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[Prince of Space]

Jesus Christ Monkeyballs. I just finished that level where you have to jump to the top of the sphere while that weird recording is playing in the background. Took me 45 minutes to get to the top, and added 15 new strings of curse words to my vocabulary along the way. The level wouldn't have been that bad if not for the horrid controls -- who the fuck has you press in on the thumbsticks to boost? Evil Sega employees bent on the destruction of mankind, that's who!
I'm debating now whether or not to finish the game if it gets any worse. [/rant]

 

[fse]

I have the game. I'm no masochist.
.f_elz

 

[carbonbased]

YOU'RE JUST NOT SKILLED ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH AND BEAUTY OF THIS MASTERPIECE'S CONTROLS.





Yeeeah, I got to maybe the 3rd or 4th level.

 

[Gattsu25]

who the fuck has you press in the thumbsticks to boost? lazy ass developers that decided that by crippling the control scheme beyond repair they can fool the h4rdc0r3 g4m3r into overlooking that the game itself is terribly repetitive and drab compared to others in the genre and have them solely concentrate on the controls and wear the fact that they beat GunValkyrie around as a badge of honor while thinking that every person that disliked the game is teh weaksauce despite the fact that there are people out there that were able to beat the game, realize that it was a poorly designed piece of shit, and not act like a flailing retard thinking their dick just grew a few ounces

 

[3rdman]

Eventually it'll become second nature...Its a great game and one that REWARDS those who take the time to master the controls.

 

[JackFrost2012]

You know, not everyone who likes Gun Valkyrie is a h4rdc0r3 dick about it. Calm down.

 

[FortNinety]

You know, not everyone who likes Gun Valkyrie is a h4rdc0r3 dick about it. Calm down.

Damn straight. Plus I love the music.

 

[Nerevar]

Metroid Prime killer.

 

[Gattsu25]

The music was the only aspect of GV I felt was above average :\ The level Prince of Space is talking about being my favorite. Not all GV fans are dicks, that's true...i'm just going on past threads about this game which all turned into 'you suck at the game' circlejerks :b

 

[Prince of Space]

I just don't really get the appeal here. I mean, I spent 20 minutes in one level jumping up and down a shaft shooting at enemies. Wowee. Does it get any better?

 

[HAOHMARU]

GV is my favorite XBox game. Controls didn't bother me at all...never even thought about it while I was playing.

 

[jett]

Metroid Prime killer.

LOL, how about "This is how Metroid should be done in 3D!". Damn xtards!

 

[rastex]

I say this every time someone bitches about GV.


COME UP WITH A BETTER CONTROL SCHEME THAT ALLOWS ALL THE SAME FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT!!! Until you can do that, SHUT UP!

 

[Gattsu25]

I say this every time someone bitches about GV.


COME UP WITH A BETTER CONTROL SCHEME THAT ALLOWS ALL THE SAME FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT!!! Until you can do that, SHUT UP!

quickie themes...haven't played the game in months so my memory on it's controls is foggy...tell me if i got something wrong

*take boosting from the Left Click and move it to the A button which does NOTHING anyway
*X,Y,B are your weapon select buttons - change one to a boost button and map the other two to weapon switch buttons
*rip off the ZoE scheme
*rip off the ZoE2 scheme

 

[rastex]

How do you freelook then?

 

[Teddman]

Didn't this game originally use a combination of the lightgun and controller on Dreamcast? No wonder the controls ended up so screwy...

 

[MetatronM]

That stage was such a pain in the ass, but it was very cool. Still such an underappreciated game.

 

[Seth C]

A few things...

It's not that hard.
The control was done as well as it could have been.
It's not that hard.

 

[RaymondCarver]

I know my coordination is adversely affected when I'm tired and stoned.

This little feller here, however, lookes tweaked out, and sorta like he's smoking glue. It's probably something one would see in a Beastie Boy video.

