
 

dennism

Member
So if I want to element change the GW sword, this is the first step?

ZJB7fiw.jpg




I wish I only blew 3.3mil. I was up to 6.6mil. I am now at 800k solely from losses and 60k a day in animas and pots.

I should have stopped at 6mil, bought another anat and just sat on it for a bit buying my daily stuff. :(



It's two fold. First and foremost, check your raid tab when you have full EP and find a yggdrasil omega raid to leech. Get in there quick since they die fast and just get a single hit in. Once in awhile you will get a weapon to drop. Your long term goal is many SSR weapons with damage up skill. The short term is the SR weapons with damage up skill. Limit break some SR weapons as you get more and skill those up to like 4 or 5.

The other thing you need to be doing is working on defeating your own hard version of the yggdrasil. It costs 25 AP and you can do 3 a day. Try to MVP these so you get two red chests. Those have the best chance at the good stuff. Your goal here is more SR weapons and gold and silver animas. The silver animas you can use to create gold animas. Once you have 3 gold animas you can summon your own yggdrasil omega. Just summon it and let other people kill it..it will go fast. You will get 1 red chest for this. That chest has a much higher chance of the coveted SSR weapons you are looking for.

Rinse and repeat all of that. You'll eventually get a weapon pool of all earth weapons with damage up skills on them. A few SR and a few SSR at first and one day in the future, all SSR with skills level 10.

great guide, i still dont know what element i should go for, i have a SSR for earth, light and fire.. the next legend fest will decide
 

Gizuko

Member
Adding to what Garath wrote:

You actually don't want to get all 10 slots filled with Magna weapons (even SSR). There is more info in this guide (weapon optimisation section).

You want to get a mix between Magna, Bahamut (hoard rusted weapons for now, since you can't get the horns needed for evolving them until rank 50) and unknown weapons (collab ones like the SF event ones). Sometimes normal weapons too (like the Gacha ones, and I think the GW ones count as normal too).

Edit: I hate Leviathan Omega. I just got both Altair and Yoda OHKOed by his charge attack, through a 50% damage up and 2 defense up buffs (although I'm not sure Altair's and Charlotta's stack).
 

linkent

Member
What is the reliable way of skilling up a weapon?

Edit: saw that link.
Does it mean that to skill up an SSR aeapon from lvl 1->2, i will need to feed 8R weapon(does element matter?)
Or 8R+2SR?
 

Gizuko

Member
What is the reliable way of skilling up a weapon?

Edit: saw that link.
Does it mean that to skill up an SSR aeapon from lvl 1->2, i will need to feed 8R weapon(does element matter?)
Or 8R+2SR?

I actually have never thought about matching element when using SLvl fodder, so I'm not sure. It's easy to test though.

As for the latter question, it's 8R or 2SR.
 

Felessan

Member
What is the reliable way of skilling up a weapon?

Edit: saw that link.
Does it mean that to skill up an SSR aeapon from lvl 1->2, i will need to feed 8R weapon(does element matter?)
Or 8R+2SR?
Element doesn't matter and you need R weapons with skill (for example all R weapons from event draw always no-skill and thus only exp-fodder).
Casino also helps as you can buy quite a lot skillup stones there and they reset monthly.
 

garath

Member
Element doesn't matter and you need R weapons with skill (for example all R weapons from event draw always no-skill and thus only exp-fodder).
Casino also helps as you can buy quite a lot skillup stones there and they reset monthly.

The main source of skill up fodder will probably be SRs from raids. On a non-crazy-event day I'll run at least 6-9 hard raids with my B team, starting with tiamat since I'm wind and need the animas then to earth since that's easiest then to water then to fire. On a good day I'll do all 4, 3 times each. If you can keep that up you'll start to see a lot of SR weapons and you'll get a lot of animas to summon the omega raids and see even more SR weapons. SSR weapons you don't need can also be fodder but I haven't gotten to that point yet. It's gold. I can't bring myself to use it as fodder ;)

B team running it is important because you also want the renown pendants and you get bonuses for doing raids with R and SR characters. So my B team is an SSR Petra for support then an R and an SR unit. I also have a suicide squad during assault time where I try to leech a raid and do just enough damage to get the bonus points. Every 5000 renown buys you another SSR weapon of your choosing.

