Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen

I wonder if Mafia is going to be a game that looks wildly better on PC vs console. That's the only explanation I can think of to this huge change in how the game looks compared to the reveal.
 
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analog_future said:


Continues to look very underwhelming.


Seriously wtf, it legitimately is looking like an early PS4 game:

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Hmm maybe it's performance mode on a base console and the previous footage was quality mode on a pro or pc. Or maybe I'm just in cope mode.
 
CGNoire said:
Now do CP2077 next.
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I don't know, it's a FPS primarily so the 1st person is the best way.

This perspective is deeply integrated with the storytelling, dialogue, and overall design, it's more immersive and the 1st person acts as a way to bring the gaming experience closer to what you do in real life.

If they do it for the sequel, I hope they have the balls to make it just as an option, not as the main focus.
 
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GymWolf said:
I'm sicilian and continue to not give a fuck about this game :lollipop_squinting:
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Bafanculooo bambino! 🤌

its a joke brother, dont draw the knife, I only know a few italian words


Mafia looks like a ps4 game in my opinion. Nothing impressive, in fact it has some questionable textures and lighting conditions
 
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SlimySnake said:
Fucking hell. it's like a completely different game.
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And that was captured on the Pro at 30 fps... :/

mrMUR_96 said:
Hmm maybe it's performance mode on a base console and the previous footage was quality mode on a pro or pc. Or maybe I'm just in cope mode.
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It literally says captured on PS5 Pro. This must be the quality mode on Pro! Now imagine what performance mode on base would look like...
 
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I'm in denial with Mafia. I really refuse to believe the game was downgraded to that extent. It was an easy day one for me but I don't want to support this type of bullshit, if it was indeed what happened.
 
Mafia definitely gonna look better on PC. i see bad shadow resolution, weak lighting, awful 30 fps and artifacts. It should look much better on PC with DLSS4 and higher settings
 
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TheRedRiders said:
New Metro Exodus sequel announcement is likely going to happen soon. The studio was clear about building a title which takes full advantage of next-gen, let's hope they deliver the goodies!

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Metro Fans Think Reveal is Close as 4A's Socials Ramp Up Ahead of Gamescom

4A Games has brought social channels back to life with new team members, prompting many to expect a reveal of the next Metro game at Gamescom
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This is going to be interesting. Metro series always pushed the tech boundaries.

I still remember playing the first one in 3D on my 3dvision 22" monitor with a 480. Looked out of this world.
 
Killer8 said:
Mafia looked great in the earlier trailers.

What the fuck happened?
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I wouldnt be surprised if they are using earlier UE5 versions and ran out of performance on consoles, and had to start making cuts. Its obvious that shadows, AO, and GI have all been downgraded. Nothing looks cohesive anymore. Ive seen PS4 games with better AO and shadows than this.

It will be interesting to see if the PC version looks better.
 
metareferential said:
This is going to be interesting. Metro series always pushed the tech boundaries.

I still remember playing the first one in 3D on my 3dvision 22" monitor with a 480. Looked out of this world.
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I played the first one on the 360 and even that looked good, still need to play the rest of Exodus.
 
Alex11 said:
I don't know, it's a FPS primarily so the 1st person is the best way.

This perspective is deeply integrated with the storytelling, dialogue, and overall design, it's more immersive and the 1st person acts as a way to bring the gaming experience closer to what you do in real life.

If they do it for the sequel, I hope they have the balls to make it just as an option, not as the main focus.
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I really badly want them to implement it well in the sequel but you are correct. Its gotta be the best 1st person integration ive seen hands down. Like it was designed for a VR. 1st person car chase combat with the police is so intense in the game.
 
TheRedRiders said:
New Metro Exodus sequel announcement is likely going to happen soon. The studio was clear about building a title which takes full advantage of next-gen, let's hope they deliver the goodies!

insider-gaming.com

Metro Fans Think Reveal is Close as 4A's Socials Ramp Up Ahead of Gamescom

4A Games has brought social channels back to life with new team members, prompting many to expect a reveal of the next Metro game at Gamescom
insider-gaming.com insider-gaming.com
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Uggghgh....that studio has way too much quality talent to waste on yet another Metro game. Jesus christ give us a new Ip already.
 
CGNoire said:
I really badly want them to implement it well in the sequel but you are correct. Its gotta be the best 1st person integration ive seen hands down. Like it was designed for a VR. 1st person car chase combat with the police is so intense in the game.
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Yeah, guns and 1st person is a match made in heaven. Where 3rd person could truly have benefited CP is at the melee stuff, that would have been great.
 
