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[setoman]

It’s baked

Where are you getting this info from? Remedy has always used dynamic global illumination since Quantum Break (same in Control) and now AW2. Its not prebaked.

Dude i saw 4k footage, i know it's not true, the chick face is not even as good as some ps4 characters (worse skin, strange eyes etc.) and secondary\tertiary characters looks good at the very best and not as detailed as horizon characters, the waitress in the little city looked fucking horrid in one of the pics i saw.

Yeah it's gonna be a strong negatory from me dawg.

You're comparing characters that look video gamey with characters that pass as real life / cgi in certain scenes.
The difference is literally night and day.
What you think is good character rendering is actually BAD video gamey rendering.
This includes TLOUS2, Horizon 2, Dead-stranding. AW2 is simply at a different level

Absolutely not the best when Death Stranding and TLOU2 exist

AW2 is simply at another level. Even you said previously that some shots at first glance pass as real life.
And you are not even playing on PC Ultra. You are playing on console with low/medium settings.

You guys need to study game lighting vs cgi lighting with the same environment. You will realize what make something pass for real and what makes it look obviously video gamey.

All the the stuff you think makes TLOUS2 and Death Stranding "look good" is actually what makes them look bad.
They will always be stuck in "video game look" level.

These don't really do much for me. I don't know...

Edit: Zoom in on the other models in the scene. Yikes.

What object are you talking about? I have spent over 2 hrs walking in bright falls. I can zoom in for you.
I swear the nitpick of this game is unreal.

Also have people noticed there hasn't been one bad screenshot taken of this game?
Other games usually have hundreds, but there hasn't been 1 bad one.

Now I'm actually curious, can someone playing on PC Ultra path tracing take one bad screenshot? Find an area that looks bad... Because i don't think such an area exists for this game, its just that good.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

You're comparing characters that look video gamey with characters that pass as real life / cgi in certain scenes.

I kind of agree with this. Characters in The Last of Us games look fantastic in cinematics but I would never, ever call them realistic. The entire game, including faces, is heavily stylized and artists are clearly not aiming for photo-realism. Which is good. Good art style IMO is the most important thing. It makes the game age like wine and not milk.

 

[Lethal01]

The Venom/Miles/Peter sequence will for sure be in the game. For the sake of keeping everyone honest, why don't you point out the specific visual results of the CG trailer that you think is impossible to replicate on PS5. Provide us with a few frames and/or short video of the most impressive moments for you in the scene and we can all revisit in 2 weeks time.

The lighting is simple more stable and more accurate than any game out there right now not just in the chase but in the miles clip and the clip of peter at the grave.

VS

How about we try to figure which on of these is CGI, I dunno guys, might be a hard call

 

[GymWolf]

I thought aw2 having way better assets than ue5 demo was the most stupid thing about the game that i could have read this month, boy i was wrong...

We have a new challenger.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

I thought aw2 having way better assets than ue5 demo was the most stupid thing about the game that i could have read this month, boy i was wrong...

We have a new challenger.

Even the smallest things are stupidly detailed. This game needs photo mode because it's hard to showcase stuff like this without it.

 

[GymWolf]

Even the smallest things are stupidly detailed. This game needs photo mode because it's hard to showcase stuff like this without it.

Dude we literally had screens with ps4 launch rocks, i know it's not true, no matter how much you people cocksucked the game, every game has shit assets here and there, and this one doesn't have the excuse of being crossgen nor open world.

And i saw close up of many characters, they are not the best in the business nor even close to being averagely as good as horizon where charas with one line of dialogue that you see for 5 sec are as detailed as 95% of games main protagonist, come the fuck on.

Next.

 

[arkhamguy123]

I thought aw2 having way better assets than ue5 demo was the most stupid thing about the game that i could have read this month, boy i was wrong...

We have a new challenger.

Elaborate

 

[GymWolf]

Elaborate

AW2 has best characters in the business
AW2 has no bad assets and you could not find one if you try on purpose


Aw2 also cured cancer and it's good for people with erectile disfunction.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Dude we literally had screens with ps4 launch rocks

Yes, because:

every game has shit assets here and there

At least play the damn game before you shit on it.

 

[GymWolf]

Yes, because:



At least play the damn game before you shit on it.

I don't need to play the game when we have people posting 4k pics, why i should waste money on a game i don't like to show what people can see already?

I wasn't the one saying that everything is super detailed and the game has no bad assets or the model thing, maybe you should re-read the convo if you think i started this one.