This gif's just one of the weirdest that I'll somhow remember three years from now. Don't ask me why I can remember the smallest weird and non-consequential things, but I do. ... and I remember that GunBalkyrie looks awesome. It's one that I don't have yet, but that I shall soon. Since it's one of the first titles on the box, it reminds me of the game AX for TurboGraphix16 when that system was released. I'd stand in WalMart for the longest time playing the display unit....

 

[JMPovoa]

Metroid Prime is much better and more varied than Gun Valkyrie. But the later has its own merits. Non stop action and interesting, deep gameplay (if at times frustrating)

 

[lordmrw]

I honestly believe they could have mapped out the controls better, and they should have. There are other games more complex than that that have better button mapping, so there was no reason for it.

 

[SaitoH]

Normally I have no problem adapting to control schemes, but frustration outweighed fun and I stopped playing around level 5. I've picked it up twice in the last year and a half to try again and gave up quickly. I have far too many games in the queue that are actually fun to play.

^w^

 

[siamesedreamer]

I put a hole in a wall over that game. Worst control scheme ever. It is unquestionably the "anti-fun" game.

 

[rastex]

I honestly believe they could have mapped out the controls better, and they should have. There are other games more complex than that that have better button mapping, so there was no reason for it.

Then come up with a better one. You can't.

 

[levious]

yeah, people causually say, "boost should have been A" but forget about the right stick click in.

I think it was Che in his EGM review paragraph that said, "you're supposed to click in the sticks... as if they're a button" while complaining about the controls. It was one of the dumber things I've read in a game mag.

 

[op_ivy]

i admit, i struggled with the controls till the last stage, where your really forced to learn them. but once i did learn them, the game took on a whole new form, and became soooo much better. and no, there really isnt a better way to have it control and allow you to do the things you do in this game...

 

[Seth C]

It took maybe an hour for the controls to be not frustrating.

 

[Prince of Space]

Finished it last night. The controls were still frustrating, but not so much as they were at the beginning of the game. I must say the final boss battle was one of the most intense I've ever fought -- I literally finished him off with barely a sliver of life. That, combined with the last 3 levels, were actually quite fun. Not bad, but could've REALLY been better.

 

[Kiriku]

Well, it was made by masochists too. I mean Sega.

 

[BeOnEdge]

the only reason i play GV is for that dumb ass heroic sounding song on the 1st stage. hahahahaha.

 

[Sysgen]

When you hit consecutive boost combos, I think it was 24, the game gets very cool.

 

[levious]

that's impossible... you have to click in the analogue sticks - IMPOSSIBLE!!!

 

[wipeout364]

Love this game. Too bad about the slow down on the final boss ( I think it was the final boss). Its too bad it bombed so bad I would have liked a sequel. (Along with Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon, and Shenmue -> Poor Sega

 

[chespace]

yeah, people causually say, "boost should have been A" but forget about the right stick click in.

I think it was Che in his EGM review paragraph that said, "you're supposed to click in the sticks... as if they're a button" while complaining about the controls. It was one of the dumber things I've read in a game mag.

hey, if you like buttons that move in analog fashion and are one inch tall, good for you.

i don't -- and it was my review -- so fuck off.

----

http://chespace.1up.com

 

[Gattsu25]

who the fuck has you press in the thumbsticks to boost? lazy ass developers that decided that by crippling the control scheme beyond repair they can fool the h4rdc0r3 g4m3r into overlooking that the game itself is terribly repetitive and drab compared to others in the genre and have them solely concentrate on the controls and wear the fact that they beat GunValkyrie around as a badge of honor while thinking that every person that disliked the game is teh weaksauce despite the fact that there are people out there that were able to beat the game, realize that it was a poorly designed piece of shit, and not act like a flailing retard thinking their dick just grew a few ounces

[...]

Not all GV fans are dicks, that's true...i'm just going on past threads about this game which all turned into 'you suck at the game' circlejerks :b

that's impossible... you have to click in the analogue sticks - IMPOSSIBLE!!!

keep kicking ass, chespace

 

[aerofx]

This game wins in the shit controls department.. even beating out Metroid Prime. Although pulling off some of the boosting/hover moves was pretty satisfying.

