GTA V PC Performance Thread

Fuck. Ran into the first issue I've had with this game yet.

Go to export my video in the video project editor and BAM, my AMD drivers crash and the window goes white. Close it and restart it, which goes smooth until the game actually gets going and instant BSoD.

Ugh. Gonna try again right meow.
 
Fuck. Ran into the first issue I've had with this game yet.

Go to export my video in the video project editor and BAM, my AMD drivers crash and the window goes white. Close it and restart it, which goes smooth until the game actually gets going and instant BSoD.

Ugh. Gonna try again right meow.

I don't think that's a problem with the game. It sounds like your hardware is dying.
 
I don't think that's a problem with the game. It sounds like your hardware is dying.

Nope. Turned out it was likely the option to have the graphics upgrade on exporting the video, which absolutely pummled my computer. After I turned that off it exported perfect.

Game is quite a hog.
 
So guys, what's the best settings for 1080p/60fps CONSTANT on a gtx 970?

I wouldn't bother. There are just some places that will spike your FPS down like crazy. There are reasonable settings worth using for "Mostly 60fps" but the compromises you have to make for an absolute constant 60fps are really severe.
 
Nope. Turned out it was likely the option to have the graphics upgrade on exporting the video, which absolutely pummled my computer. After I turned that off it exported perfect.

Game is quite a hog.
That's still related to what I said, however. Your computer wasn't able to take the stress of rendering some of the higher quality effects. Normally, this would just lengthen the time of capturing each frame. Instead, it caused the driver to crash and then a BSOD. This might indicate an unstable OC or hardware starting to fail.

Do note that others in this thread have had GTA V highlight instability in their OCs even if they never had problems with any other game. Given that the game runs fine otherwise, there's nothing you really need to do but I note it in case you do eventually run into more issues.
 
So guys, what's the best settings for 1080p/60fps CONSTANT on a gtx 970?

I've got a 280X which is ~20-30% slower than a 970 so I would start with my settings and tweak from there. It turns out that, with recent patches, I can basically keep most of the regular settings at max other than reflections and grass while targeting mostly 1080p60 with dips to ~45 fps in worst case scenarios, thus, with a 970, you should mostly stay at 60 or high 50's.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=161228200&postcount=5111
 
So GTA has started to fail to launch Fullscreen.

It will start to launch, then kick itself to windowed mode and I have to ALT + ENTER it back to fullscreen.

This happens EVERY. FUCKING. TIME. and it's annoying.

Doesn't seem to impact anything but it's annoying. Not sure why it's happening.

Mine goes through spells of doing this. There doesn't seem to be any reasoning why.

Also, does anyone have the rather annoying problem of the settings screen thinking you have made changes (when you haven't) and bringing up a message saying you haven't applied the settings? Again this goes through spells of alerting me when I go into the menus.
 
So guys, what's the best settings for 1080p/60fps CONSTANT on a gtx 970?

A complete rock solid 60fps with no drops will take a bit of tweaking. What CPU do you have?

My setup is a GTX 970 o/c to 1516MHz; I5-3570k @ 4.3GHz; 16 GB 1600MHz RAM; MX100 256GB SSD

I have 60fps for the most part with the lowest drop to 55fps. The areas I have not gone 'ultra' with are: Shadows (set to high); grass (very high); FXAA only; advanced option of extended distance set to 40%.

I have managed to remove pretty much most of the stutter using Rivatuner capped to 60fps and vsync (not adaptive) set in the nVidia control panel. The framerate drops aren't that galling so I am happy with my settings.
 
A complete rock solid 60fps with no drops will take a bit of tweaking. What CPU do you have?

My setup is a GTX 970 o/c to 1516MHz; I5-3570k @ 4.3GHz; 16 GB 1600MHz RAM; MX100 256GB SSD

I have 60fps for the most part with the lowest drop to 55fps. The areas I have not gone 'ultra' with are: Shadows (set to high); grass (very high); FXAA only; advanced option of extended distance set to 40%.

I have managed to remove pretty much most of the stutter using Rivatuner capped to 60fps and vsync (not adaptive) set in the nVidia control panel. The framerate drops aren't that galling so I am happy with my settings.

whats the general consensus then is 2xMSAA definetely off the cards for a single GTX970? If so whats the next best AA solution. I seemed to get the impression for Andys guide that 1440p DSR and FXAA wud suit but I cant run that smoothly, im aiming for 1080p max. Got an i7 2600K at 4.5Ghz and 8GB ram Win 8.1 Pro
 
After messing around in 4K/30fps, I decided to go back and aim for 60. On a Titan X, playing at 1440p (DSR)- managed to do it with MSAA off, Shadows Softest, Grass Very High, everything else under Normal settings maxed (Reflection MSAA off, as it appears useless from Andy's guide). For Advanced Graphics, I turned off Long/High Res shadows, Extended Flying on, Distance Detail at 50%, Shadow Detail 100%.

