Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen

Harsh but true. It's just such a basic game that it couldve been made in 2001. I dont understand why devs just dont want to push gameplay anymore. They do have a great setting but the plot is as generic as it gets. the characters forgettable. So it's not like they are telling an RDR2 caliber story.

The first few hours of the game are literally walking either holding baskets or just walking. it's so boring. the odd stealth section or two are lifted straight out of Splinter Cell in 2002. MGS2 had better stealth than this. When you finally do get into some combat sections they are extremely basic and simple. Like why bother? Why make a game for five years just to tell a story thats been told a million times?
Devs have zero ambitions in every possible video game aspects. They sometimes maybe push the graphics a bit, but the new Mafia doesn't even look that much better than Mafia Definitive Edition. Other than that, a regression in every conceivable way
 
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Harsh but true. It's just such a basic game that it couldve been made in 2001. I dont understand why devs just dont want to push gameplay anymore. They do have a great setting but the plot is as generic as it gets. the characters forgettable. So it's not like they are telling an RDR2 caliber story.

The first few hours of the game are literally walking either holding baskets or just walking. it's so boring. the odd stealth section or two are lifted straight out of Splinter Cell in 2002. MGS2 had better stealth than this. When you finally do get into some combat sections they are extremely basic and simple. Like why bother? Why make a game for five years just to tell a story thats been told a million times?

I actually agree with most of what you're saying. It does literally nothing new and does nothing exceptionally well.


BUT I'm still having a good time with it. And it was a lower priced title, it's fun, the visuals can be pretty impressive, and the setting is really cool.


Not every game has to be a masterpiece. I'm fine with this 7/10 game filling the gap until the next big thing.
 
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PS5 Pro has been very inefficient so far. It's a decent 67% uplift, but the PSSR costs seem to have affected it harder than Sony was expecting. Hence, why Cerny is literally replacing the whole upscaler next year, he's trying to squeeze more out of this stone.

It gives some 30% more performance on games which do not have have any pro patches as well. I am big fan of Pro console but it is sad they could not make a bigger upgrade.
 
Harsh but true. It's just such a basic game that it couldve been made in 2001. I dont understand why devs just dont want to push gameplay anymore. They do have a great setting but the plot is as generic as it gets. the characters forgettable. So it's not like they are telling an RDR2 caliber story.

The first few hours of the game are literally walking either holding baskets or just walking. it's so boring. the odd stealth section or two are lifted straight out of Splinter Cell in 2002. MGS2 had better stealth than this. When you finally do get into some combat sections they are extremely basic and simple. Like why bother? Why make a game for five years just to tell a story thats been told a million times?
The fact that you have to wait like 3 hours before you get a gun had me absolutely livid. I get slow pacing and introducing characters and the world, but this is way too overindulgent in that regard. Stealth is so bad as well smh, you literally have enemeies just facing the wall most of the time and just existing for you to take them down. No effort or thought put into these mechanics. So many garden walls as well, like not being able to take another vehicle that doesn't belong the you, smh. Like you said, what is even the point of this game? They had 5 years to make a game and it's shameful to come up with something so basic and unimaginative. Half a decade wasted on such mediocrity.
 
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That its actually such a debatable duel just shows how damn embarrassing Sony has been this gen in terms of tech and fidelity. Their main showcase for Decima late into the gen and its about on par with their cross gen launch game....just sad all round.


Latest Ghost video. This is so embarrassing i am surprised the studio leads havent resigned. no shame whatsoever.
 


Latest Ghost video. This is so embarrassing i am surprised the studio leads havent resigned. no shame whatsoever.


Truly fuck them hopefully ND didn't ends up like them

wtf is that ps4 era LOD my god. I dont think im gonna day 1 this.

Something smells off about this game. It's weird how it feels like Sony is throwing it under the bus with its weak marketing. It's really starting to lose my interest every time a new video drops.

That's the price of having a 60fps game on a ps5 with ancient hardware.

There are 60fps games on PS5 that look better than this. Sucker Punch/Sony = lazy fucks.

And just like all of these other 1st party sequels on PS5 (Spider-Man 2, Horizon Forbidden West, etc..) critics are going to review it better than the predecessor, fans are going to be fooled, then months later everyone is going to see through the bullshit.
 