We are in a graphic fidelity topic, people are gonna challenge other peoples opinions based on pics and videos and gif, AW2 is not a protected species, sorry not sorry

 

[MidGenRefresh]

I don't need to play the game when we have people posting 4k pics, why i should waste money on a game i don't like to show what people can see already?

I wasn't the one saying that everything is super detailed and the game has no bad assets, maybe you should re-read the convo if you think i started this one.

We are in a graphic fidelity topic, people are gonna challenge other peoples opinions, AW2 is not a protected species, sorry not sorry.

Yeah, your opinion is invalid. If the game is out, playing i should be a requirement to comment on it. Your opinion is not on the game but on few static, compressed screenshots/clips. Bravo.

 

[GymWolf]

Yeah, your opinion is invalid. If the game is out, playing i should be a requirement to comment on it. Your opinion is not on the game but on few static, compressed screenshots/clips. Bravo.

Are we really playing this game where cherry picked 4k pics posted by people who praise the graphic are invalid? for real?

Ok then

So pack it up boys, we are gonna open the topic to discuss games when everyone has a copy and at least 2 run on it.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Are we really playing this game where cherry picked 4k pics posted by people who praise the graphic are invalid? for real?

Ok then

Play the game, then we can talk about it. Until then, your opinion means dog shit.

 

[GymWolf]

Play the game, then we can talk about it. Until then, your opinion means dog shit.

I don't wanna fight over this shit, but you don't make the rules and i can judge whatever the fuck i want like we all did since the topic was created

Like i said, AW2 is not a protected species that need special circumstances to be judged, exactly like you don't need to play the game to judge the characters in sp2 from pics and videos, i'm sure you were not against people who were trolling that game without actually paying it, so let's not start with new made up rules now after so many pages, its' hilarious and make you people look desperate to defend the game at all cost, we never had this rule and we are not gonna start now.

You can just disagree with my opinion without calling it invalid, no opinion is invalid except the one from clinically blind people

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Like i said, AW2 is not a protected species that need special circumstances to be judged, exactly like you don't need to play the game to judge the characters in sp2, i'm sure you were not against people who were trolling that game without actually paying it, so let's not start with new made up rules now after so many pages, its' hilarious and make you people look desperate to defend the game at all cost, we never had this rule and we are not gonna start now.

This rule should apply to all games, period. I don't know if people who trolled Spider-Man 2 played the game or not. They were not vocal about it. You are super vocal about not wanting to play Alan Wake 2, that's why I've pointed it out.

You can see screenshots and think game looks meh only to play it and see that it's as meh as you expected, or it can look worse or it can be much, much better. It certainly happened to me many times before, that I changed my mind on the game after playing it.

Anyway, continue to post about games that you never played, who the hell cares.

 

[ikbalCO]

The Shining; The game

 

[GymWolf]

This rule should apply to all games, period. I don't know if people who trolled Spider-Man 2 played the game or not. They were not vocal about it. You are super vocal about not wanting to play Alan Wake 2, that's why I've pointed it out.

You can see screenshots and think game looks meh only to play it and see that it's as meh as you expected, or it can look worse or it can be much, much better. It certainly happened to me many times before, that I changed my mind on the game after playing it.

Anyway, continue to post about games that you never played, who the hell cares.

Never said that it looks meh and you never asked to people who were trolling spidey 2 if they actually played so cut the bullshit, you only care for aw2 because you are defending it.

I was just challenging the fact that it has the best models or that it doens't have bad spots, sue me.
It's not like people said that the game looks great or incredible and i ever said anything back, i just challenged some specific things.

If we could only judge the game after playing it, the topic would have 20 pages dude, it's bullshit, high quality pics exist for a reason, especially when photomode pics improve iq and make the game look better than it actually look, if i play the game and take pics with my phone the game would look worse, i'm literally doing you a favour by judgying the graphic from cherry picked screens because those usually looks better than the game on my tv, it was the same with cyberpunk, horizon and it the same with every game, photomode (ingame or external) shoots are the most flattering way to judge a game after highly curated gif, like wtf are we even talking about here??

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Never said that it looks meh and you never asked to people who were trolling spidey 2 if they actually played so cut the bullshit, you only care for aw2 because you are defending it.

I was just challenging the fact that it has the best models or that it doens't have bad spots, sue me.

Yeah, I don't really have a habit of going around asking people if they played the game or not.

I never said that you said that it looks meh, it was what we call an example.

