User 73706
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Eh, I don't think Sprint and a high movement speed would be different enough to drastically affect map design.
Halo 5: Guardians Beta Thread | Hot Red on Blue Action
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Eh, I don't think Sprint and a high movement speed would be different enough to drastically affect map design.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I'm just thinking about particular routes right now. You can pull off some cool stuff atm with a running start, that I don't think you'd be able to manage without the full sprint speed. Window to Top Mid w/o clamber on Midship, for instance. They'd have to factor in map flow changes.
Unless, of course, they just upped base move speed to sprint levels, which... I dunno. Could be good. Would need to actually play it first, though.
Just Because they didn't add a mongoose to midship doesn't mean h5 is bad
Poodlestrike
Banned
You could almost fit one.
I think if you kicked up the movement speed and maybe buffed the thruster power a little (at least buff it when in the air) you'd achieve the same effect as the current movement/sprint/thrust design in the current game. Meaning map design really wouldn't change. I really think a faster base movement speed and no sprint at all would make the game a lot better because everybody can still get to places on the map in plenty of time, have an escape mechanic with the thruster pack, and don't need to cripple their ability to attack or defend themselves by needing sprint as the only viable way to get back into the fight quickly.
I don't want to be "that guy" but it still kind of feels like sprint has been shoe-horned into Halo simply because that other popular shooter series has sprinting in it.
PerfectDRUG88
Banned
There are actual mechanics to sprint, so upping the base speed and removing sprint kills those new mechanics. I like no charging shields while running and shoulder ramming personally. and it does add to the overall gameplay experience. And as for ADS, I can't even begin to see the problem some people have with it.
And slide is the most redundant ability of them all so nothing is lost.
As I've elaborated to a few people, I kind of enjoy this game. I like it, but it's not a Halo game. I don't know how to feel about that.
I feel like if we change a great deal of core mechanics at this point that we'll run the risk of breaking this game and turning it in to Halo 4 2 instead of... Call of Halo? I don't know what I'm saying anymore. The game isn't Halo, but it's solid.
If you want to play Halo then force 343 to actually fix The Master Chief Collection in a visible and meaningful way as well as find a way to bring players back to it. Halo 5 is a completely different game, to which none of the standard conventions of Halo apply in the traditional sense. It saddens me, mostly due to the abysmal failure that was the MCC.
I feel like if we change a great deal of core mechanics at this point that we'll run the risk of breaking this game and turning it in to Halo 4 2 instead of... Call of Halo? I don't know what I'm saying anymore. The game isn't Halo, but it's solid.
If you want to play Halo then force 343 to actually fix The Master Chief Collection in a visible and meaningful way as well as find a way to bring players back to it. Halo 5 is a completely different game, to which none of the standard conventions of Halo apply in the traditional sense. It saddens me, mostly due to the abysmal failure that was the MCC.
RSB
Banned
Awesome. Glad they are listening.
Next we need them to include that classic scope option, bring back crouch jump (I read this is planned already, but it's not bad to remind them, just in case) and increase the movement/strafe speed. There are more improvements needed, of course (like, for example, the option to turn off kill cams) but those are the most needed right now, I think.
The potential is there 343, you can do it.
How exactly does this ranking system work? Do the first 10 qualifying games matter that much?
I played a few games alone and lost due to shitty teamates, then played the last 7 or so qualifying ones with my friend. I qualified and got Bronze (we won those 7 games).
He was 3 games away from qualifying, we won those too, and he got to Onyx, even though those three games barely moved me up bronze.
I will also note my KDR is much much higher then his.
I played a few games alone and lost due to shitty teamates, then played the last 7 or so qualifying ones with my friend. I qualified and got Bronze (we won those 7 games).
He was 3 games away from qualifying, we won those too, and he got to Onyx, even though those three games barely moved me up bronze.
I will also note my KDR is much much higher then his.
Welfare
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Jessie.Bristol
Member
A 2 Sensitivity? I roll with Bumper Jumper and an 8 Sensitivity. I never understood how Pro Players also play with a really low sensitivity (between 3 and 4).
The Ranking seems really glitched or completely random. I have seen people who just qualified for Ranking have Gold II or Onyx and have far worst stats then I did, I mean negative KDA and Win/Loss. I just don't understand the parameters they use when qualifying people for an initial rank.
343i, can you please just make it so we can map our own control buttons?
It has no effect on gameplay balance. It can't be that complicated, because other games have done it for ages. Why isn't this is standard practice for every game?
Just because a developer "feels" this is the best control setup doesn't mean it is. People are different. Even with focus testing, it's impossible to find a control scheme that will suite everyone.
So just let us customize. Please.
It has no effect on gameplay balance. It can't be that complicated, because other games have done it for ages. Why isn't this is standard practice for every game?
Just because a developer "feels" this is the best control setup doesn't mean it is. People are different. Even with focus testing, it's impossible to find a control scheme that will suite everyone.
So just let us customize. Please.
Welfare
Member
You took a wrong turn to get from the Destiny OT to here.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
Member
Personally, I dislike the kill cam and the music I plays everytime. I also do not like the Spartans high fiving each other at the end of the match.