 

[wipeout364]

I thought the controls were tricky, that said the game really opened up once you learned them. I really felt like I was getting better as the game progressed and the better you became at boosting the cooler the game got. Of course almost everyone I know didn't like the controls so I guess you can't please everyone, but they pleased me.

 

[Wellington]

I thought the controls were fine, but the game was so MIND-NUMBINGLY BORING that it really detracted from the whole experience. ;p

 

[Chony]

But IGN gave it a 9.0, it has to be good, no?

 

[nitewulf]

I say this every time someone bitches about GV.


COME UP WITH A BETTER CONTROL SCHEME THAT ALLOWS ALL THE SAME FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT!!! Until you can do that, SHUT UP!

copy the ZOE control scheme A, Y for up and down, left analog for strafing and forward/back. left trigger to shoot main weapon, right for boost. right analog to control camera or weapon. X to jump. B to make a 180 degree turn.

there, its a much better control scheme.

GV is a very bad game, which is a shame, because graphically its fantastic.

 

[Wellington]

But IGN gave it a 9.0, it has to be good, no?

IGN Xbox in the early days... good?

 

[miyuru]

euphonism

\Eu"pho*nism\, n. An agreeable combination of sounds; euphony.

Example:

Eventually it'll become second nature...Its a great game and one that REWARDS those who take the time to master the controls.

 

[rastex]

copy the ZOE control scheme A, Y for up and down, left analog for strafing and forward/back. left trigger to shoot main weapon, right for boost. right analog to control camera or weapon. X to jump. B to make a 180 degree turn.

there, its a much better control scheme.

GV is a very bad game, which is a shame, because graphically its fantastic.

How do you change your weapons? And you have to take your thumb OFF the pad buttons (which you look up and down with) to look left and right... wouldn't allow as much freedom. Nice try though.

 

[nitewulf]

i never really got the 3 buttons for 3 weapons deal either, why not just use one button? PDO has 3 form changes in one button and at times the game calls for split second form change, and yet it works perfectly!

ok, here it is.
on ground, left analog for moving back/forth, and side to side.
on air, left analog for moving up and down, side to side.
left trigger weapon, right trigger boost at all times.
right analog camera control at all times.
right analog click in to center camera.
1 face button to switch weapons.
1 to jump.
1 to turn 180 degrees.

and you are still left with one more face button to use for something else.

 

[rastex]

How would you turn?

 

[nitewulf]

you wouldnt! try to see it from my POV. you're thinking the game is fine the way it is, which it just isnt, its retarded! you can do everything they allowed you to do, with my controls implemented.

on ground, enemy to your left?
boost and move back, boost and move left and it will be in front of you.

on air enemy to your left while platforming?
LEAVE PLATFORM.
STAY ON AIR AND PERFORM SAME MANUEVER!!
and then slowly get back to platform, oh yeah, holding jump would allow you to hover, if i was designing the game.

 

[FightyF]

Then come up with a better one. You can't.

Ok, that's it. I'm gonna go through the game again, and find a better control scheme and post it here. Perpare* to weep!

*misspelled on purpose

 

[inpHilltr8r]

Would've been much better with four shoulder buttons.

 

[Gattsu25]

rastex, I think the problem here is that you are defending the controls without having played the competition. you think GV's controls are fine the way they are without playing games like ZoE2 that allow you to do what GV lets you, and MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more (especially near the end of the game) all the while remaining very fun, and still allowing a lot of room for very skilled players to shine above less skilled ones

inpHilltr8r, you're right...I think that's a huge issue

 

[SaitoH]

I thought the controls were tricky, that said the game really opened up once you learned them. I really felt like I was getting better as the game progressed and the better you became at boosting the cooler the game got. Of course almost everyone I know didn't like the controls so I guess you can't please everyone, but they pleased me.

I can confirm that he is indeed a video game masochist of the highest order.

=P