I can't believe I listened to that DUMPSTER FIRE leak version of Kill V Maim a hundred times over the last two days what the FUCK was I thinking holy shit the real version is N I G H T and F U C K I N G D A Y somebody hold meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Grimes - Art Angels |OT| Out now! Welcome to REALiTi
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kitchenmotors
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First impressions, she went too pop
And the guy who said Visions only had 3 or 4 good songs, wtf son?
I don't really consider this album too pop. It's still pretty experimental, I think people are just so used to Grimes being really out there in terms of her production. Even though this album varies in sound, it's her most cohesive album yet.
Can't really understand why people want hero make Visions pt. 2. Grimes has always grown as an artist, I mean, she was making albums in Garage Band for Christ sake. This is just the next step in her maturing as an artist.
Grimes has never been "out there". This is by far her weirdest album, her first where she really embraces an identity instead of hiding behind a shroud of generic reverb.
It's barely any different.
It's barely any different.
I was really prepared to hate this, but I actually kinda like it. Very much reminds me of Charlie XCX or Sky Ferreira. Not sure how long I'll listen to it. I kept coming back to Visions, but stuff like this I usually tend to listen to a few times and forget about. Still find it hilarious how she disowned Oblivion which is one of the best songs of the last 5 years and then makes a pop album.
Listened to it on the way to work this morning.
I guess Flesh and Blood was not the outlier. It's all a little too relentlessly upbeat and poppy for me. Had to shut it off halfway through. It was giving me 90's alt teen pop teas. It's not a bad album and I can see some people really loving it... just was not doing it for me at all.
I guess Flesh and Blood was not the outlier. It's all a little too relentlessly upbeat and poppy for me. Had to shut it off halfway through. It was giving me 90's alt teen pop teas. It's not a bad album and I can see some people really loving it... just was not doing it for me at all.
crooked spin
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Yeah, I'm starting to think this.
It's Grimes' natural progression, career-wise and sound-wise.
I really, really love it. There's always a moment of hesitation and worry when an artist you love puts out a new album (especially after having to follow up a masterpiece), but I think this album is pretty wonderful. It's definitely more pop orientated, which I know is something that she strived for since the beginning. Venus Fly is fucking incredible, and the new version of Realti sounds fantastic (although I might just prefer the lost unmastered version more, but that may be only cause I've listened to it so much).
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
First impressions, she went too pop
And the guy who said Visions only had 3 or 4 good songs, wtf son?
I'm the guy who said that Visions only had 3 good songs. That is because it is true, and I only like the first song because it gets me in the mood for the only two songs that matter.
The rest of that album is junk. This album too, I've only listened to it twice, seems to follow a similar trend. 3-4 good songs, and a bunch of noise. I'm indifferent to the differences in 'Realiti', I like them both.
Too pop doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. If she went 100% pop, she might accidentally make a great album instead of a few great songs in a sea of mediocrity. Scratch that.
Shit, I can't really say that. I did enjoy this whole album a lot more the second time, which never happened for Visions. I need another listen this afternoon.
Freyjadour
Member
Sorry, not sorry
Realiti sounds a little better I guess.
Realiti sounds a little better I guess.
Jugendstil
Member
The album is really impressive in how confident it is. She really doubled down on the pop sound, but still kept it weird enough that it sounds like a Grimes album. It's almost a deconstruction of a pop album. It makes me really excited to see what she does when she starts producing tracks for other artists, she's a mad genius.
It's pretty great after one listen. Servbot you are insane if you think her past stuff is "tripe" and you love this.
"Realiti" is probably my favorite but I prefer the more subdued sounding earlier version. I agree overall the album feels a little too poppy/uppity for my tastes.... I like how "Visions" felt like some weird meditation yet still catchy. There aren't any songs quite like "Genesis" or "Oblivion" on here so I'm not really sure if she'll see any further breakout success. I can't wait to smoke a bowl later and give another listen...
"Realiti" is probably my favorite but I prefer the more subdued sounding earlier version. I agree overall the album feels a little too poppy/uppity for my tastes.... I like how "Visions" felt like some weird meditation yet still catchy. There aren't any songs quite like "Genesis" or "Oblivion" on here so I'm not really sure if she'll see any further breakout success. I can't wait to smoke a bowl later and give another listen...
teruterubozu
Member
Yeah the new Floating Points is excellent. Very Miles Davis.
I strenuously disagree.
PassiveObserver
Member
So much more poppy than what I usually go for, even moreso than Visions and Purity Ring's stuff. At least those records have gloom-pop moments, while Art Angels is a straight sugar rush. I mean, if I listen to this and like it, I reasonably may listen to CRJ and Charlii XCX and enjoy them too, right? I can't listen to this without like a knowing smirk. It's catchy and I love Grimes, but this leaves me questioning.
first impression: not bad! don't love it but it's a decent enough record. some track notes:
California - this is great. maybe my favorite track. In a weird way reminds me of Contra-era VW's more processed songs.
Scream - still fairly interesting, and definitely doesn't belong on the album. Grimes may say every song on here is soooo different but they all fit together neatly other than this, and its relative eclecticism doesn't improve the album in any way.
