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Halo 4 |OT| Spartans Never Die

daedalius

Member
Prices are lower.

Also, I haven't really been following it, but I think Steam is working on some trading system right now with trading cards or something? I see it mentioned in the Steam thread quite a bit, but I don't know the details.

The cards have nothing to do with buying/selling games.
 

daedalius

Member
Well, you can sell the cards to buy games with. :3 I sold one the other day for $17.14. Free money.

Being able to make profit from something to then use for something else doesn't really count...

That's like saying "oh hey I made a hat for Team Fortress and sold it 50 times and made $1000, now I can use that to buy games"
 
Being able to make profit from something to then use for something else doesn't really count...

That's like saying "oh hey I made a hat for Team Fortress and sold it 50 times and made $1000, now I can use that to buy games"
You could technically trade them for the games directly as well, seeing how games can be stored within an account's inventory and the trade system allows that. Nevertheless even in my case it was all really simple and within the Steam system.
 
It is not revealed. And it is a non human, non covenant species.

Precursor flood powder? Monitor memory wiped so it doesn't remember it's flood powder there to infect the Halo?

Just a guess from the leaking atmosphere and why there are no life signs in/on the ship when scanned.

Are you going to be at E3?
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
I'm gonna laugh so fucking hard if Sony has a similar system in place. I just can't really believe MS is going into this alone. Sony will probably leave it up to the pubs, and it'll be just like the X1, lol.

If it is you'll never know by reading GAF.

Edit: New OT coming. Remember, I got this one
 
Stay safe Ozzy <3

Yeah I have to admit that I wonder if the mods will warn me for my MS post, although I'm far from a blind MS fanboy or a junior. I think my posts are fair, valid points of view and especially my personal view on the evolving gaming/DRM/digital landscape.

I own my own company for over 13+ years now. I'd love to work on Halo but I'm not an MS or Halo employee nor am I biased for their every decision. I'm just a volunteer mod over at Waypoint is all. I could never leave Australia (again) or my company I co-direct with my brother.
 
Wooooooooow gaming side is in full on metldown mode. MS stuff sucks. I guess Xbox One will be my exclusives box next gen and PS4 my main. A swap from this gen.

Same here, except I'm not even going to bother getting the Xbox during the launch window. They're going to have to prove to me over time that they have exclusives worth shelling out the $$$ for a system first. Here's lookin' at you, 343.
 

smerfy

Banned
lmao you guys are already going off topic

What if it IS on topic?

GoT/Halo crossover tv extravaganza?

Master Chief allies himself with House Greyjoy. Victarion rules the throne with John as his commander of the Knight's Guard? Nickname him, "Dragonslayer 117".

I'll buy ten.
 

Nutter

Member
You people and your "im not buying the one" crap.

Tell me how you feel next week. I bet everyone of you will have a sudden change of heart.

Also I laugh at anyone calling the Xb1 anti-consumer, when Steam does the same. Yes.. yes I get it you buy cheap games on steam. It does not change the fact that the DRM system is almost exactly the same.
 
You people and your "im not buying the one" crap.

Tell me how you feel next week. I bet everyone of you will have a sudden change of heart.

Also I laugh at anyone calling the Xb1 anti-consumer, when Steam does the same. Yes.. yes I get it you buy cheap games on steam. It does not change the fact that the DRM system is almost exactly the same.

I feel like people will buy it. All these restrictions are just bullshit money grabbing by companies n people who frankly are probably already doing pretty well. However yea I'm sure a ton of us will give in sell our small freedoms n but the console n games because after all it's just video games doesn't make it any less sshitty tho giving up any freedom.

It's just sad all around. As humans were fuckinng shitty shitty people.

You really think ms n three servers will be around forever? No were renting games now shit in thirty years we might want to play like someone who'd want to play a Nintendo game from the 80sbut guess what you can't!
 

Madness

Member
You people and your "im not buying the one" crap.

Tell me how you feel next week. I bet everyone of you will have a sudden change of heart.

Also I laugh at anyone calling the Xb1 anti-consumer, when Steam does the same. Yes.. yes I get it you buy cheap games on steam. It does not change the fact that the DRM system is almost exactly the same.

Weren't not comparing steam though. We're comparing past generations. Heck compare the xbox 360 with the Xbox One and then tell me if the new policies aren't anti-consumer.

What possible benefit does online checks every 24 hours really give anyone? What about limited use for games?

It's strictly to maximize profit. Sometimes silence is implied consent. That's why so many gamers are raging so they understand this is a bullshit move.

And I'm someone who now has 7+ years of Live on 360, my console hasn't been disconnected since 2005, and I own zero used games and have traded in maybe 2 games this gen.

At this point, it's really price/games that will sway me away from ps4 as the first system to get at launch.
 
You people and your "im not buying the one" crap.

