Halo ODST has police sirens removed by 343i

Musky_Cheese said:
Lol. Sounds pretty silly but I guess I can't be surprised. When you "diversity" only includes White women (and a few Asian women) this is the POC representation you get. Assumptions that this is beneficial to anyone.

These people are incredibly fragile. Perhaps it would be a huge benefit for the company to hire some Black People so at the very least these Whites could actually know one or two of them. And who knows, having Black People in your ranks might have a positive effect on your product like many of the other successful products in everyone's house right now. Including entertainment... which Video Games certainly is.

Why doesn't 343 and other companies hire many Black People? Your guess is as good as mine.
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10 - 13% of Americans are black but 50-ish% are women so you're obviously going to see more women, and specifically more white women working in gaming than you do black people of either gender.
 
Apocryphon_ said:
10 - 13% of Americans are black but 50-ish% are women so you're obviously going to see more women, and specifically more white women working in gaming than you do black people of either gender.
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Sure. But that doesn't explain why Black people are almost non existent in regards to game development and game journalism.

I'm just saying it is odd. It is odd that these companies like 343 release their diversity photos that are filled with white people.

Why is it that white women and white LGBTQ make up a large majority of diversity in gaming development and game journalism.
 
Bernd Lauert said:
God damn. 80% of them are totally unfuckable (unless you have literally no standards). Maybe 2 or 3 would pass as "attractive", and that's with squinting really hard and applying a lot of good will.
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1. Bottom left corner black haired one with her hand at her chin
2. Front row centre with her legs/knees tucked in
3. Tall dirty blonde standing on the left with a white/cream pull over
4. Top left at the back. A blonde you can only see her head
5. Front row near the right. Wearing an olive top with that orange stripe

Rest are firgettable, and good lord there's 3-4 dudes dressed as women.
 
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Musky_Cheese said:
Sure. But that doesn't explain why Black people are almost non existent in regards to game development and game journalism.

I'm just saying it is odd. It is odd that these companies like 343 release their diversity photos that are filled with white people.

Why is it that white women and white LGBTQ make up a large majority of diversity in gaming development and game journalism.
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Prolly has to do with black women not giving a shit about game developing
 
Sander Cohen said:
This is so fascinating about today's America. Why are so many people in media out of touch with lives of vast majority of ordinary Americans? It's like parallel universes. I think great wealth gap is main reason for this. They live under golden bells and literally can't see or don't care about what's going on outside.
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A lot of them are genuinely in a bubble. But mainstream media in general is pushing pure propaganda and they know it, at least those up top do. And they do it because

a) they are leftist/socialist/Marxist trying to sow discord to create change
b) it's more profitable to sell chaos and division
 
Come On Tars said:
Prolly has to do with black women not giving a shit about game developing
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For sure.

Just because the population base has a certain % split across genders, age, race etc..... who says every job has to nicely correlate to demographic census reports?

Yet some reason, some people think every job should closely resemble demographics..... 50/50 gender, race split of 65 white, 12 black, 23 latino/asian/native etc....
 
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Kuranghi said:
I'm sure plenty of them are reasonable people with critical thinking skills who have to keep their mouth shut when the retarded ones open their spew-holes to fire out some liquid social justice. Those poor stealthy non-politards, I salute them.
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Too afraid of getting fired by all of the HR gestapo.
 
More political bullshit in our gaming. Why?

To the industry and developers at hand...stop this pointless shit. We play games to escape not politicise or frame our gaming into real life. Americans are too bloody political about everything.
 
Yoboman said:
Cops in America are trash. Under trained, over funded with a socipathic belief in their right to end life.

When they stop killing people and doing their jobs like the cops in other countries I wont worry if you want to fetishise them

But keep thinking this is normal


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They're underfunded. Lower crime and homicide rates are inexorably linked to better funding and more cops on the streets.

Most of those killed are criminals threatening the lives of officers or others.

You're generalizing 800,000 people. 1,000 people killed by cops is significantly less than 1% of the nation's total police force responsible, especially considering some of those deaths were single officers taking multiple lives.

Educate yourself.
 
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StreetsofBeige said:
For sure.

Just because the population base has a certain % split across genders, age, race etc..... who says every job has to nicely correlate to demographic census reports?

Yet some reason, some people think every job should closely resemble demographics..... 50/50 gender, race split of 65 white, 12 black, 23 latino/asian/native etc....
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Yeah it makes no sense that 343 would intentionally not hire any black women. Only rational explanation is that either (a) zero/close to zero black women applied or (b) they weren't diversity hires but are women who had already been hired on merit and just came together for one of those 'women in gaming' photos.
 
They are acting like they are a big thing, when Halo barely makes the top 25 most played games. They think they are GTA or COD, right?

Close the studio and try to save the franchise, though It may be too late.
 
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DragoonKain said:
They're underfunded. Lower crime and homicide rates are inexorably linked to better funding and more cops on the streets.

Most of those killed are criminals threatening the lives of officers or others.

You're generalizing 800,000 people. 1,000 people killed by cops is significantly less than 1% of the nation's total police force responsible, especially considering some of those deaths were single officers taking multiple lives.