Flesh w/o Blood - still boring, though I like it so much more divorced from the cringeworthy video
Belly of the Beat through Pin - nice consistently fun suite of tracks overall, most don't stand out in any particular way except Kill V. Maim which rips. that's a fuckin tune. Some of this does clarify what makes Fw/oB boring to me though: Grimes is relying on a lot of super simple pop sounds, which is just fine, but the songs don't travel through enough phases. the choruses (when they exist) and verses sound too similar, so even if I like a song plenty at the beginning by 2:30 I'm eager for a change.
Realiti - that thumping drum is waaaaay too high in the mix and is especially out of place in the chorus. otherwise it'd be just as good as the demo.
Venus Fly - on a bit of a wonky tip. could slide this in between some rustie or hudmo.
Butterfly - you know when the series finale to a tv show isn't bad, but feels like it's sort of just going through the motions trying to do what a finale should do?
California - this is great. maybe my favorite track. In a weird way reminds me of Contra-era VW's more processed songs.
Scream - still fairly interesting, and definitely doesn't belong on the album. Grimes may say every song on here is soooo different but they all fit together neatly other than this, and its relative eclecticism doesn't improve the album in any way.
Flesh w/o Blood - still boring, though I like it so much more divorced from the cringeworthy video
Belly of the Beat through Pin - nice consistently fun suite of tracks overall, most don't stand out in any particular way except Kill V. Maim which rips. that's a fuckin tune. Some of this does clarify what makes Fw/oB boring to me though: Grimes is relying on a lot of super simple pop sounds, which is just fine, but the songs don't travel through enough phases. the choruses (when they exist) and verses sound too similar, so even if I like a song plenty at the beginning by 2:30 I'm eager for a change.
Realiti - that thumping drum is waaaaay too high in the mix and is especially out of place in the chorus. otherwise it'd be just as good as the demo.
Venus Fly - on a bit of a wonky tip. could slide this in between some rustie or hudmo.
Butterfly - you know when the series finale to a tv show isn't bad, but feels like it's sort of just going through the motions trying to do what a finale should do?
Love the direction she went with this album. I enjoyed Visions but after repeat listens I found it to be a little dull. Curious how this will do with repeat listens.
I've been here before. It's okay to just like this music without rationalizing it.
I've been here before. It's okay to just like this music without rationalizing it.
Messofanego
Banned
Oh you just started noticing.
it's the standout track on the album for me. Prefer it to the demo, but both versions are good.
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I'm not so into it, but I'll give it another listen or two. I'll always have Visions to fall back on. I don't know how to talk about music; this thread is bizarre.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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If you want to learn about how to talk about music, I'd recommend reading any review on www.pitchfork.com . There are some really smart writers over there who know how to articulate their feelings... . . .k pbbbllllt. Sorry, I just can't lie to you. Just like what you like.
So I restarted where I left off last night.... at Venus Fly.
I don't mind the tracks I listened to this afternoon nearly as much.
I'll start over. I still way prefer the original Realiti. Not likely to get over that one. But maybe I won't mind the other tracks.
I mean... atm I have MC Sar and Real McCoy playing (it was the next album alphabetically in what's currently in my iTunes library) and it's the same level of pop. I guess it's at least partially expectations.
I don't mind the tracks I listened to this afternoon nearly as much.
I'll start over. I still way prefer the original Realiti. Not likely to get over that one. But maybe I won't mind the other tracks.
I mean... atm I have MC Sar and Real McCoy playing (it was the next album alphabetically in what's currently in my iTunes library) and it's the same level of pop. I guess it's at least partially expectations.
You know I think it's the Avril Lavigne fake K pop voice that's throwing it off for me. It's definitely the difference on Realiti. When she's not doing that I find myself liking the songs (Kill V Maim right now) but then she changes the vocal and I want to skip to the next song.
I really wanted to like this album. I adored the previous albums, but this one got me cringing a few times. And I don't know if it's just me but even this version of Realiti sounds butchered from the early release.
I'll give it another spin. Maybe it'll grow on me, but geez am I extremely disappointed the first listen through.
I'll give it another spin. Maybe it'll grow on me, but geez am I extremely disappointed the first listen through.
So far, the only song to stand out to me is Venus Fly.
Kinda digging Butterfly.
California reminds me of Chrono Trigger's Delightful Spekkio.
Kinda digging Butterfly.
California reminds me of Chrono Trigger's Delightful Spekkio.
Inkvoterad
Member
Pretty mediocre album. Laughing and not being normal, California and belly of the beat were pretty great though. New Realiti version might grow on me, but i don't know.
Completely wasted hype, Fallout 4 better deliver or i don't know what the fuck i'm supposed to do.
edit: kill v. maim was pretty good too. Had more of the "old" grimes sound.
Completely wasted hype, Fallout 4 better deliver or i don't know what the fuck i'm supposed to do.
edit: kill v. maim was pretty good too. Had more of the "old" grimes sound.
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
Okay, the new Realiti is pretty good. I still like the demo better, but it's not as bad as some people have said.
kitchenmotors
Banned
Alright, listening to the album for most of the day today and I have say this is probably my favorite Grimes album. The vibe and flow of the album is giving me life. Hyped for her live show the day before Thanksgiving.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Grimes' Artpop ain't too bad but most of the album is kind of middling, this doesn't even register in the top 5 releases of the year imo
The 3.5 standout tracks I use:
California
Realiti
Butterfly
About 50% of Venus Fly
Her "style" isn't as unique sounding as people make it out to be
The 3.5 standout tracks I use:
California
Realiti
Butterfly
About 50% of Venus Fly
Her "style" isn't as unique sounding as people make it out to be
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