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100% agree.
01011001
Banned
the netcode of Infinite is the worst I've ever seen... so yes it is. also the online coop was a mess when they had the beta, so I'm not holding my breath for a release of that anytime soon either. they say it will come this year, I bet not... I bet it will be delayed into Season 3
Apocryphon
Member
I'm laughing at all the clowns who were adamantly defending 343 last week 
Dogshit studio.
Dogshit studio.
01011001
Banned
I wish they did, I wish to see that trainwreck, also that could have been the mercy kill for it... now it's damned to be kept alive as a barely functional husk and the worst GaaS game in history.
had it launched in such a devastating state that everyone stopped playing immediately then maybe we would now live in a world where 343i doesn't exist anymore and a different company is tasked with making Halo 7 as we speak... but that's not the case sadly
Rhazer Fusion
Member
This is so shocking.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
If you say so, never had an issue with the online myself.
01011001
Banned
I was "backslapped" by people in front of me more than once... so yeah...
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
01011001
Banned
Don’t play destiny
I played Destiny 1 and 2, but only coop not competitively, because the competitive side of Destiny 2 is a joke and I wouldn't even think about playing that shit...
DarkMage619
$MSFT
For the record Hot Wheels DLC for Forza Horizon 5 came out to rave reviews. Grounded hits this month with version 1.0 so game preview is over. Pentiment hits in November. Xbox Game studios also published As Dusk Falls. You may or may not like the games released but it is not accurate to say they released no games this year. You also ignored all the day one releases on Game pass so there are plenty of games to play outside of Xbox first party as well.
The quality control argument is weird because they won publisher of the year in 2021 and even 343i which you call out released a critically acclaimed title last December. Again you may or may not like what they put out but you should be accurate. I'm pretty sure 2023 will have them back in the running again and 2023 isn't that far away.
Delays hit all studios and while it sucks I'm sure you wouldn't be very understanding if they rushed titles out and they scored horribly. Their certainly appears to be a negative bias in your commentary. MS could do better but it is hardly as dire as you paint things. The biggest Phil detractors aren't usually Xbox customers. It's pretty weird.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Funny they played very similar to me, but then I don’t bitch about lag.
01011001
Banned
Destiny has loot based loadouts... that alone makes it an absolute nope for me.
it's like playing Halo without the balance, why would I do that?
I usually don't but about lag either, which is even more damning for Infinite... just sayin...
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Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
So you can blame the net code for losing?
01011001
Banned
I don't, I blame the matchmaking, which is known how it works and will literally force you to lose half your matches, for losing. I blame the netcode for frustrating me.
the issue here being. the netcode of the game is already shit when we only have players on constrained maps.
if we add lots of AI and an open world to that mix... OOOOHHHH boi this will be a shitshow!
OverHeat
« generous god »
Casual player ?
BlackTron
Gold Member
This is worse! Imagine Kart launching without split screen, promising it will be patched in, delaying it, and then announcing it was cut altogether!
Heresy!!
Naked Lunch
Member
So why was the split screen co-op ultimately cancelled?
In the video they literally talk about it for 10 seconds. "Oh yeah, its cancelled. We're using the resources elsewhere now."
Is it because they couldn't get it working on Xbox One?
In the video they literally talk about it for 10 seconds. "Oh yeah, its cancelled. We're using the resources elsewhere now."
Is it because they couldn't get it working on Xbox One?
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Topher
Identifies as young
Unfortunately for you, you have no facts at all. I game on PC, PS5, and yes, Xbox Series X. I wrote the OT on paying for Game Pass using Microsoft Rewards.
|OT| - Microsoft Rewards |OT| Get Game Pass for free
Yep. Anyone can invest a few minutes each day into building up Microsoft Rewards points and redeem those points for Microsoft Rewards. Those diligent enough will never have to pay a dime. This will show you how. Disclaimer: No, I have no affiliation with Microsoft whatsoever and I do not...
But fine.....here you go. My iPad next to my non-existent Xbox Series X.