Foolishfellow
Banned
Anyone know when the breakout gametype and map comes out? As a gears fan, I'm looking forward to that.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I'm sure the idea behind the high fiving is that its a competition against competing soldiers. These MP matches are training exercises to prepare the Spartans for combat, so it's legitimately supoosed to be like a competitive game.
Or at the very least make it an option between ADS or classic scope
Well said
CalamityPixel
Member
It is honestly, but I don't see it being detrimental to the game itself.
Save the faster base movement for MLG playlists.
Let's be honest and just hope to high heaven that MCC is fixed, because deep down we know Halo 5 is a garbage, corporate led box ticking exercise to maximize pre-orders and opening 3-7 days of sales and then drop it like a fresh turd.
I'm not gonna go that far. I had a decent amount of fun yesterday playing Halo 5 but I simply think it could be a lot better if it was stripped down just a tad.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Next week. And it has two maps, Crossfire and Trenches.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
It's funny. When there's no lag, Halo 5 even in its current form, is the best Halo MP I've played since CE. But as usual, the fucking lag just destroys this game if you're not American. Im just fucking over it. Lag just turns it into a traditional Halo shitshow of bullshit. SWAT can't get here soon enough.
They will probably have game-modes for those kind of tweaks. Hell, they will probably test out one with sprint and ADS locked out.
It is also why we have a beta nearly a year from launch. Plenty of time to tweak.
Some people are already dooming in within a few days.
That would be nice. They kind of did that with Halo 4, didn't they? I know MCC's Halo 4 BTB Slayer gametypes use pre-set loadouts and no armor abilities and its so much better as a result.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
People are gonna do it anyway. People love to bitch.
Personally I'd rather have a traditional scope, but this new ADS isn't gamebreaking and that's the point. It doesn't hurt anything and makes it more appealing to more people.
People calling this halo 4 or worse must not be playing the same game. Just the removal of load outs and other atrocious armor abilities makes this beta head and shoulders above 4.
Foolishfellow
Banned
Awesome, thanks! Do you have a link confirming the next week release? I can't seem to find anything anywhere. I see a lot of info about Crossfire and breakout but no mention of a release date.
We haven't seen any pics or vids of Trenches, right?
I'd like them to get rid of some of the visual effects like the sprint effect and the extremely bright Prophet's Bane.
It's the same reason why in PC games a lot of players prefer high DPI but low sensitivity, and even lower sensitivity for sniper. So that they don't have to move the mouse much (high DPI) and that the low sensitivity also means that a slight nudge won't result in the aim going completely off.
It makes long range and keeping the aim at enemy while the enemy's moving easier.
It's the same reason why in PC games a lot of players prefer high DPI but low sensitivity, and even lower sensitivity for sniper. So that they don't have to move the mouse much (high DPI) and that the low sensitivity also means that a slight nudge won't result in the aim going completely off.
I would like to remain hopeful, but the fact is 'wider audience' chasing doesn't (as far as I'm concerned) mean adding any worthwhile support to the game for its longevity. The wider audience they're (pathetically) chasing is more front loaded sales. I'm hopefully wrong, but imo this beta was first and foremost an exercise to secure preorders. A shrewd marketing/business tactic. An opportunity to implement feedback and bug testing, second.
I think if this beta was to secure preorders (aka a glorified demo) we wouldn't be getting it for 3 weeks a year before the game is scheduled to be released.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Nope, have not seen anything on Trenches. Though I suspect it will have a similar aesthetic to Crossfire since they are both based on Forge maps.
Yeah, I know why they play on a low sensitivity, I just don't understand how they play on it. I have no problem with long range shots with the BR or DMR playing on an 8 sensitivity. I guess it comes down to whatever a person is comfortable using, I have been gaming with high sensitivities for so long it would be impossible to use a low sensitivity.
It's exactly what they would do. And they did.
Foolishfellow
Banned
I don't think the two need to be mutually exclusive. It's obviously both. The reason people are questioning its beta status, is because the term beta can mean virtually anything these days.
Laws00
Member
So I take it wins mean a whole lot more then they ever have in Halo match making at least for team death matches for rankings?
Out of my 10 matches I don't know how many I was placed in but I was put in 2nd tier Silver.
My friend came over so I can show him. I let him play and he haphazardly did horrible in trying to get used to the game and had dropped my rank down.
I need more maps to play on.
Out of my 10 matches I don't know how many I was placed in but I was put in 2nd tier Silver.
My friend came over so I can show him. I let him play and he haphazardly did horrible in trying to get used to the game and had dropped my rank down.
I need more maps to play on.
quite true
CloudyTuba
Member
I had to lower my sensitivity to 2 as well, much to my surprise. Probably due to less autoaim.
Forced myself to adjust to Default because Halo4 has no control over where Ground Pound hits. I'd still like a tweaked version of Default.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Yes, Slayer will be there but with BR starts (unsure if there will be both TS and TS BR) along with Breakout.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Still not feeling this game at all.