I'm defending Alan Wake because as an entire package, it's one of the best looking games out there but people in various threads are like "this rock looks PS4!" or "character is eating in the dinner but there's nothing on the spoon". It's stupid.

Anyway, you should 100% play it. As someone who likes graphics you own it to yourself. Even if you don't like the subject matter. It's dirt cheap.

 

[Rheon]

This is the same game people saying Avatar beats, even after seeing those dogshit impression videos

 

[GymWolf]

Yeah, I don't really have a habit of going around asking people if they played the game or not.

I never said that you said that it looks meh, it was what we call an example.

I'm defending Alan Wake because as an entire package, it's one of the best looking games out there but people in various threads are like "this rock looks PS4!" or "character is eating in the dinner but there's nothing on the spoon". It's stupid.

Anyway, you should 100% play it. As someone who likes graphics you own it to yourself. Even if you don't like the subject matter. It's dirt cheap.

And where in the flying fuck i ever said the opposite?

The game is clearly top 5 if not top 3 overall, i would not even be against someone putting the game at number 1, but i can still challenge some specific opinions about it.

I don't have a number one because all games are uneven and do different things, there is no complete package yet, at least for me.

I'm probably gonna play the damn game when it's dirty cheap, i already spended a buckload of money this year and i have a lot of backlog.

 

[GymWolf]

This is the same game people saying Avatar beats, even after seeing those dogshit impression videos

Avatar has the better vegetation (maybe), probably better light system, better draw distance, but it doens't beat horizon in all aspects.

The games can trade punches but i think horizon is gonna have the better highs and worse lows, it's a fucking crossgen in the end.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

And where in the flying fuck i ever said the opposite?

I said that even the smallest things are highly detailed and you just couldn't help yourself to mention that there was one rock that looked like something from the PS4. Bravo, you're so observant.

Play the game, man.

 

[GymWolf]

I said that even the smallest things are highly detailed and you just couldn't help yourself to mention that there was one rock that looked like something from the PS4. Bravo, you're so observant.

Play the game, man.

And that was a specific thing because you spoke about a specific thing, i was not judgying the overall package, the game is clearly a looker, i'm not blind.
This is still a topic where we challenge other people opinions about graphic the last time i checked.

I'm gonna play the game when it's dirty cheap because i know myself and i gonna probably abandon the game 5-6 hours in, it's really not my thing and i'm not gonna pay 40 euros just to see the graphic, i'm not THAT much of a graphic whore, buying games that i like is still the main reason over graphic.

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

VS

How about we try to figure which on of these is CGI, I dunno guys might be a hard call

Top screenshots look like a mobile game compared to CGI. I wonder when we are going to achieve that kind of real-time graphics, maybe PS7?

 

[Xtib81]

This is the same game people saying Avatar beats, even after seeing those dogshit impression videos

The only thing that looks subpar in horizon is draw distance/LOD transitions. Everything else is top notch (for a 2022 cross gen game of course).

 

[Rheon]

Avatar has the better vegetation (maybe), probably better light system, better draw distance, but it doens't beat horizon in all aspects.

The games can trade punches but i think horizon is gonna have the better highs and worse lows, it's a fucking crossgen in the end.

Idk. I had high hopes for it but after seeing those impressions, my hype has died almost all the way down.

Hopefully it looks better on release, but then again, it's Ubishit we're dealing with.

 

[GymWolf]

The only thing that looks subpar in horizon is draw distance/LOD transitions. Everything else is top notch.

No.

Texture work is very uneven except for charas and dinobots, human combat animation are dogshit and it's not an excuse being an action RPG, other rpg have better gunplay on human and even the melee feels clunky and disconnected animation wise, one of the worst, most rigid ragdoll i ever seen in a game, i don't notice bad light very much but people massacred the light system in horizon so at the very least it's not optimal except for the incredible hero light on aloy.

I forgot some things but those are the most glaring ones.

It's far from perfect, but the highs are astronomically high.

 

[GymWolf]

Idk. I had high hopes for it but after seeing those impressions, my hype has died almost all the way down.

Hopefully it looks better on release, but then again, it's Ubishit we're dealing with.

I was talking merely about graphic, the game looks ultra meh from the footage and i fucking hate avatar so it doesn't help either.

 

[Xtib81]

No.

Texture work is very unuven except for charas and dinobots, human combat animation are dogshit and it's not an excuse being an action RPG, other rpg have better gunplay on human and even the melee feels clunky and disconnected animation wise, one of the worst, more rigid ragdoll i ever seen in a game, i don't notice bad light very much but people massacred the light system in horizon so at the very least it's not optimal.