Hangar13 is one of those medicore studios you should always take 'extra' great tons of salt for their products, both graphics and gameplay&world design wise. I mean they never delievered anything worthwhile in the past for once and painfully obvious, not in the shape to do any remarkable job in the foreseeable future. And that's if Take Two are actually willing to let them stay around a bit longer to make whatever suitable , you know be it another generic mafia game or something flops way harder

There is a reason why Take Two, one of the most greedy bastards in the industry choose to put a $50 tag for a new 2025 release, charity work? 10 hrs linear? Cheap dev costs? You tell me lol
 
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CGNoire said:
Uggghgh....that studio has way too much quality talent to waste on yet another Metro game. Jesus christ give us a new Ip already.
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Metro is their bread and butter franchise at this point, even if they'll produce an AAA game on a different IP there will still be a new Metro game made somewhere in parallel as a fallback measure.
I also kinda disagree on the notion of "wasting" talent on a new Metro game. This franchise has a lot in it still I'd say.
 
Balducci30 said:
Isn't that the point of nanite tho? To make pop in not noticeable?
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The point of Nanite is to simplify the development by moving the LOD calculations from the authoring stage to the rendering stage.
The fact that it's also helps with minimizing the visibility of LOD transitions is a byproduct really. As well as the ability to have very high quality base model - most games won't have these for everything due to disk size and production costs limitations.
Also Nanite still isn't universal, lots of geometry can't use it, and there is a ton of screen space lighting and shadowing fuckery which will pop-in and flicker on camera movements.
UE5 is pretty far from being a complete solution to all these problems. Ironically it is Lumen which is the major pain point now cause to make it all work without issues it basically has to run as a path tracer without compromises but then you're off the current gen console h/w.
 
dgrdsv said:
Metro is their bread and butter franchise at this point, even if they'll produce an AAA game on a different IP there will still be a new Metro game made somewhere in parallel as a fallback measure.
I also kinda disagree on the notion of "wasting" talent on a new Metro game. This franchise has a lot in it still I'd say.
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I liked 1 but thought 2 was a snorefest. Own Exodus but have yet to play it. Maybe it will change my mind? I just dont care about the story in these games although I found the first half of 1 interesting.
 
CGNoire said:
I liked 1 but thought 2 was a snorefest. Own Exodus but have yet to play it. Maybe it will change my mind? I just dont care about the story in these games although I found the first half of 1 interesting.
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Strange, I loved the story, was completely immersed in the game and invested in the characters. I doubt Exodus will be any different if you bounced off the others. The hub style open world does change the gameplay flow quite a lot though, so maybe you'd prefer it. I adore all 3 games.
 
viveks86 said:
And that was captured on the Pro at 30 fps... :/


It literally says captured on PS5 Pro. This must be the quality mode on Pro! Now imagine what performance mode on base would look like...
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Yeah I somehow didn't catch that lol. Ugh I hope it's just YT ruining quality and the actual PC version looks better. I'm so disappointed by this.
 
mrMUR_96 said:
Strange, I loved the story, was completely immersed in the game and invested in the characters. I doubt Exodus will be any different if you bounced off the others. The hub style open world does change the gameplay flow quite a lot though, so maybe you'd prefer it. I adore all 3 games.
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I liked the story in the first game to be clear but fell away from interest bye the 2nd. I do prefer more open enviroments in post apoc afairs so im still thinking I might like Exodus.
 
Gonzito said:
Bafanculooo bambino! 🤌

its a joke brother, dont draw the knife, I only know a few italian words


Mafia looks like a ps4 game in my opinion. Nothing impressive, in fact it has some questionable textures and lighting conditions
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This gives the opportunity to learn something (i hope).

I was watching season 4 of the Soprano yesterday and some guy says va'fanculo (with a distinct "v" at the beginning) but the subtitle was "bafangulo" (or some weird thing like that).
Please GymWolf GymWolf can you explain to me why some say va'fanculo and other bafanculo ? Is it a regional thing ?

Maybe bafanculo is only an italian american thing ? Like how the pronounce gabagool instead of cappiciola.
 
Toots said:
This gives the opportunity to learn something (i hope).

I was watching season 4 of the Soprano yesterday and some guy says va'fanculo (with a distinct "v" at the beginning) but the subtitle was "bafangulo" (or some weird thing like that).
Please GymWolf GymWolf can you explain to me why some say va'fanculo and other bafanculo ? Is it a regional thing ?

Maybe bafanculo is only an italian american thing ? Like how the pronounce gabagool instead of cappiciola.
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The correct italian form is "vaffanculo"

Then you have a different version for every dialect.

In catania is ofanculu, maybe palermo use bafangulo, although it sound more like a traduction mistake.


 
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GymWolf said:
The correct italian form is "vaffanculo"

Then you have a different version for every dialect.

In catania is ofanculu, maybe palermo use bafangulo, although it sound more like a traduction mistake.


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🙏
Thanks for the explanation !
I can finally tell people off the correct way now thanks to you :messenger_sunglasses:

PS : your song is crazy it sounds like a typical rock ballad from the 90's, but then the chorus comes...
What a banger :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
Toots said:
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Thanks for the explanation !
I can finally tell people off the correct way now thanks to you :messenger_sunglasses:

PS : your song is crazy it sounds like a typical rock ballad from the 90's, but then the chorus comes...
What a banger :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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Since I know he is italian, now everytime he writes a message I cant help but thinking that he is moving his hands in a exaggerating manner like an mafia mob 🤌
 
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