I really just started doing that myself. Didn't realize how quickly the R and SR bonus adds up or that I could even do the hard raids solo efficiently with crappy units. Turns out I can. :)
 

Gizuko

Member
On the topic of R and SR magna leeching, if you run dark fencer you can cast Mist and Gravity and have just about enough honors. I always carry a raid-wide buff on the extra slot, in case either debuff misses. Friend's summon also helps.

No attacking thus no risk, but you still get the loot and the emblems.
 
On the topic of R and SR magna leeching, if you run dark fencer you can cast Mist and Gravity and have just about enough honors. I always carry a raid-wide buff on the extra slot, in case either debuff misses. Friend's summon also helps.

No attacking thus no risk, but you still get the loot and the emblems.

after enough practice, you can tell when its fine to attack the boss and when its not
like don't attack colossus after he's down a certain amount of HP otherwise he would DIMENSION SLASH somebody
or don't attack Chevalier unless you are ready to dispel it
pay attention if Levi has reflect up otherwise you end up killing yourself
etc, etc

you could also load up with characters that have attacking skills, use them all and that should net you enough honors
 

Felessan

Member
The main source of skill up fodder will probably be SRs from raids. On a non-crazy-event day I'll run at least 6-9 hard raids with my B team, starting with tiamat since I'm wind and need the animas then to earth since that's easiest then to water then to fire. On a good day I'll do all 4, 3 times each. If you can keep that up you'll start to see a lot of SR weapons and you'll get a lot of animas to summon the omega raids and see even more SR weapons. SSR weapons you don't need can also be fodder but I haven't gotten to that point yet. It's gold. I can't bring myself to use it as fodder ;)
I don't bother with hard raids - 12 hard raids without 1/2 event is 300 AP = 25 hours worth of AP restoration. I do just omegas off animas I bought at casino. Especially now when I really want to grab MLB bow from GW, and it will cost me significant number of 1/2 AP pots.
I don't argue that SR weapons will eventually be a fodder, I use them too quite often. Stones just adds quantity and variety, and there are quite a lot of them in casino - monthly limit is at equivalent of 30 SR weapons (for 3 million though).
 

garath

Member
I don't bother with hard raids - 12 hard raids without 1/2 event is 300 AP = 25 hours worth of AP restoration. I do just omegas off animas I bought at casino. Especially now when I really want to grab MLB bow from GW, and it will cost me significant number of 1/2 AP pots.
I don't argue that SR weapons will eventually be a fodder, I use them too quite often. Stones just adds quantity and variety, and there are quite a lot of them in casino - monthly limit is at equivalent of 30 SR weapons (for 3 million though).

The 5 AP pots you can get from the casino for 15k chips will cover the AP cost of 10 hard raids even at full AP. That will net you gold animas and SR weapons on a good day. You need those gold animas not only for omega raids but also to limit break your characters. Even more important, those hard raids yield 220 renown pendants doing them with a team of 1 R and 1 SR. That means a bonus SSR every 22 days give or take just from those hard raids. You can't progress very fast without tapping multiple forms of resources in this game. To put it in perspective, to get to slvl10 for an SSR weapon you will need 90 SR weapons or the equivalent.

That said, I don't practice what I preach. I buy the AP pots and tiamat animas daily from the despised casino (I hate the thing) and I usually only do about 6 hard raids. I don't have enough time to grind them all. But I do what I can.