I forgot some things but those are the most glaring ones.

It's far from perfect.

Yeah of course, I added 'for a 2022 cross gen game' after

 

[rofif]

Where are you getting this info from? Remedy has always used dynamic global illumination since Quantum Break (same in Control) and now AW2. Its not prebaked.


You're comparing characters that look video gamey with characters that pass as real life / cgi in certain scenes.
The difference is literally night and day.
What you think is good character rendering is actually BAD video gamey rendering.
This includes TLOUS2, Horizon 2, Dead-stranding. AW2 is simply at a different level


AW2 is simply at another level. Even you said previously that some shots at first glance pass as real life.
And you are not even playing on PC Ultra. You are playing on console with low/medium settings.

You guys need to study game lighting vs cgi lighting with the same environment. You will realize what make something pass for real and what makes it look obviously video gamey.

All the the stuff you think makes TLOUS2 and Death Stranding "look good" is actually what makes them look bad.
They will always be stuck in "video game look" level.



What object are you talking about? I have spent over 2 hrs walking in bright falls. I can zoom in for you.
I swear the nitpick of this game is unreal.

Also have people noticed there hasn't been one bad screenshot taken of this game?
Other games usually have hundreds, but there hasn't been 1 bad one.

Now I'm actually curious, can someone playing on PC Ultra path tracing take one bad screenshot? Find an area that looks bad... Because i don't think such an area exists for this game, its just that good.

It’s ps5 version I am describing. There are better looking games on ps5 than this.
Maybe pc version is on another level but it seems to me console versions use prebaked lighting with some dynamic shadows. It doesn’t look like it’s doing anything special.

And if it’s all dynamic then they wasted their resources because most of it could be baked with higher quality and performance. Just like tlou2. It also has flashlight with bounce lighting

 

[MidGenRefresh]

And that was a specific thing because you spoke about a specific thing, i was not judgying the overall package, the game is clearly a looker, i'm not blind.

With this mindset you will never be satisfied. There always will be a bad texture here and there, or not so detailed prop.

Just for you, a next-gen rock

Everything is rendered, even pointless details like screws on this sign:

Coffee world is cool. Stupid but cool:

 

[GymWolf]

That's not a nextgen rock

Like i said, i know the game is a looker.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

That's not a nextgen rock

Like i said, i know the game is a looker.

It's a rock. It looks like a rock. What more could you possibly want from a rock?

Last-gen rock:

 

[GymWolf]

It's a rock. It looks like a rock. What more could you possibly want from a rock?

Last-gen rock:

It's a good rock

 

[PeteBull]

Top screenshots look like a mobile game compared to CGI. I wonder when we are going to achieve that kind of real-time graphics, maybe PS7?

We will probably be in the ballpark(hopefully stronger, but doubt its at least 50% stronger) of 4090 with ps6 if it launches in 2028, so 8 years gen with ps5pr0 in the middle(so holidays 2024), beyond that its too hard to tell for me, 2036 earliest for ps7 so who really knows, we dont know what performance we will get access to as console players coz we got no idea what top of the top pc hardware gonna look like few years back. In alan wake 2, a looker of a game, ps5 is roughly as good as rtx 2080( 3070 is much faster, and its 2080+20%=3070) just to give u somewhat realistic powergap, thats 4090 vs 2080, 310% of performance(+210% otherwise) https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080.c3224

Ofc we talking pure rasterisation here, 4090 is way faster in raytracing, easly 4x faster, from ps5, but thats difference in tech between current nvidia and rdna2 from amd(ps5 has many of the features of rnda2, otherwise it wouldnt be able to perform on pair or often even beat xsx who is actually full rdna2 archi, u can even clearly see it by the clocks ps5 can achieve, such clocks would be unatainable if ps5 was rdna1 archi, even tho ppl on the net claiming its rdna1,5, as a proof here strongest rdna1 card https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-5700-xt.c3339 clocks of reference models, obviously in a console form factor we wouldnt even break 1500mhz on rdna1 ;p ).