Probably my favorite game I've played on XSX is Psychonauts 2. The Halo Infinite campaign was really good though. I've talked about both on this very forum so why are you blatantly lying about knowing "for a fact" that I don't game on Xbox?
C Corndog you liked and agreed with his lies so just making sure you know the truth
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01011001
Banned
even if it doesn't work on Xbox One, that doesn't mean they have to cancel it for all systems. PC was never going to get Splitscreen at all for example, didn't stop the Xbox versions from having Splitscreen multiplayer.
Why the PC doesn't get Splitscreen MP tho is another topic entirely, and it makes absolutely no sense either.
MCC also has no Splitscreen on PC for some bizzare reason, apparently 343i is not able to implement it without a lot of resources dedicated to that one task alone, which should show once more what an incompetent bunch they are
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Naked Lunch
Member
Good point about the PC versions - but I could see them saying they didnt want the Xbox versions to be missing a major feature from the other - or some crap.
Crazy because I remember years ago after H5, Bonnie Ross or someone at 343 said they would 'never ship another Halo without split screen'. Oh really...
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Unfortunately for you, you have no facts at all. I game on PC, PS5, and yes, Xbox Series X. I wrote the OT on paying for Game Pass using Microsoft Rewards.
|OT| - Microsoft Rewards |OT| Get Game Pass for free
Yep. Anyone can invest a few minutes each day into building up Microsoft Rewards points and redeem those points for Microsoft Rewards. Those diligent enough will never have to pay a dime. This will show you how. Disclaimer: No, I have no affiliation with Microsoft whatsoever and I do not...www.neogaf.com
But fine.....here you go. My iPad next to my non-existent Xbox Series X.
Probably my favorite game I've played on XSX is Psychonauts 2. The Halo Infinite campaign was really good though. I've talked about both on this very forum so why are you blatantly lying about knowing "for a fact" that I don't game on Xbox?
C Corndog you liked his lies so just making sure you know the truth
AutumnLeaves
Member
Sigh...
I'm honestly surprised that some people are just going "meh" to this. I guess no one played Halo with more than one TV hooked up with a bunch of people in the same room?
Hell, what about just four people on one TV. I remember me and friends playing Halo 2 on one TV and having the time of of our lives. Hell, I still go over and we get together and play it.
I also remember playing Halo 3 with a friend together online. Good times.
It's honestly a shame that this happened. It was one of the biggest feature of the game that made it more sociable. Yes, there is online but I'll have friends over and play co-op any day over online. The trash taking and insults are so much better in person.
A massive shame.
Jaybe
Gold Member
What a disgrace. They should have made Halo Infinite:
1) Xbox Series consoles only. No Xbox One. No PC. Port to PC later once you have a successful and stable product.
2) Linear and sandbox levels, not open world
3) not live service / GaaS, though I actually this they positioned it like this as an excuse for their barebones launch product
4) with full time developers vs an army of one-year term outsource contractors.
These would have made it more content complete and far more likely to have split screen coop.
The above were all terrible decisions by management.
1) Xbox Series consoles only. No Xbox One. No PC. Port to PC later once you have a successful and stable product.
2) Linear and sandbox levels, not open world
3) not live service / GaaS, though I actually this they positioned it like this as an excuse for their barebones launch product
4) with full time developers vs an army of one-year term outsource contractors.
These would have made it more content complete and far more likely to have split screen coop.
The above were all terrible decisions by management.
Topher
Identifies as young
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Vick
Gold Member
Ask him to do the same. Could be funny.Well then...
You do you.
Topher
Identifies as young
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BlackTron
Gold Member
Always great when someone uses a gif to respond to a giant wall of proof lmao
Jaybe
Gold Member
Yep. The Act Man explains it very well in this video basically saying Halo’s identity at its core was as a social party game, it was what Bungie got so right and that 343 has ruined with Halo Infinite. This was a couple weeks back too, not some hot take from today.