Maybe if I hit that super bingo I can retire some of the grind lol.
 

draw4wild

Member
It's really 18 hard raids a day if you count dark and light. I try to get 2500 points total a week so I can but a weapon 2x a month. That's 1000 from R/SR bonuses and 1500 from doing the fights. Minus the few I get from doing omegas and I pretty much need to do 100 of the hard fights. If you do 2000 a week you can buy 2 every 5 weeks but it would make the hard raid requirement much less demanding

It's time consuming but when it's not an event running there's not much else to use AP on, plus as we get stronger these raids will eventually be one shot
 

Gizuko

Member
after enough practice, you can tell when its fine to attack the boss and when its not
like don't attack colossus after he's down a certain amount of HP otherwise he would DIMENSION SLASH somebody
or don't attack Chevalier unless you are ready to dispel it
pay attention if Levi has reflect up otherwise you end up killing yourself
etc, etc

you could also load up with characters that have attacking skills, use them all and that should net you enough honors

This is the stuff of nightmares. Once >5 players have joined it's so random I have developed a fear of attacking in omegas. And since I mostly leech off Levi omegas, I only debuff. I do use attacking SR once I'm R-capped though.


On a different topic: start dash just came back, and I'm not sure whether I should bite or not - nor which character to pick.

On the one hand, my party is mostly complete, so I'd be getting a water SSR only to either bench him or bench one of my current ones (or pitch in once Yoda dies). On the other hand I rely too much on Yoda's ougi.

My current setup is: Lvl80 Yoda, Lvl82 Charlotta and lvl70 Altair, with lv60-70 Societte and lv60 SR Catalina as subs. I use either DF with 0 star SSR Levi dagger or HSaber w/ Max level SR Levi spear.

This is my weapon pool. It's a bit irrelevant though, so I'm only linking to it.

Right now, I want to keep Charlotta, since I max uncapped her a couple of days ago and would feel bad benching her. Then there's Altair who is the cornerstone of most water teams, so it's a bit silly. The last option is using my new SSR as a replacement for Yoda, once he aggroes everything and dies. To that extent I have 3 options, IMO:

1.- Catalina: an over-all solid SSR, that would let me build a beefy team. Means I won't have an attacking character, and will probably have to use an attacking avatar (although I guess SStar is also viable in this setup).

2.- Lancelot: would bring some damage to a team full of "balanced" characters (although Charlotta looks like an off-tank to me).

3.- Riruru: would eventually let me bench Charlotta, once she has her +5% Charge at the start of battle ability, and buff Yoda and Altair.

My personal favourite is Silva, though, but I have read she hits the damage cap fairly easy and not having DA/TA buffs hurt her - although I'll eventually get my water gw harp, I don't know if it will be anytime soon, so I'll hold off and hope I pull her eventually.

Help me out a bit here :<
 

garath

Member
My start dash is back too. I think my only use is starting a new team so I may pass for now. Birdman would be helpful but I'll get siete....... Eventually. Don't want to spend $30 just to bench him in a few months. Or do I? Might really help my team.

Rosetta
Petra
Lennah/Metera (I swap based on if I need healing or not)

I'd be tempted to get Altair (I think that's his name) to complement my Lancelot and start working on water. But seems a bit silly to work on a second team. Even if it does fill a gap when I'm faced with fire. My wind team doesn't do so hot.
 

draw4wild

Member
Dear god, I tried doing the fate episode to unlock Amira's fifth star. I have to fight a level 75 proto Bahamut who just destroyed me, Me weapon pool is so far away from being able to beat this guy. Are all the other 5 star unlocks this hard?
 

Yaari

Member
Dear god, I tried doing the fate episode to unlock Amira's fifth star. I have to fight a level 75 proto Bahamut who just destroyed me, Me weapon pool is so far away from being able to beat this guy. Are all the other 5 star unlocks this hard?

Nah thats the hardest. I used 5 Elixir to beat that. Maybe not the best idea but I didn't want to wait 3 months until I obtained the weapon pool to do it the normal way. Leveling her to 100 is shitty enough as it is.
 

