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[milanbaros]

Who do you believe are the greatest humans ever? Who has changed the course of our existence for the better? Who has made us understand more about our lives?

It can be explorers, scientists, philosophers, politicians, authors, artists... anyone so long as you give a reason.

When thinking about this I avoided people like Neil Armstrong because what they have done would've happened without them but its up to you if you take that approach.

My vote goes to Sir Isaac Newton because of the discorveries he made were so original and unique. He is considered the greatest mathematician of all time. So much of science and maths today is down to him. I can't imagine the mind that discovered gravity.

Now, your suggestions?

 

[Tabris]

Depends.

Greatest in a good way or greatest in terms of the amount of change that person brought?

 

[darscot]

As a Canuck Terry Fox is high on my list. Not that he changed the world but he gave it everything he had.

 

[ToxicAdam]

The only person I admire is Teddy Roosevelt. That doesn't mean he is a great man though.

 

[milanbaros]

I think greatest in what they achieved (a good way) but its up to you.

 

[truffleshuffle83]

newton did provide many of the fundamental things we use today. calculus would not exist if it werent him as well as much of todays technology. but i would imagine that jesus would be considered teh greatest human to ever live

 

[Matlock]

"Don't have an orgasm on me, honey!"

 

[Doc Holliday]

IBJ or IBK

in before jordan/Kerr

 

[Drozmight]

newton did provide many of the fundamental things we use today. calculus would not exist if it werent him as well as much of todays technology. but i would imagine that jesus would be considered teh greatest human to ever live

I don't think he invented calculus? I know he taught himself calculus. Probably, his successor Einstein should be on the list also.

Probably... Socrates... Nikola Tesla... I donno, Shakespeare.

 

[Boogie]

Jesus, but he was also God, so maybe he doesn't count

 

[WordofGod]

"Your attitude should be the same that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not demand and cling to his rights as God. He made himself nothing; he took the humble position of a slave and appeared in human form. And in human form he obediently humbled himself even further by dying a criminal's death on a cross." Philippians 2:5-8

Greatest Human Being Ever? Jesus the Christ!

 

[Drozmight]

Actually... I just thought of this but I can't remember the name. I saw a documentary on an italian family that protected many of the other great thinkers of the rena. from the church's wrath. All about how it would probably never have happened without them.

 

[ManDudeChild]

Well I think there have been many great people in history, but I don't think there's any sort of criteria that can be used for the "greatest." However, I don't think a silly carpenter should fit. But I think people such as Sir Isaac Newton and Terry Fox are certainly great people ... but I'm sure there are many unknown great people that have contributed to the world in ways that we don't know of.

 

[truffleshuffle83]

newton was one of the founders of modern calculus as we know it

edit* i thought about einstein too, but his theories wouldnt have been possible without newton, then again newton wouldnt have been able to do much without earlier greek and egyptian math, so i guess jesus is the winner

 

[Zelda-Bitch]

sigh... how did i know jesus would make the list? heh

 

[Blackace]

my vote would be me!


But really, MLK Jr. has to be up there. For getting so much done without being voilent even though he had much reason to be...

 

[Boogie]

sigh... how did i know jesus would make the list? heh

Well, he's the obvious choice for any Christian.

But outside of religion, the very question seems absolutely absurd to me. How can you possibly single out a single human being as being "Greater" than every single other human being in existence? Anyone you pick will be a flawed and narrow choice.

 

[Tabris]

The first human that had the realization on how to sustain and cultivate fire.

 

[Hooker]

Imhotep > Newton.


I also have Da Vinci in high regards, along with Michelangelo and other artists.

 

[SwordofIslam]

Prophet Muhammmad (Peace be upon him) is the greatest out of all humans.
Want proof here you go:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...103-0261672-9777408?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

That was written by a non-muslim (I was shocked) who studied all the explorers, scientists, philosophers, politicians, authors, artists and so on and came out and said Muhammad is the best out of all of them.

Isaac Newton #2
and Jesus #3

 

[Musashi Wins!]

That was written by a non-muslim (I was shocked) who studied all the explorers, scientists, philosophers, politicians, authors, artists and so on and came out and said Muhammad is the best out of all of them.

His argument was one of influence just in case anyone here is defining greatness differently. Fun book to page through, btw.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

Prophet Muhammmad (Peace be upon him) is the greatest out of all humans.
Want proof here you go:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...103-0261672-9777408?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

That was written by a non-muslim (I was shocked) who studied all the explorers, scientists, philosophers, politicians, authors, artists and so on and came out and said Muhammad is the best out of all of them.

Isaac Newton #2
and Jesus #3

Thanks! I was just about to post this very thing. I remember when this was released a few years back and thought it was interesting where different people fell. Of course it's all kind of subjective.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

scott baio

 

[SwordofIslam]

His argument was one of influence just in case anyone here is defining greatness differently. Fun book to page through, btw.

Yes, but this should say something that his (peace be upon him) life needs to be studied and explored. Like you said he (pbuh) is the #1 most influence person in the world out of all the explorers, scientists, philosophers, politicians, authors, artists and so on.

 

[KingGondo]

Jesus, but he was also God, so maybe he doesn't count

Just what I was thinking.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Nothing else matters.

 

[Tabris]

My answer is the correct one

I don't remember where this quote is from, but it always kind of stuck with me...

"Man has always feared the darkness, so he scrapes away at its edges with fire."