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Fox Mulder
Member
I played all the old halo campaigns split screen local coop with friends, it was a staple of the franchise until shitty 343 took over.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
What proof? Topher is a Sony shill tried and true, we all know this. At best he is someone who has heavy bias, and should not be throwing stones. Hypocrisy at its finest. You want proof? Look at my history and you will find that I have been critical across the board and give due where it's deserved. Yes it's a fact that I prefer Xbox right now, but that is earned. PS is arrogant and its games are stale and one note. They are moneyhatting left and right and they are raping everyone on pricing . Their services are trash and there is little excitement for the future. Prove me wrong you shills.
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This game is supposed to last another 8 years? This game was in consideration for Game of the year by many pundits. Are you kidding me. I guess this was just in the 'too hard basket' and they moved on. There are a lot of people just collecting a pay check over there, living the good Microsoft life. That is how it feels at least. People need to wake up including the Management teams. This was your flag ship franchise, this is and was your MASCOT. Treat him with the respect he deserves.
But it's okay, once Forge is in, they will let the users make the content.
Gaming in 2022, dark days all around.
But it's okay, once Forge is in, they will let the users make the content.
Gaming in 2022, dark days all around.
AutumnLeaves
Member
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I agree split screen co-op is prob something people will hardly use nowadays, but how hard can it really be to implement just to appease the fanbase will all the dissappointment following this game. What a pathethic dev 750 employees taking years to build an unfinished game in a world so bland and lifeless.
CaptainSlayAHo
Banned
Nailed it.
As Michael Jordan once eloquently put it - Fuck them kids
Put the effort into a better game, I don't give a flying fuck about whether kids are having fun
CaptainSlayAHo
Banned
Nope, just a poster happy that they're focusing on the base experience rather than lame ass couch coop.
Online co op sure, but I'm not a kid, I know literally nobody my age who plays coop on the same screen. Fuck the children's experience
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
The irony of you calling it the ”children’s experience” when that shows how much of a child you truly are.
Tams
Gold Member
Not our fault you have no good friends.
What evidence do you have that more effort and resources from this dev would result in anything positive? They had ample amounts of time and funding and still fucked Halo up badly.
For all the morons defending this decision, I legitimately feel bad that you have no friends to play games with in person. I guarantee the reason many of us on this forum fell in love with gaming is due to in person coop games such as Mario kart Goldeneye and Halo. Halo 1-3 couch coop was one of the best gaming experiences of my life so fuck anyone who says they don’t care.
BlackTron
Gold Member
Yeah I'm gonna double down on my opinion here, either a troll or lamest person pretty much ever.
I would expand on my thoughts but will stop there on my still very real hope that you are a troll and not some sort of sub-neckbeard loser even by gaming board standards.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Nice snipped out of context quote there mate. Funny stuff.
It's not like I'm just throwing dot points out there. I'm not able to couch coop Halo with my wife, son or daughter. So they expect me to own 4 xboxes, 4 TVs and then deal with online latency for a game that has traditionally had couch coop and was promised by studio heads a number of times during development. My son and daughter have friends stay over and when they chill from a day's activity at night they want to game or watch movies together. So fuck expanding your audience with an Xbox kids getting other kids to love Halo through a couch session right?
You're off base at best mate. Also very self centred and narcissistic to care only about your perspective. No wonder you want to be Michael Jordan of HCS-wannabe online in Halo Infinite.
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Pretty straight forward from the video. They did the math with their likely dwindling studio resources actually focused on Infinite sustain and wrote off couch coop as they get more gains elsewhere and it's technically a too hard basket due to shit planning and project management up front during the dev lifecycle early on.
BlackTron
Gold Member
He said that he wrote the OT on paying for Gamepass using rewards and linked the post.
He said he has a Series X and posted a picture of it with his NeoGaf account.
You posted a "I don't believe you" gif.
This is a lot more simple than your wishy washy wall of text up there.
Jaybe
Gold Member
Phil’s devious master plan