There are 60fps games on PS5 that look better than this. Sucker Punch/Sony = lazy fucks.
No there isnt. They all look like shit. From Wukong to Ragnarok to AC Shadows, all of them look like shit at 60fps on PS5.

BF6 is the best looking 60fps game on PS5. And thats only because of the destruction
 
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No there isnt. They all look like shit. From Wukong to Ragnarok to AC Shadows, all of them look like shit at 60fps on PS5.

BF6 is the best looking 60fps game on PS5. And thats only because of the destruction
Lol, All them at 60fps looks fat better than that shit even games like TLoU2 and part 2 and rdr2 at ps4 with 30fps looks better than this fucking shit, those are just lazy bastards as hell
 
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Lol, All them at 60fps looks fat better than that shit even games like TLoU2 and part 2 and rdr2 at ps4 with 30fps looks better than this fucking shit, those are just lazy bastards as hell
Absolutely not. I am literally playing Wukong right now, tried out the performance mode, and Yotei looks 2 generations better than it. Wukong is so fucking UGLY in performance on PS5.

It runs at like 600p, looks HIDEOUS and doesnt even maintain a steady 60fps

Edit: not to mention it has egregious haloing, over sharpening, artifcats out the ass, etc.
 
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Absolutely not. I am literally playing Wukong right now, tried out the performance mode, and Yotei looks 2 generations better than it. Wukong is so fucking UGLY in performance on PS5.

It runs at like 600p, looks HIDEOUS and doesnt even maintain a steady 60fps
2 generation ahead Lol, I can't argue with the resolution drop but to 1080p and I don't have problem because it's still looks far better than that sucker punch bullshit that we don't even know whatever it's last trailer runing on base ps5 or pro, also wukong on pro on performance looks far sharper than base ps5
 
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Absolutely not. I am literally playing Wukong right now, tried out the performance mode, and Yotei looks 2 generations better than it. Wukong is so fucking UGLY in performance on PS5.

It runs at like 600p, looks HIDEOUS and doesnt even maintain a steady 60fps

Edit: not to mention it has egregious haloing, over sharpening, artifcats out the ass, etc.

Wukong isn't even 60fps, it's 30 with frame gen.

You have: Horizon FW that looks much better than Yotei, Metro from 2020 that is 60FPS + RTGI, Doom DA with 60FPS+RTGI, Indiana Jones with 60FPS+RTGI, The Last of Us Part 1 mentioned already, Hellblade 2 even?
 
The most ridiculous part about sucker punch laziness that they have arguably a machine with 10x more power than last gen machines alongside mid upgrade of it and all they can do on 5 years is increase the frame rate and resolution lol, even TLOU part 1 remake which basically developed on 1 year running on same last gen engine have better graphics improvements than goty alongside resolution and frame rate
 
And just like all of these other 1st party sequels on PS5 (Spider-Man 2, Horizon Forbidden West, etc..) critics are going to review it better than the predecessor, fans are going to be fooled, then months later everyone is going to see through the bullshit.
Who knows, as a complete package this game might actually end up being better than the first in terms of lessons learned re: structure and world building. It's really hard to tell based on these previews but hearing them abandon some of the redundant open-world clichés might end up being an improvement. I wish they would expound on that stuff more than showing all this fighting footage full of Hershey's syrup.

I very much side with your cynicism, though – game's not looking very promising right now.
 
They at least based on their documentation have used some rt features s on PS5 which not the case of yoti

They used RT to line cube maps 1:1 with geometry. They also did some machine learning with textures I think.

But game is mostly just PS4 version in higher resolution and with better performance,
 
They used RT to line cube maps 1:1 with geometry. They also did some machine learning with textures I think.

But game is mostly just PS4 version in higher resolution and with better performance,
Even they're also lazy, at least they do some efforts unlike those sucker punch bastards
 
Alright you guys win.

THIS LOOKS SO BAD. WHAT THE FUCKKKK!?!?!?!?!?



holy shit. what is happening over at sony?

It's the unfortunate issue with Miike mode. With the camera being so close you're constantly looking at the character and game textures. I suspect some in this thread will probably turn that mode off.
 
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