Tell me how you feel next week. I bet everyone of you will have a sudden change of heart.

Also I laugh at anyone calling the Xb1 anti-consumer, when Steam does the same. Yes.. yes I get it you buy cheap games on steam. It does not change the fact that the DRM system is almost exactly the same.

I'm with you mate. Same as smartphone games or apps, can't share those or sell those either. Same goes for purchased music from iTunes. It's just a sign of the industry catching up with technology. PC software, movies and music have been progressively changing with the times, now it is the games industry turn.

The at home offline play should be all time any time. The play at a friends should be 3-5 hours, face it any longer and your mate played the entire game for free anyway.

We want more content and next gen content then we should support developers. If everyone was paying Indie devs per copy the backlash wouldn't be like it is now with larger publishers.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
You people and your "im not buying the one" crap.

Tell me how you feel next week. I bet everyone of you will have a sudden change of heart.

Also I laugh at anyone calling the Xb1 anti-consumer, when Steam does the same. Yes.. yes I get it you buy cheap games on steam. It does not change the fact that the DRM system is almost exactly the same.
It is not the same as Steam at all. Steam does not require a 24 hour check just to let even SP games work and if the Xbox One was digital only I would be fine with how the used game stuff works but when I buy a disc I own the content on it now. It is anti-consumer and Steam is not a form of DRM.

I loved Microsoft but I refuse to defend these policies. If Sony does the same I will not defend them either. I am not OK with things that put restrictions on consumers.Microsoft has a online requirement that restricts from gameplay if you don't do it and their used policy has several restrictions like the 30 day, only once and publisher dictated system for stuff I OWN!
 
I have this weird feeling Sony wont change anything n continue exactly what it's doing n nail everything out of the park. Just to show how much better they get gamers n how out of fucking touch ms is with actual people.
 
You people and your "im not buying the one" crap.

Tell me how you feel next week. I bet everyone of you will have a sudden change of heart.

Also I laugh at anyone calling the Xb1 anti-consumer, when Steam does the same. Yes.. yes I get it you buy cheap games on steam. It does not change the fact that the DRM system is almost exactly the same.
Steam is pretty flexible, the only thing that you can really consider DRM about it is needing to be in the background to launch most of the games you buy on it. It's a DD service, so trading physical media isn't really a factor nor does it require daily check-ins. So not really the same thing at all, especially since being on PC a thing like backwards compatibility isn't a concern and as a company Valve has took its lumps and earned its good will over the years despite being despised at launch. I mean even on PC an online only approach still gets shit on, just look at Diablo III.

So sure, I'll wait a week and tell you Xbox One still sounds as offputting as it does now (unless MS makes some 180 change on what they've already said), regardless of what Sony's policies are. The only change that can happen at this point is my view on Sony.
 

Madness

Member
I'm with you mate. Same as smartphone games or apps, can't share those or sell those either. Same goes for purchased music from iTunes. It's just a sign of the industry catching up with technology. PC software, movies and music have been progressively changing with the times, now it is the games industry turn.

The at home offline play should be all time any time. The play at a friends should be 3-5 hours, face it any longer and your mate played the entire game for free anyway.

We want more content and next gen content then we should support developers. If everyone was paying Indie devs per copy the backlash wouldn't be like it is now with larger publishers.

Dude I honestly can't believe this. How is it a good thing? And it's pretty ridiculous to compare smartphone games that cost from free to 99 cents to $60+ games that are shorter and shorter in terms of campaign play or locked on disc dlc etc.

We ARE FUCKING SUPPORTING DEVELOPERS by buying their games. It's pretty ridiculous to suggest because I might want to trade in my games 5 months from now, that suddenly the money they got from me the first time I bought the game wasn't enough.

If they have a problem with the money they receive, take it up with the retailers or publishers. Ask for a bigger cut.

Publishers like Activision are making record breaking revenue. With shit like Call of Duty, they make almost $1 billion+ dollars in sales and dlc. And they are the ones pressing for this DRM, not developers.

Why? Because they want to maximize profit, as much as possible. This is something the industry will never turn back from. Once they have consent, which folks like you defending it are giving them, they'll never remove these policies.

If the AAA industry can't support itself, that's their problem. Maybe take a look at what Mojang did with Minecraft and take note.

But it's utter bullshit to suggest that because I might let a friend borrow my game, much like any consumer product, from my laptop, car, movie, mp3 player, that it's somehow depriving the devs of hard earned money.

Anyways, sorry to go off topic, but it's ridiculous. If these policies don't affect you, ok, buy the console day one, but don't try and diminish legitimate concerns others have or pass it off as a good thing. And I'm someone who's been with xbox since the beginning and these policies don't affect me much at all, but even I can see the veneer of bullshit behind why they're saying it's a good thing.

Edit: and FYI, the movie industry tried this with DIVX, it was a complete flop which is why they didn't try it again.
 
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