Buggy Loop
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Uh oh, some players have discovered that Crimson Desert may have been using some AI-generated art here…
Time to get extremely worked-up & pretend it's the end of the world.
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That post captured the essence of DF perfectly
Im just speechless regarding the technical presentation of Crimson Desert, this game is absolutely beaitiful and a technical masterpiece, without a question the most beautiful Open World game in the market right now, and its hard to think that future games can exceed that. Especially with Ray Reconstruction it looks fantastic, almost like a movie. The lightning, the asset quality, everything looks superb, every material looks real.
Here some screenshots I made in 4K DLDSR Ultrawide, max settings, Ray Reconstruction and Reshade:
Here some screenshots I made in 4K DLDSR Ultrawide, max settings, Ray Reconstruction and Reshade:
SlimySnake
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Not just pop-in. Draw distance. For the longest time, i was the only one pointing out just how bad the draw distance in Horizon FW could get. DF made no mention of how 99% of the map is blocked by fog.
Cyberpunk also has really bad pop-in especially when driving. Silence from DF.
They need to fix the pop-in up close in Crimson Desert, but at least they have a phenomenal draw distance for distant objects. I have no idea how you get that part right and completely fuck up whats right in front of you.
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omfgIm just speechless regarding the technical presentation of Crimson Desert, this game is absolutely beaitiful and a technical masterpiece, without a question the most beautiful Open World game in the market right now, and its hard to think that future games can exceed that. Especially with Ray Reconstruction it looks fantastic, almost like a movie. The lightning, the asset quality, everything looks superb, every material looks real.
Here some screenshots I made in 4K DLDSR Ultrawide, max settings, Ray Reconstruction and Reshade:
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Black Myth 2 maxed out on PC/PS6 shouldn't be too far off from this... imo
If they still go the linear route.
SlimySnake
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its not hopium, nvidia told Digital Foundry and other journalists that they already have this running on a single 5090 in their labs.
I have no doubt they will be able to get this to run on a single GPU. they already said it scales with compute so other GPUs will simply scale down with resolution and settings.
The real problem is that the tech in its current state is guessing like you said. And its guessing because its poorly implemented. It's not done at the engine level. it does not have access to the zero LOD models. Concept art. It simply looks at whats on screen and hallucinates an image based on what its trained on. Hence, the massive completely different lighting and character models.
I would never play a game like this for the first time. Maybe i will for shits and giggles because i love me some photorealism, but this is a poor man's vision of the future. It is bastardization of what gaming and art is about. If Nvidia was serious, they wouldve released an AI model that takes regular games and applies path tracing to them even if GPUs cant afford to run them. But that would require integration into each game's engine and training on the path tracing model.
You have to wonder why they went with this AI model thats trained on photorealistic assets instead of path traced versions of games that exist today. It's because they are too busy smelling their own farts.
Bojji
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Crimson desert has pretty good NPC models for such massive open world game (and they all have Ai unlike many other recent games where they are just static objects). The worst thing about them are materials and polycounts on clothes.
MCs are much better:
Kliff looks badass here
Outside of that clipping on cape...
For random side characters, I'm impressed:
Sorry for awful too bright/too dark pictures. Capturing HDR screenshots is fucking pain on PC.
MCs are much better:
Kliff looks badass here
Outside of that clipping on cape...For random side characters, I'm impressed:
Sorry for awful too bright/too dark pictures. Capturing HDR screenshots is fucking pain on PC.
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Balducci30
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Not very impressed with crimson desert aside from the water and how everything like cloths and stuff move. Game kinda sucks as well, wish I didn't buy.
Bojji
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i think it looks amazing graphically (and I like it as well).
It looks 2x better on actual screen with HDR.
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Balducci30
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I'm playing on base ps5 idk if that makes a differencei think it looks amazing graphically (and I like it as well).
It looks 2x better on actual screen with HDR.
Bojji
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Base PS5 version has image quality problem in performance mode. Game can't really show you details under TAA blur with 1080p base resolution.
If you have 120Hz tv - try balanced mode.
I think they could have limit some graphical options and try to Force FSR3 1080->4K reconstruction on base console, even FSR3 would look much better than what they have used here...
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RainyNguyen
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I genuinely dont understand why so many ppls are amazed by and praising the graphic of Crimson Desert, even calling it "next-gen". Have they actually played other open world game? Compared to ACS, and especially RDR2, which has a fairly similar environment CD falls far behind, by a huge margin.
My feedback of the graphics after more than a dozen hours of playing at 4K, max settings (without RR):
- The AA is extremely poor. I haven't tried native resolution yet, but I've tested all DLSS modes and none of them fix the aliasing. For a game with this much vegetation, it becomes even more of a disaster. Why is no one talking about this?