I think it was High Resolution shadows that kept dropping me 10 or so frames. Cruising in the grass happily now.
 
whats the general consensus then is 2xMSAA definetely off the cards for a single GTX970? If so whats the next best AA solution. I seemed to get the impression for Andys guide that 1440p DSR and FXAA wud suit but I cant run that smoothly, im aiming for 1080p max. Got an i7 2600K at 4.5Ghz and 8GB ram Win 8.1 Pro

2xMSAA is not necessarily off the cards. I suggest you do some testing of your own, as every system is different in terms of hardware/software/stuff running in the background/OS and OS patch level.
 
whats the general consensus then is 2xMSAA definetely off the cards for a single GTX970? If so whats the next best AA solution. I seemed to get the impression for Andys guide that 1440p DSR and FXAA wud suit but I cant run that smoothly, im aiming for 1080p max. Got an i7 2600K at 4.5Ghz and 8GB ram Win 8.1 Pro
I'm not at my PC, but I have settings ranging from high (textures, grass) to ultra (reflections, particle effects are maxed too), 2xMSAA and TXAA enabled, and get from about 65 while driving (rare city drops to 58, can't comment on elsewhere yet), with driving highs of 75ish and 80+ indoors.
 
whats the general consensus then is 2xMSAA definetely off the cards for a single GTX970? If so whats the next best AA solution. I seemed to get the impression for Andys guide that 1440p DSR and FXAA wud suit but I cant run that smoothly, im aiming for 1080p max. Got an i7 2600K at 4.5Ghz and 8GB ram Win 8.1 Pro

you might be able to afford 2xaa if you lower various settings. id start with

Population Density: 100%
Population Variety: 100%
Distance Scaling: 100%
Texture Quality: Very High
Shader Quality: Very High
Shadow Quality: High
Reflection Quality: Very High
Reflection MSAA: Off
Water Quality: Very High
Particles Quality: Very High
Grass Quality: High
Soft Shadows: Softest
Post FX: High
Motion Blur Strength: Preference
In-Game Depth of Field Effects: Preference
Anisotropic Filtering: x16 in nv cpl
Ambient Occlusion: Broken
Tessellation: High

Advanced Graphics
Long Shadows: Off
High Resolution Shadows: Off
High Detail Streaming While Flying: On
Extended Detail Streaming: 0%
Extended Shadow Detail: 0%

that could possibly be 60 fps.
 
whats the general consensus then is 2xMSAA definetely off the cards for a single GTX970? If so whats the next best AA solution. I seemed to get the impression for Andys guide that 1440p DSR and FXAA wud suit but I cant run that smoothly, im aiming for 1080p max. Got an i7 2600K at 4.5Ghz and 8GB ram Win 8.1 Pro

Try this

i7 3770 4.25Ghz, GTX 970 1545/3900Mhz, 1080p60 locked for me, dips to 58fps in forest.

DirectX 11
Fullscreen
2103x1183
60Hz

FXAA On
MSAA Off
NVIDIA TXAA Off
Vsync off Forced Adaptive in NVCP
Pause Game On Focus Loss On

Population Density 100%
Population Variety 100%
Distance Scaling 100%

Texture Quality Very high
Shader Quality Very high
Shadow Quality Very high
Reflection Quality Ultra
Reflection MSAA x2
Water Quality Very high
Particles Quality Very high
Grass Quality Very high
Soft Shadows Soft

Post FX Very high
Motion Blur Strength 10%
In-Game Depth of Field Effects On
Anisotropic Filtering Off, Forced 16x in NVCP
Ambient Occlusion Off (broken)
Tesselation High

Long shadows Off
High Resolution Shadows Off
High Detail Streaming While Flying On
Extended Distance Scaling 50%
Extended Shadows Distance 30%
 
I'm thinking of buying a 2nd 970 just so I can get some ultra grass.

I'm well and truly chasing the hardware dragon.

I have a single MSI 970 and was having a few framerate problems when I went into the countryside. (I've actually christened one of the hills "benchmark mesa" because if I can get the view running smoothly from there everything else falls into line) Make sure grass is turned down to very high or less. As soon as I did that (I haven't enable any advanced options at all yet) I got a solid 55-60 at 1080. It seems so silly to me that grass can basically bring a 970 to it's knees.