Felessan

Member
The 5 AP pots you can get from the casino for 15k chips will cover the AP cost of 10 hard raids even at full AP. That will net you gold animas and SR weapons on a good day. You need those gold animas not only for omega raids but also to limit break your characters. Even more important, those hard raids yield 220 renown pendants doing them with a team of 1 R and 1 SR. That means a bonus SSR every 22 days give or take just from those hard raids. You can't progress very fast without tapping multiple forms of resources in this game. To put it in perspective, to get to slvl10 for an SSR weapon you will need 90 SR weapons or the equivalent.

That said, I don't practice what I preach. I buy the AP pots and tiamat animas daily from the despised casino (I hate the thing) and I usually only do about 6 hard raids. I don't have enough time to grind them all. But I do what I can.

Maybe if I hit that super bingo I can retire some of the grind lol.
I don't think you should explain this to me (I am almost at getting Cagliostro to her 5th star). It's all depends on priorities and available resources. For example I have 25 million chips on me, it's change some things. 100k bingo is highly profitable (expected return of 1 million per hour ignoring superbingo, 2.5 million including it, 55 hours of playing bingo is expected average time to get superbingo), just very volatile and require a lot of patience.
5 AP potions are actually 5 Omega raids, you can get animas for them directly from casino (300k each day). They still will provide you with SR fodder (from my experience - even at better rate than Hard raids), but now they have a chance for SSR weapon.
My point is that if you have resources from casino (and those are not that hard to get, frustrating sometimes, but not really hard) - you should also get stones from there. As it is a good addition to other sources of skillup fodder.
 

Ultimadrago

Member
My Start Dash three...

I think I'm going SSR Eugen as he's the only Limited on that I have interest in mechanically speaking. I mean, it could be a while if he ever publicly shows up again (if ever). Even if it were a guarantee, I don't see why I would wait when he's one of the best ougi supports on Earth's team.
 

Gizuko

Member
My Start Dash three...

I think I'm going SSR Eugen as he's the only Limited on that I have interest in mechanically speaking. I mean, it could be a while if he ever publicly shows up again (if ever). Even if it were a guarantee, I don't see why I would wait when he's one of the best ougi supports on Earth's team.

I might be wrong, but I think Eugen comes back every legfest.
 
remember all you folks getting start dash again

everyone is predicting a legfes to happen when the current gatcha event ends, so like tomorrow or on the 29th

since you have seven days after buying it to use it, you can always wait until you pull at legfes to see what you get

i don't remember how long reoccuring start dash lasts for (a few days, a week?) so waiting until the last day isn't a bad idea
 

Yaari

Member
Does he really? Well, in that case he's still the best Earth option on the list for me to pickup. Thanks for the info!

He's still a limited unit. There's always the chance of picking up dupes. I dont know what other units you consider but Eugen rates pretty highly. That said I dont know if hes replaced by GW characters, I think he compliments them.
 
48h :<

It might be enough though. Still, isn't legfest supposed to be after GW? I thought they couldn't overlap.

well the current gatcha is ending tonight so some people might have enough time to wait and see

He's still a limited unit. There's always the chance of picking up dupes. I dont know what other units you consider but Eugen rates pretty highly. That said I dont know if hes replaced by GW characters, I think he compliments them.

i think the kanata guy can do his job of at least giving OUGI to everyone
 

Yaari

Member
I personally dont think we'll see a legfest during GW. I think they save it for after GW during Golden Week. But we'll see.
 
High level players that can one shot low level raids should either be downleveled to the content they are accessing or not allowed to join at all. As a newer player it's really frustrating to join a raid with high health on the boss only to have someone come in and snipe the whole thing from everyone - complete waste of time.

What? I like joining these raids, doing a summon, then doing all my buffs and skills, then just sitting and waiting for someone to come in and one shot or take the boss out in quick speed. No way could I beat a Very Hard or Extreme on my own.
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
RNG gods are favoring me tonight. I got my second and third harp on back to back pulls.

/runs to play the lottery
 
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