I've said it twice, and it's true here as much as it is elsewhere. You have folk like Retro, who can make a decent enough argument even if he could make the same points, just as effective, in a fraction of the words, but at the same time you have others that can say shit like this:
with a straight face.
Someone, not in Beta, telling people, who are, that their concerns about the combat are misplaced because they need to learn how to play. Not even going to comment on the "my buddy in Beta said" shit. There were legitimate concerns raised and moderately decent discussion surrounding them in the initial reddit post that stirred the nest. Keep in mind that reddit has had a huge boner for GW2 for a while now. Dismissing all of this with a "I don't know/think that they're really in Beta...", "They just need to L2P", "This isn't WoW/etc." or the ever-present "It's ONLY BETA" just makes me want to close the tab and move along.