I'm curious, how taxing is FXAA? I'm thinking of turning it off and lowering a few settings so I can try 1440. There are so many settings that I don't really know where to start when it comes to a higher resolution or even if it's worth it.

I'm still awed by the reflections on the road at night in the rain and the shadows cast by the grass. I've ruined yet another console version of a game for myself.
 
I'm looking to upgrade my Radeon HD 7970 ghz edition to better play GTA V, and more importantly, prepare for the Witcher 3. Where do I start? Didn't I read somewhere that there was a massive upgrade coming to GPUs? I haven't been following them since I built my PC 2 years ago so I could be completely off. Thanks.

Edit: I primarily play PC on my TV (1080p). What if I were to upgrade to 4k TV? What would be the best solution for that too?
 
I'm not at my PC, but I have settings ranging from high (textures, grass) to ultra (reflections, particle effects are maxed too), 2xMSAA and TXAA enabled, and get from about 65 while driving (rare city drops to 58, can't comment on elsewhere yet), with driving highs of 75ish and 80+ indoors.

You have a single 970? What model is it and is it overclocked? Because that's basically the opposite of what I get. I hover around 60-55 in the city and then with grass on ultra I drop to below 30 in any country area.

On a side note, this is the first game I've tried overclocking my card with (sorry if this is too off topic) so I turned my power up to 110% in Afterburner and turned the core up to about 1400-ish. When I monitored it in game my framerate didn't improve at all and my power consumption didn't break 80%. Is this normal?

It's an MSI GTX 970 and I've seen other people get 108% power and 110%. I'd love to get GTA 5 running perfectly with a single card. My PSU is 550w but I have a lot of power drawing crap connected to my computer.

Does overclocking draw more power that my PSU can't supply? I can't get a solid answer on this. (Someone told me no, that 80% is normal but the 108% and 110% empirical results say different)
 
Buying 970 SLI is not the best idea with 3.5GB vram issue. Rather sell it next gpu gen and buy a better single gpu.

I was actually considering doing this. I'm just not sure what card to get? What would you recommend?

My current board doesn't support SLI so I would have had to buy a new board and a new card so I'd prefer a single card.
 
I'm thinking of buying a 2nd 970 just so I can get some ultra grass.

I'm well and truly chasing the hardware dragon.

I have a single MSI 970 and was having a few framerate problems when I went into the countryside. (I've actually christened one of the hills "benchmark mesa" because if I can get the view running smoothly from there everything else falls into line) Make sure grass is turned down to very high or less. As soon as I did that (I haven't enable any advanced options at all yet) I got a solid 55-60 at 1080. It seems so silly to me that grass can basically bring a 970 to it's knees.

I'm curious, how taxing is FXAA? I'm thinking of turning it off and lowering a few settings so I can try 1440. There are so many settings that I don't really know where to start when it comes to a higher resolution or even if it's worth it.

I'm still awed by the reflections on the road at night in the rain and the shadows cast by the grass. I've ruined yet another console version of a game for myself.

It's honestly not worth it just for Ultra grass: http://international.download.nvidi...eractive-comparison-5-ultra-vs-very-high.html

You can see the other comparisons in that series here: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/gu...rmance-guide#grand-theft-auto-v-grass-quality
 
I'm looking to upgrade my Radeon HD 7970 ghz edition to better play GTA V, and more importantly, prepare for the Witcher 3. Where do I start? Didn't I read somewhere that there was a massive upgrade coming to GPUs? I haven't been following them since I built my PC 2 years ago so I could be completely off. Thanks.

Edit: I primarily play PC on my TV (1080p). What if I were to upgrade to 4k TV? What would be the best solution for that too?

Depends on what you want to spend.
 
Have you tried alt+tabbing and going back to the game? That often fixes weird low fps issues. Another is rebooting because allegedly GTA V has a memory leak.

If you read this page and previous pages you'll see I'm just confirming what others have found, that some parts drop below 60. I tested it myself repeatedly and including rebooting.

95% or 99% of the time, whatever, it's way above 60fps.
 
I was actually considering doing this. I'm just not sure what card to get? What would you recommend?

My current board doesn't support SLI so I would have had to buy a new board and a new card so I'd prefer a single card.

Just get a 970. It's the best bang/buck card by far right now. If you buy from someone like EVGA they have a 90 day step up program - so if you opt to upgrade later on you can.
 