- Pop-in and pixelated everywhere, all the time.
- The water physics looks next-gen, but the water surface textures are blurry af, waterfalls also look very bad.
- The weather effects are underwhelming. Rain, in particular, is honestly terrible, like something from a PS3 game. At first I thought it was a bug, but after watching a few clips on youTube, it looks just as bad there.
-The lighting uses advanced RT, but it still falls far short of the baked lighting in RDR2. Moonlight, light rays filtering through forest canopies, sunrise, sunset, storms, lightning in RDR2 are truly stunning, but here, they feel extremely lackluster.
- Why is the contrast so fking high? Even during the day, shadows are pitch black like its the blackhole. The green of grass and foliage looks artificial, almost like plastic with LED lights inside.
- Torch and fire lighting at night is overly red, almost as if it's trying to burn your eyes.
The only thing truly worth praising is its top tier optimization.
Previously, there was another game praised as "next-gen" and "CGI-level" that I couldn't understand either: FF 16.
My feedback of the graphics after more than a dozen hours of playing at 4K, max settings (without RR):
- The AA is extremely poor. I haven't tried native resolution yet, but I've tested all DLSS modes and none of them fix the aliasing. For a game with this much vegetation, it becomes even more of a disaster. Why is no one talking about this?
- Pop-in and pixelated everywhere, all the time.
- The water physics looks next-gen, but the water surface textures are blurry af, waterfalls also look very bad.
- The weather effects are underwhelming. Rain, in particular, is honestly terrible, like something from a PS3 game. At first I thought it was a bug, but after watching a few clips on youTube, it looks just as bad there.
-The lighting uses advanced RT, but it still falls far short of the baked lighting in RDR2. Moonlight, light rays filtering through forest canopies, sunrise, sunset, storms, lightning in RDR2 are truly stunning, but here, they feel extremely lackluster.
- Why is the contrast so fking high? Even during the day, shadows are pitch black like its the blackhole. The green of grass and foliage looks artificial, almost like plastic with LED lights inside.
- Torch and fire lighting at night is overly red, almost as if it's trying to burn your eyes.
The only thing truly worth praising is its top tier optimization.
Previously, there was another game praised as "next-gen" and "CGI-level" that I couldn't understand either: FF 16.
Codeblew
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Probably because this isn't the thread for reviews?
Bojji
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RDR2 looked like PS4 game when it launched and it still looks like PS4 game (just with high resolution and frame rate on pc).
I don't get why people are so obsessed about visuals of 2018 title. It's not in the same league as crimson desert (or AC shadows).
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SlimySnake
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Man, this game is such a disappointment graphically. Not because it doesnt look excellent, it does! But its image quality and shadow flickering just ruins the immersion for me. It just feels like a very unstable image and i hate it. the lighting, the foliage, the art design, the NPCs, the materials on the NPCs, ray tracing, all are top notch but i saw these weird squiggly line artifacts when i went to the abyss and moving from performance to quality didnt exactly fix anything.
the open world trees and foliage doesnt resolve that well either with dlss performance. interiors are just amazing looking and feel path traced. this is way better interior lighting than anything ive seen from avatar and ac shadows. there is so much to like here. i love how detailed the world feels. i love the NPC routines. this feels like a rockstar game with just how much NPCs do in towns, villages and around the open world.
but not having rt sun shadows is causing a very unstable image that dlss performance just cant fix. i went down to 30 fps and dlss quality and its still not clean enough. its not bad, but just not clean like other games ive played this gen on consoles including UE5 and snowdrop games. for a game thats supposed to be super optimized, i am disappointed in just how poor it runs even at dlss performance and looks far worse (image clarity wise) than mafia did at 720p internal resolution.
the open world trees and foliage doesnt resolve that well either with dlss performance. interiors are just amazing looking and feel path traced. this is way better interior lighting than anything ive seen from avatar and ac shadows. there is so much to like here. i love how detailed the world feels. i love the NPC routines. this feels like a rockstar game with just how much NPCs do in towns, villages and around the open world.
but not having rt sun shadows is causing a very unstable image that dlss performance just cant fix. i went down to 30 fps and dlss quality and its still not clean enough. its not bad, but just not clean like other games ive played this gen on consoles including UE5 and snowdrop games. for a game thats supposed to be super optimized, i am disappointed in just how poor it runs even at dlss performance and looks far worse (image clarity wise) than mafia did at 720p internal resolution.
I don't understand why people think this looks good. I'm legit shocked that people in this thread think this looks next gen..i think it looks amazing graphically (and I like it as well).
It looks 2x better on actual screen with HDR.
Jesb
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I mean anywhere really. But you're right that this is a thread for eye candy.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
SlimySnake
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