Another hint what roughly can be expected from ps6 will be ps5pr0 coming holidays next year, if it will be solid 2x increase(not tflops, those are inflated unfortunately in 30xx and 40xx series from nvidia and in 7xxx series from amd, im talking actual game performance) then it means ps6 should be 3x or so stronger, if ps5pr0 is moderate upgrade over ps5(like 1,6-1,7x only, like in the current leaks) then obviously ps6 wont be superstrong either.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

We will probably be in the ballpark(hopefully stronger, but doubt its at least 50% stronger) of 4090 with ps6 if it launches in 2028, so 8 years gen with ps5pr0 in the middle(so holidays 2024), beyond that its too hard to tell for me, 2036 earliest for ps7 so who really knows, we dont know what performance we will get access to as console players coz we got no idea what top of the top pc hardware gonna look like few years back. In alan wake 2, a looker of a game, ps5 is roughly as good as rtx 2080( 3070 is much faster, and its 2080+20%=3070) just to give u somewhat realistic powergap, thats 4090 vs 2080, 310% of performance(+210% otherwise) https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080.c3224

Ofc we talking pure rasterisation here, 4090 is way faster in raytracing, easly 4x faster, from ps5, but thats difference in tech between current nvidia and rdna2 from amd(ps5 has many of the features of rnda2, otherwise it wouldnt be able to perform on pair or often even beat xsx who is actually full rdna2 archi, u can even clearly see it by the clocks ps5 can achieve, such clocks would be unatainable if ps5 was rdna1 archi, even tho ppl on the net claiming its rdna1,5, as a proof here strongest rdna1 card https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-5700-xt.c3339 clocks of reference models, obviously in a console form factor we wouldnt even break 1500mhz on rdna1 ;p ).

Another hint what roughly can be expected from ps6 will be ps5pr0 coming holidays next year, if it will be solid 2x increase(not tflops, those are inflated unfortunately in 30xx and 40xx series from nvidia and in 7xxx series from amd, im talking actual game performance) then it means ps6 should be 3x or so stronger, if ps5pr0 is moderate upgrade over ps5(like 1,6-1,7x only, like in the current leaks) then obviously ps6 wont be superstrong either.

In other words: we'll be old or dead before it happens.

 

[PeteBull]

In other words: we'll be old or dead before it happens.

Speak for urself, im 41yo youngling here, planning to live beyond 80 ezpz, need to last to see the opness of ps9 and if it matches the sony trailers

 

[GymWolf]

Graphic aside, you people should really play the robocop game.

 

[Hugare]

Where are you getting this info from? Remedy has always used dynamic global illumination since Quantum Break (same in Control) and now AW2. Its not prebaked.


You're comparing characters that look video gamey with characters that pass as real life / cgi in certain scenes.
The difference is literally night and day.
What you think is good character rendering is actually BAD video gamey rendering.
This includes TLOUS2, Horizon 2, Dead-stranding. AW2 is simply at a different level


AW2 is simply at another level. Even you said previously that some shots at first glance pass as real life.
And you are not even playing on PC Ultra. You are playing on console with low/medium settings.

You guys need to study game lighting vs cgi lighting with the same environment. You will realize what make something pass for real and what makes it look obviously video gamey.

All the the stuff you think makes TLOUS2 and Death Stranding "look good" is actually what makes them look bad.
They will always be stuck in "video game look" level.



What object are you talking about? I have spent over 2 hrs walking in bright falls. I can zoom in for you.
I swear the nitpick of this game is unreal.

Also have people noticed there hasn't been one bad screenshot taken of this game?
Other games usually have hundreds, but there hasn't been 1 bad one.

Now I'm actually curious, can someone playing on PC Ultra path tracing take one bad screenshot? Find an area that looks bad... Because i don't think such an area exists for this game, its just that good.

Its baked

I'm at work, so I wont put the video here, but Oliver from DF mentions it on his PS5 tech analysis.

Its baked + SSAO. There's no fucking way that realtime GI alone would produce those visuals without RT or baked lighting.

And it makes sense. Its not a game with dynamic TOD so baked lighting is the best option possible.

 

[ckstine]

Graphic aside, you people should really play the robocop game.

graphics included, you people should play the RoboCop game. The soundtrack is great as well.

 

[SlimySnake]

Graphic aside, you people should really play the robocop game.

Too much on my plate. Forza, dead space before my sub expires then the greatest looking game of all time Alan wake 2 before the other greatest looking game comes out next month.

 

[ckstine]

Too much on my plate. Forza, dead space before my sub expires then the greatest looking game of all time Alan wake 2 before the other greatest looking game comes out next month.

To be honest, and I know I'm in the vast minority here, I think that Avatar honestly looks pretty interesting. I think the snowdrop engine has proven to be a formidable piece of tech in the past, almost as good as the disrupt engine that Legion (and wd1+2) uses. I think with luck, Avatar could prove to be very impressive visually, but I wouldn't say that I have my hopes up. Hopefully Snake is right on this one.