I was actually kidding about the grass in particular, reading my post again that didn't come across at all. It just seems absolutely absurd to me that something as benign and peaceful as grass can bring a 970 to it's knees.

Although, I am thinking of upgrading so I can play newer games at 1440. I'd have thought the 970 would be able to handle 1440. It even struggles with Ground Zeroes at that resolution. (Well, it drops to 50 and even to 40 at times. It just becomes very unstable for me) I'm just hoping that if I buy a new PSU I can overclock more effectively.

Overclocking right now does nothing to my framerates.
 
Wow, if any of you guys are using Radeonpro to limit your fr to 60fps with triple buffering, disable it to improve your performance. I was getting strange dips in the most weirdest places so I decided to play without it and I did the standard performance intensive check:

Director Mode>Paleto Bay>Sunset/Clear weather/five star status and I drove through the grassy areas where all the sunlight and action is and my framerate didn't even drop below 55fps whereas earlier I did the exact same thing and I was getting dips to the 40's and 30's with the exact same testing. The only problem is without Radeonpro it's 59fps but I can live with that. My settings were everything on very high except for Shadows, Grass(High) and Post FX(high). I think I can crank up the settings and still get better performance without radeonpro.
 
I was actually considering doing this. I'm just not sure what card to get? What would you recommend?

My current board doesn't support SLI so I would have had to buy a new board and a new card so I'd prefer a single card.

Best card you can afford. Atleast wait for the new AMD cards to arrive. GTX 970 is still the sweet spot for 1080p.
 
And yet no other game has ever v synced my monitor to 59 fps in the 9 years ive been using it.


Edit - on a sample of about 10 diff videocatds

I remember Crysis having an issue where it would go into 24hz mode with HDTVs that support 24hz. Only game to do that.

I asked Nvidia and they blamed the game. Not sure it was ever solved. You could create a custom res to avoid the 24hz issue.

At the same time there was the limited rgb and full rgb problem with Nvidia drivers on HDTVs that supported full rgb. Again many years ago I told Nvidia but they just didn't want to know. Nvidia recently fixed the issue after 5+ years. Durante the hero had a fix called RGB toggle for the last 5 years or so.

Seemed to me Nvidia didn't want to know about my HDTV problem. Perhaps now they realize yes people do use other displays than monitors but I was just one of the very few who was back then.
 
Why the hell does fxaa look better than 2x msaa + txaa in my game? I'm legit so confused right now.

Because TXAA never looks good. It has looked worse than FXAA to me in every game where its been available, and it comes with a pretty hefty performance impact. Haven't played a single game yet where I've kept TXAA on.
 


Ultra grass just isn't worth it right now, and I have a feeling that once AO is patched back in you might notice even less of a difference between Very High and Ultra, assuming some AO is added beneath the grass.

I'm just a little worried about how taxing AO will be. We are all running setups with it not working, scared to see the perf impact it has once its flicked back on.
 
I'm looking to upgrade my Radeon HD 7970 ghz edition to better play GTA V, and more importantly, prepare for the Witcher 3. Where do I start? Didn't I read somewhere that there was a massive upgrade coming to GPUs? I haven't been following them since I built my PC 2 years ago so I could be completely off. Thanks.

Edit: I primarily play PC on my TV (1080p). What if I were to upgrade to 4k TV? What would be the best solution for that too?

I was actually considering doing this. I'm just not sure what card to get? What would you recommend?

My current board doesn't support SLI so I would have had to buy a new board and a new card so I'd prefer a single card.

Thanks to TSMC (the chip fabrication company that AMD and Nvidia use), we have been stuck on the 28nm process for a long long time now. We should see a 980ti and AMD's new baby this year, and possibly a slight shuffle of prices on existing models, but the bigger leap in bang per buck will come once a new process lets them put more transistors into the same die space. So for now I don't think you will do much better than the 970 for bang/$.

The gtx 9xx family has HDMI 2.0 which will let you run 4k to a TV (make sure the TV accepts 4k @ 60 without compromise) but getting a constant 60 fps is not a lock with a single 970.
 
Because TXAA never looks good. It has looked worse than FXAA to me in every game where its been available, and it comes with a pretty hefty performance impact. Haven't played a single game yet where I've kept TXAA on.

maybe youve only seen it when its broken like it is here. txaa working is the best aa method ive seen when looking at perf to quality ratio. check out:

crysis 3
watch dogs
ac unity
ac black flag

theres also a post process only version of it in evolve. even that is miles ahead of this implementation
 
I'm trying to figure out what to put my settings at, i feel like i should have better performance than what i'm actually having. I don't know if what i'm feeling is framerate, neither stutter. Maybe frame pacing issues? I've got everything at high and textures at very high, same with water. No advanced settings enabled. FXAA only.

