Yeah kratos is a bit more detailed but the game is smaller, has less things going on at the same moment, less enemies on screen (and far less detailed), and the secondary characters in gow are a couple of steps behind kratos where horizon is far more even with secondary\tertiary character that looks as detailed as aloy.
If the game is indeed ahead its time their complain would be ignorance. Crysis had and still has a problem with poor CPU usage.All of which can be brutally expensive. Then factor in RT.
Devs can really push things harder in ultra if they wanted to, but then it becomes a “can it run Crysis” game that a lot of pc players will complain about.
Yes, there is one main production team, but the lead designers and lead artists are typically pulled in to new IPs first, and others below them are promoted to the sequels. This happened with Horizon and KZSF, and GOW Ascension and Stig's new IP. Even Amy Henning lost all her best designers and artists who were pulled into Neil's team to finish off TLOU and by the time they came back, the game had suffered in their absence which led to clashes with Neil, Bruce and other designers from TLOU.
Not comparable, Starfield is a fully simulated world and the other isn't.
Yeah why is this looking better than ragnarok? How is the ps4 gonna even run that
I kinda know what you mean, but can you explain better?
Nah…HZD is one of the best looking games last gen from character models to textures and lighting…and no ragnorok doesn’t look as good as HFW.
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Returnal use rtx for audio dude, their "rtx light" are not what you think they are, from df analysis:
Whatever technique they used, it's b-e-a-utiful!
Just a fuckload of particles for the most part
You can downplay it all you want, but you forgot the most important part of the DF analysis:Just a fuckload of particles for the most part
You can downplay it all you want, but you forgot the most important part of the DF analysis:
"Ultimately, the end result with Returnal is a visually rich, absolutely stunning third-person shooter - a genuinely next generation take on the genre."
Maybe.. We can only guess, but that particle system is on another level. I've never seen anything like it. When "bullets" are flying around you, the fog moving along as you move in it and the destruction of elements/enemies - that's something I've never seen Insomniac do.
I was not downplaying, i just said that he has a lot of particles on screenYou can downplay it all you want, but you forgot the most important part of the DF analysis:
"Ultimately, the end result with Returnal is a visually rich, absolutely stunning third-person shooter - a genuinely next generation take on the genre."
I don't think so. In 10 years Returnal will still be remembered as a good-looking game.
I think you're right, but I don't think you can push the PS5 much further in UE4.
If we compare Infamous SS to Returnal, they're about the same resolution, but Returnal is 60fps and has way (wayyy) more particles showing om screen and a lot more action (movement) on screen in general.
Yeah, i can kinda see the GPU being pushed hard in the first level with interactive foliage, bullet hell, destructible environments, and A shit ton of fog everywhere, but other levels are pretty much barren. Ratchet and Demon Souls look better in every aspect and they are 1440p 60 fps.
Again with the resolution...nobody is talking about resolution here, many graphical aspects of returnal are on par if not inferior to some ps4 titles, infamous was better in everything compared to ps3 games, the difference in graphic between inf2 and inf3 is gigantic, the difference between returnal and stuff like tlou2, spidey, metro exoduss, gow, days gone or even stuff like gears 5 is not that much, and it is not a matter of diminishimg returns because games like ratchet or horizon or hellblade 2 look much much better than returnal already.
Listen, you're in the minority of people who's not impressed by Returnal. It's cool, but regardless of what I write, it won't change your mind.
I'm not in the minority as you can see from various topic about graphic where returnal was called in cause, but ok.
I mean he is not wrong tho, outside the particles and fog what is so special about returnals grahpics? the art looks really good but the environments and textures don't look too good tbh.
Outside the last 2 months nobody even talked about Returnals graphics, its a great game and people love it but all of sudden its get called out as one of the best looking games ever.
Yeah, i love the game myself, in terms of pure gameplay it was probably my goty, i have nothing against it.
After all the positive talk and great reviews i think its time to give the game a shot when my PS5 arrives. Normaly not my type of game but i think im gonna enjoy it.
Depends what you're going for. Any photoshoot, any big budget movie - they all use hero lighting. It's a stylistic and creative choice that is outside of the ability of lower budget indie movies/games. Nobody watches a David Fincher movie and complains about how unrealistic the lighting is.
There's a great resource about lighting available online, if you're interested, the shot lighting and lighting principles chapters are good. Basically, it highlights that nothing is ever consistent between shots, and the real art is making it feel consistent while making each individual shot pop as much as possible. If you used the same lights for every camera change, many movies would look shit.
Chapter 8: Shot Lighting - Chris Brejon
CG Cinematography Shot Lighting describes the process and improvements a shot artist has to take care of. Not the most valued task but essential.chrisbrejon.comChapter 6: Lighting Principles - Chris Brejon
CG Cinematography Lighting Principles describe the fundamentals of a good lighting design. Based on personal experience and movies examples.chrisbrejon.com
It's a huge leap forward for games to start including this kind of thing.
The additional power and ease of lighting scenes with new tech means the manpower making a game can be redirected, and we can have a complex character lighting rig where some lights move and fade off as the camera spins, and have them all re-orient themselves with each cut during a cut scene.
for some background, I work in pre-rendered CG/animation, i'm a generalist but lighting is a big area for me.
Topics - on a forum. All professionals who's "analyzed" it, has a more science-based approach, don't you think?
As everyone knows, you can't have it all. What Returnal does - no other game has achieved - and yes I'm talking particle-wise. Quite a genius way to throw all the horsepower at what's important for a bullet-hell shooter. Even DF recognizes the approach. If a games graphics is only scaled in invironment and models, we don't get a fair comparison for the games that choose to be something else.
But everyone recognise returnal graphical merits dude, it's just that some people put more weight in other graphical aspects or a more balanced type of graphic with maybe less particles and more details elsewhere.
Can we agree when the heat is on, it's a really beautiful game then?
Honestly? i prefer the more quiet moments where i can enjoy the atmosphere of the locations.
I don't know these many people you keep talking about, and I've never heard the cartoony phrase about Returnal before.
Dude i don't know what the hell are you talking about anymore and again with this fucking resolution that i never even spoke about...i was praising the game for his atmosphere and the fact that i don't personally like all these colored globes in such a dark game with an oppressing atmosphere, if you don't remember other people talking about the same thing then search the topics when the game was presented and the first gameplays, you are gonna read some people talking about the same thing, it's not an hard concept to grasp, it's like in the movie alien if the xenomorph started vomiting orange ballons from his mouth, some people like it, some people don't.