 

[GymWolf]

graphics included, you people should play the RoboCop game. The soundtrack is great as well.

I said graphic aside because there are other good things in the game other than the graphic.

 

[Rheon]

I was talking merely about graphic, the game looks ultra meh from the footage and i fucking hate avatar so it doesn't help either.

No I meant graphics.

Gameplay-wise, it just looks Farcry in space which is more or less what it was ever gonna be.

 

[SlimySnake]

To be honest, and I know I'm in the vast minority here, I think that Avatar honestly looks pretty interesting. I think the snowdrop engine has proven to be a formidable piece of tech in the past, almost as good as the disrupt engine that Legion (and wd1+2) uses. I think with luck, Avatar could prove to be very impressive visually, but I wouldn't say that I have my hopes up. Hopefully Snake is right on this one.

I think this thread is generally harsh on games but when they play them on their tvs they typically come around. I was getting shit for Alan Wake 2 before the game came out and now most people get it. I think Avatar will have that effect. Especially since their base is next gen. The tech they are using will mask the shortcomings and on a typical playthrough you will spending the vast majority of the time around the best looking areas of the game instead of the fugly ones. My only complaint is that the fucking fog and LOD management while flying isnt all that great. I hated that in Horizon and while its better in Avatar, its still not as good as RDR2 though i understand there is no flying in rdr2.

I went back to Horizon immediately after finishing Spiderman 2 to gauge the graphics, and it immediately hit me as last gen. The density, asset quality, and draw distance felt last gen. And spiderman 2 itself feels last gen at times. I was in San Francisco so flew around for a bit. Underwhelming. pretty but underwhelming. Changed time of day to morning when it looks best, and it did look better, but the flaws just kind of stand out. I didnt feel compelled to take a single screenshot and didnt want to cherrypick bad looking screenshots so just gave up. But then as a last resort, went to plainsong because i remembered it looking amazing during day time and sure enough, mind blowing graphics. Simply beautiful.

I have long thought that it is the best looking game out there... till now. I dont think Spiderman 2 tops it but Alan Wake 2 just might. Will need to play it more, but horizon fw will compare directly with avatar due to its setting and the differences between the two should become apparent. As you go up to the top of the settlement and look down, the LODs do take a hit and ruin the presentation somewhat but there are moments where it looks better than Avatar. I wonder if Avatar will have these moments.

 

[GymWolf]

I'm not negative about avatar btw.

If they can match the very first reveal i'm gonna be impressed by ubisoft.

 

[SlimySnake]

How about we try to figure which on of these is CGI, I dunno guys, might be a hard call

The venom miles and spidey sequence in the streets was not in the final game. So chief was wrong there. Not his fault for falling for shady insomniac marketing though.

But I personally thought the cutscenes at times looked very similar thanks to lighting and DoF. Venom especially is very well animated but i was so engrossed in the story that i forgot to take screenshots of him.

For the other pic, the lighting doesnt match. The game looks phenomenal under some lighting conditions especially cloudy and rainy ones, but sadly they dont stick around too often. You can see below how drastically the lighting changes the same area in the game.

 

[SlimySnake]

I'm not negative about avatar btw.

If they can match the very first reveal i'm gonna be impressed by ubisoft.

Never gonna happen. First ever trailer was a target render and your best hope is that they dont downgrade from the ps5 reveal from e3 of this year.

I actually asked the tech director on twitter if this final shot of the reveal trailer was downgraded or if we should expect this area in the final game, and he didnt reply back lmao.

The lighting might come close but the draw distance is clearly downgraded.

 

[CGNoire]

Yes it moves around characters very immersively.

Im pretty sure GymWolf meant "is it physically dynamic" and I would bet my left nut it isnt. Volumetricly rendered yes....physically interactive no way hosea.

 

[CGNoire]

The venom miles and spidey sequence in the streets was not in the final game. So chief was wrong there. Not his fault for falling for shady insomniac marketing though.

But I personally thought the cutscenes at times looked very similar thanks to lighting and DoF. Venom especially is very well animated but i was so engrossed in the story that i forgot to take screenshots of him.

For the other pic, the lighting doesnt match. The game looks phenomenal under some lighting conditions especially cloudy and rainy ones, but sadly they dont stick around too often. You can see below how drastically the lighting changes the same area in the game.

The lighting and Shaders on peters face in those first 2 shots arent even remotely the equivilent dont even get me started on the hair. Similar model and color pallete is all.