GPU: Sapphire R9 290 4GB
CPU: AMD FX 8320 eight core
RAM: 8GB

I suppose it's possible i'm getting bottlenecked by the CPU?
 
I'm looking to upgrade my Radeon HD 7970 ghz edition to better play GTA V, and more importantly, prepare for the Witcher 3. Where do I start? Didn't I read somewhere that there was a massive upgrade coming to GPUs? I haven't been following them since I built my PC 2 years ago so I could be completely off. Thanks.

Edit: I primarily play PC on my TV (1080p). What if I were to upgrade to 4k TV? What would be the best solution for that too?

What do you hope to get that your 7970 G isn't giving you for GTAV? I wouldn't upgrade for a game that isn't out (as a primary reason).

If you do upgrade now, as others have said a 970 is the minimum I'd look at. My issue is that I don't know where the memory size will settle in...probably 4GB for 1080p, but who knows? Last gen - after a couple years, everything stagnated on PC demands. You could easily hit 60fps at normal rez and high settings without getting a new graphics card for years.

FWIW - Currently on GTAV, my 7870 OC can have everything at high with the variety slider clicked down until my mem usage is at 2GB. This is a rock solid 60fps for everything but driving in city. This is the first game I've played where reducing the settings to run at 60fps actually makes a significant degradation on visuals. Usually it is just taking off a bit of AA or ultra high SSAO, etc where I barely notice. GTAV textures and post make major changes in how it looks.
 
It's not the grass, its the shadowing on the grass that does it to be honest.

Everything performance related in this game seems related to shadows or AA (the latter is expected to have a performance hit anyway)

Yeah, I've noticed this kind of thing in a few games when hundreds of little reflections or shadows are turned on. It's obviously intensive on the GPU or CPU since it's just repeating the same calculations maybe a hundred times per frame. In Ground Zeroes when screen space reflections are enabled it destroyed my last CPU (i5 3340) because it was calculating how the light hits every leaf on the bushes and barbed wire and the grating on the fences but they just looks so awesome.

I wonder if a new chip will be made for these kinds of things because even though they're little, subtle details they add a lot to immersion and realism (they're the kind of details they you only notice when they're gone) and it seems silly to brute force them with a better card or even 2 cards.
 
Yeah, I've noticed this kind of thing in a few games when hundreds of little reflections or shadows are turned on. It's obviously intensive on the GPU or CPU since it's just repeating the same calculations maybe a hundred times per frame. In Ground Zeroes when screen space reflections are enabled it destroyed my last CPU (i5 3340) because it was calculating how the light hits every leaf on the bushes and barbed wire and the grating on the fences but they just looks so awesome.

I wonder if a new chip will be made for these kinds of things because even though they're little, subtle details they add a lot to immersion and realism (they're the kind of details they you only notice when they're gone) and it seems silly to brute force them with a better card or even 2 cards.

DX12 will help in those cases.
 
I was actually kidding about the grass in particular, reading my post again that didn't come across at all. It just seems absolutely absurd to me that something as benign and peaceful as grass can bring a 970 to it's knees.

Although, I am thinking of upgrading so I can play newer games at 1440. I'd have thought the 970 would be able to handle 1440. It even struggles with Ground Zeroes at that resolution. (Well, it drops to 50 and even to 40 at times. It just becomes very unstable for me) I'm just hoping that if I buy a new PSU I can overclock more effectively.

Overclocking right now does nothing to my framerates.

Your 970 struggles at 1440 in GZ? That doesn't sound right at all. I was getting ridiculous frame rates on my old 980 system at higher resolutions: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/gu...nvidia-control-panel-dynamic-super-resolution
 
I'm trying to figure out what to put my settings at, i feel like i should have better performance than what i'm actually having. I don't know if what i'm feeling is framerate, neither stutter. Maybe frame pacing issues? I've got everything at high and textures at very high, same with water. No advanced settings enabled. FXAA only.

GPU: Sapphire R9 290 4GB
CPU: AMD FX 8320 eight core
RAM: 8GB

I suppose it's possible i'm getting bottlenecked by the CPU?

My thoughts are that you're definitely being bottlenecked by your CPU.
 
Haven't had many issues with the game but for some reason it will halve the clock speed of my gpu which requires a restart to fix, its only happened since the new drivers so I'm not sure whats at fault
 
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