 

[Triumph]

I'm partial to Laetita Casta

What? We're being serious? Well, Buddha, Karl Marx and Ralph Nader are all very respectible people in my eyes.

 

[Sean ConnerOWN3D]

Waaaait a minute, this post isn't about me at all...

 

[bob_arctor]

As close to a real-life Superhero as we're ever gonna get.

 

[Nerevar]

Easy, it's

Alexander the Great.

Seriously though, without him western culture would not have diffused throughout asia minor and the middle east / persia and the basis for all future European / central Asian cultural history would not have taken place (and I doubt Jesus would've been more than a blip on the map)

Yes, but this should say something that his (peace be upon him) life needs to be studied and explored. Like you said he (pbuh) is the #1 most influence person in the world out of all the explorers, scientists, philosophers, politicians, authors, artists and so on.

Well, influential =/= great. I mean, you could make a rather compelling argument that Hitler was the most influential person of the modern era, but I wouldn't consider him a "great person". And no, I'm not comparing Hitler to Mohammed, so don't flip out.

 

[FiRez]

This remind me some poll in '99 on a&e about the personality of the millenium , and they choosed Guttember, you know with his invetion the information about the world started to begin avaible to the masses.

 

[SwordofIslam]

Well, influential =/= great. I mean, you could make a rather compelling argument that Hitler was the most influential person of the modern era, but I wouldn't consider him a "great person". And no, I'm not comparing Hitler to Mohammed, so don't flip out.

Well it would all depend on what that person did to influential the people. If someone did something bad to influential people that would make him a bad person and if they did something good that would make them a good person in this case a great person.

Well to me Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the greatest person of all time and #1 influential person of all time.

What that book did was it put both good and bad influential of people of history, also hitler is in that book too I forgot but I think his around 30 something or 40, 50 I forgot.
Also note that good over comes evil (bad).

 

[WARCOCK]

"He is considered the greatest mathematician of all time."

Bitch, please! also no.

Newton is pimped WAYYY too much in the united states.

Greatest human being? JESUS!!11

 

[Hitokage]

newton did provide many of the fundamental things we use today. calculus would not exist if it werent him as well as much of todays technology. but i would imagine that jesus would be considered teh greatest human to ever live

"Bitch, please."

 

[olimario]

This remind me some poll in '99 on a&e about the personality of the millenium , and they choosed Guttember, you know with his invetion the information about the world started to begin avaible to the masses.

Gutenberg?

 

[FiRez]

Gutenberg?

Yes, sorry I can't edit my post and the english is not my 1st language. it seems a good choice IMHO because that started the global spreading of the ideas, knowledge, findings, education.

 

[Loki]

"Bitch, please."

:lol

Didn't they independently and concurrently discover/invent calculus, though? At least that's what I recall reading...

 

[Hitokage]

:lol

Didn't they independently discover/invent calculus concurrently, though? At least that's what I recall reading...

Yeah, but the terminology and much of the notation we use today was from Leibniz.

 

[Loki]

Yeah, but the terminology and much of the notation we use today was from Leibniz.

Well, DUH.

 

[olimario]

Wasn't the movable type invented long before Gutenberg did it? I thought the Chinese invented it.

 

[Triumph]

Wasn't the movable type invented long before Gutenberg did it? I thought the Chinese invented it.

They're not white, they don't count in history. You of all people should know this, Oligario.

 

[levious]

two posts by Loki and no mention of...

 

[WARCOCK]

Leibniz published it first , his proofs were much more elegant(especially about integration) and like hito said his notation is used today. It is said that Newton actually "discovered" or formulated calculus before Leibniz. But to be honest, i dont put too much faith in 500 year old copyright claims. What is certain though is that Leibniz DID publish it first and was much more eloquent.

Honestly though the recorded historical facts about mathematics are questionable during that era. For example, L'hospital rule which is commonly thought as originating from Guillaume de L' Hospital was actually formulated by Blaise Pascale. L'Hospital payed Pascale to solve this given question, he got the copyrights.

 

[pj]

I say davinci, simply because he owned at so many things.

"Leonardo da Vinci (April 15, 1452 – May 2, 1519) was an Italian Renaissance architect, musician, anatomist, inventor, engineer, sculptor, geometer, and painter. He has been described as the archetype of the "Renaissance man" and as a universal genius. Leonardo is famous for his masterly paintings, such as The Last Supper and Mona Lisa. He is also known for designing many inventions that anticipated modern technology but were rarely constructed in his lifetime. In addition, he helped advance the study of anatomy, astronomy, and civil engineering."

Who else knew so much about so many completely unrelated fields?


If time travel were possible, I'd devote the rest of my life to learning old italian so I could talk to him..

 

[truffleshuffle83]

I mean, you could make a rather compelling argument that Hitler was the most influential person of the modern era

influential? i guess by threatening death people have no choice but to follow you

 

[bionic77]

two posts by Loki and no mention of...

Loki is in love with Kobe these days.

And to answer the topic, it is a tie between Ben Roethlisberger and Mohammad Ali.

 

[border]

Jesus isn't a human being -- he doesn't count.

 

[levious]

Loki is in love with Kobe these days.

If by love you mean the sort of emotions felt by a jaded ex-lover turned stalker, then I guess I see what you mean.

 

[Loki]

If by love you mean the sort of emotions felt by a jaded ex-lover turned stalker, then I guess I see what you mean.

Hah, and here I thought that by your initial comment you meant Jesus, not Jordan. TSC TSC, guys. For shame.