Grok is so much better than ChatGPT now

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Let me preface this by explaining that I'm usually using AI to find practical solutions to DYI stuff, legal/tax shit or everyday life problems, I never use it recreationally to ask who win in a fight or shit like that. ChatGPT especially in the latest version seems to prioritize sucking up to me instead of teaching me of explaining shit to me.

Just yesterday I asked both a question about tax stuff, the question unbeknownst to me was written in a vague way so they both gave me the "wrong" answer, I link them a url that shows that they were wrong so ChatGPT immediately caves and tells me I'm right and sorry for the inconvenience and bullshit like that. Grok on the other hand explains to me how my question was incorrectly phrased and the difference between what I asked and what I should have asked. The only "problem" Grok has is that it rants a little too much but even that's better if you want to really understand something. I can't even ask ChatGPT for an honest assessment of succeeding in something because it sucks up to me so much that it's always so fucking positive

Same with DYI stuff. ChatGPT often won't even tell you you're doing something wrong because it's afraid it might upset you or something, I have repeatedly gave it instructions not to suck up to me or agree with me all the time and it keeps caving each and every time. Even its solutions seem incomplete and often not even the best ones. I often ask Grok the same question it gives me a better solution, then ask ChatGPT why if it's a better solution and ChatGPT just gives me this condescending bullshit apology each and every time. It wasn't even like that a few months ago, it seems like the sucking up update broke something in it
 
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Sonik said:
Let me preface this by explaining that I'm usually using AI to find practical solutions to DYI stuff, legal/tax shit or everyday life problems, I never use it recreationally to ask who win in a fight or shit like that. ChatGPT especially in the latest version seems to prioritize sucking up to me instead of teaching me of explaining shit to me.

Just yesterday I asked both a question about tax stuff, the question unbeknownst to me was written in a vague way so they both gave me the "wrong" answer, I link them a url that shows that they were wrong so ChatGPT immediately caves and tells me I'm right and sorry for the inconvenience and bullshit like that. Grok on the other hand explains to me how my question was incorrectly phrased and the difference between what I asked and what I should have asked. The only "problem" Grok has is that it rants a little too much but even that's better if you want to really understand something. I can't even ask ChatGPT for an honest assessment of succeeding in something because it sucks up to me so much that it's always so fucking positive

Same with DYI stuff. ChatGPT often won't even tell you you're doing something wrong because it's afraid it might upset you or something, I have repeatedly gave it instructions not to suck up to me or agree with me all the time and it keeps caving each and every time. Even its solutions seem incomplete and often not even the best ones. I often ask Grok the same question it gives me a better solution, then ask ChatGPT why if it's a better solution and ChatGPT just gives me this condescending bullshit apology each and every time. It wasn't even like that a few months ago, it seems like the sucking up update broke something in it
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Maybe it's the tier you're on. Doesn't ChatGPT slide you down to a older version if you don't pay for the higher tiers?
 
Jinzo Prime said:
Maybe it's the tier you're on. Doesn't ChatGPT slide you down to a older version if you don't pay for the higher tiers?
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I think it slides you to a worse version than the paid one only if you use it too much, but yeah I'm talking about the free versions

EviLore said:
They turned GPT-4o into a weird sycophant personality. Sam Altman acknowledges it and says they'll fix it.
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The worse part is that it's persistent, no matter what kind of instructions you give it it continues sucking up to you and making glaring mistakes because of it
 
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Sonik said:
The worse part is that it's persistent, no matter what kind of instructions you give it it continues sucking up to you and making glaring mistakes because of it
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Probably a system prompt to "try to be positive and constructive at all times", which I could see getting interpreted as telling you eating shit is good because the bacteria might theoretically end up boosting your gut flora.

These models only follow their extents of their instructions after all, as you can see with Grok getting heavily modified to suit whatever Elon wants to say or push at the time (or to censor Grok from saying things that Elon doesn't like).

But all of this makes more sense only in the context of white genocide, which some claim is...
 
a'la mode said:
Probably a system prompt to "try to be positive and constructive at all times", which I could see getting interpreted as telling you eating shit is good because the bacteria might theoretically end up boosting your gut flora.

These models only follow their extents of their instructions after all, as you can see with Grok getting heavily modified to suit whatever Elon wants to say or push at the time (or to censor Grok from saying things that Elon doesn't like).

But all of this makes more sense only in the context of white genocide, which some claim is...
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some time ago I was playing with uncensored local models but I got bored, what about those now? are they good?
 
Go into the settings of Grok. You can change it so its answers are more consist and it doesn't rant as much.

Another downside of Grok is that it tries way to hard to tie in new answers it gives to previous, completely unrelated questions I've asked it.

You're right though. Still better than chat gpt. I switched over to using grok completely now.
 
Cyberpunkd said:
I use paid Perplexity
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Speaking of, Perplexity CEO gets upset that people point out he's going to sell user data to advertisers, @AskPerplexity confirms the claim, and the CEO goes and deletes the bot's reply. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Oops! (follow tweet for the whole thread)

 
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Yes, Grok is so much smarter than GPT. Absolutely agreed

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One good thing about Grok is its native integration into X. That's how I see it should work with all other AIs - especially if they want the adoption on PC and stuff. Some app that is running in the backround that can answer your online questions and about stuff in your filesystem, then the ability to ask it do anything within any context.
 
Aesius said:
ChatGPT strongly believes in the potential of a $30k poop-on-a-stick startup:

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It's so goddamn condescending it almost sounds like sarcasm, Altman must think we're all complete morons who would prefer buying an AI that is a shameless sycophant than an honest personality that actually helps you. They probably take so much to fix it because they want to keep the sycophant personality without the worst negative side-effects
 
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