Educate yourself.
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It's still a big number compared to all the other countries. USA's population is about 10x that of Canada (actually slightly less) and yet 30x more people are killed by police. Whether it was the fault of the police or the individual killed by police (ie brandishing a weapon) there's something wrong with that country's law and order.

I don't really know what the reason is but police in the USA seem to have a tendency to think solving everything with guns (even when the suspect doesn't have a gun) is totally normal.

Oh he's reaching into his glove box for something -> must be a gun! shoot him 20 times!
Oh he's got his hand near his pants -> must be a gun! shoot him 30 times!
Oh he's running away -> shoot him 20 times!
Oh he's 'disrespecting me' -> drag him out the car, beat the shit out of him and if he resists... shoot him 30 times!

There's just this air of looking for a confrontation. Maybe because practically anybody can buy a gun the entire police force is on edge. Not sure but something has to change.
 
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Because police is a symbol of hate I take it. Including it is hate speech, no different to including official option for a swastika.

Jesus wept, there's you're Halo infinite.
 
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Amazing the same people who throw "snowflake" around are THIS mad about a nameplate
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From one of the tweet, their arguments are so circular that this is like facing a circle firing squad!

We complain about stuff, people who point out we aren't well equipped to deal with actual issues are just snowflakes too.

I tell you, we are about to have a cataclysmic level avalanche!
Shmunter said:
Jesus wept, there's you're Halo infinite.
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Aren't you some kind of soldier in Halo? I mean, if there is a game that should not be played because of the themes it engages in it would be one like Halo.

Hey, who am I to know these things? I'm just pointing out inconsistencies.
 
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supernova8 said:
It's still a big number compared to all the other countries. USA's population is about 10x that of Canada (actually slightly less) and yet 30x more people are killed by police. Whether it was the fault of the police or the individual killed by police (ie brandishing a weapon) there's something wrong with that country's law and order.

I don't really know what the reason is but police in the USA seem to have a tendency to think solving everything with guns (even when the suspect doesn't have a gun) is totally normal.

Oh he's reaching into his glove box for something -> must be a gun! shoot him 20 times!
Oh he's got his hand near his pants -> must be a gun! shoot him 30 times!
Oh he's running away -> shoot him 20 times!
Oh he's 'disrespecting me' -> drag him out the car, beat the shit out of him and if he resists... shoot him 30 times!

There's just this air of looking for a confrontation. Maybe because practically anybody can buy a gun the entire police force is on edge. Not sure but something has to change.
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Homicides are 3 times higher in the States per capita than Canada and violent crime overall in the US is double per capita.

If you factor in firearm ownership in the US is 4x higher per capita than Canada, the numbers make much more sense in people killed by officers. Assuming that chart is true(I've never studied the Canadian numbers). Per 10 million, the US is roughly 3 times more people killed by officer. But homicides are 3 times higher per capita, violent crime is double, and gun ownership is 4 times higher.

It's directly proportional.
 
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Thats a lot of female staff alone, meaning 343i seems well staffed, why do they need to outsource so much work?

The wukong demo was done by a handful of poorly paid chinese team...
 
Musky_Cheese said:
Sure. But that doesn't explain why Black people are almost non existent in regards to game development and game journalism.

I'm just saying it is odd. It is odd that these companies like 343 release their diversity photos that are filled with white people.

Why is it that white women and white LGBTQ make up a large majority of diversity in gaming development and game journalism.
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It's literally just the numbers.

So 10-13% of Americans are black. What percentage of the black population go to university, and what percentage of the black population go to university to study something related to videogames? I don't know those figures but it is going to be far less than whites and Asians.

Same reason there are fewer black film directors, fictional novelists, comic book artists etc. It would be great if every race, creed, and gender were represented equally but it doesn't represent the society we live in.

I dont know about the number of LGBTQ+ hires, but given that non-hetro sexuality isn't exclusive to a gender or race it makes sense that they are represented in relatively high numbers.

It's entirely possible that discrimination against black people is partly to blame for the perceived under-representation in the games industry but I suspect it's impossible to make that argument based on available data.

Now imagine how Native Americans feel. They make up just 2% of the population.
 
DragoonKain said:
Homicides are 3 times higher in the States per capita than Canada and violent crime overall in the US is double per capita.

If you factor in firearm ownership in the US is 4x higher per capita than Canada, the numbers make much more sense in people killed by officers. Assuming that chart is true(I've never studied the Canadian numbers). Per 10 million, the US is roughly 3 times more people killed by officer. But homicides are 3 times higher per capita, violent crime is double, and gun ownership is 4 times higher.

It's directly proportional.
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Oh yeah for sure I'm not saying it's solely the police at fault. Looks kinda like the USA hasn't really benefited from mass gun ownership.
 
ITT, a peculiar disdain for female professionals, and even more peculiar support for law enforcement. Where's Ezra Miller to get me out of this timeline?
 
Sort of irony is that the people saying "nobody would've cared if you just left them in" don't realise that practically nobody would've noticed/cared after they took it out if that tiny handful of people didn't throw a massive tantrum about it. That one guy on his Twitter video goes on and on about the police emblem and then says "it's not even about the emblem!"..
 
StreetsofBeige said:
1. Bottom left corner black haired one with her hand at her chin
Nah
2. Front row centre with her legs/knees tucked in
I'll give you that one
3. Tall dirty blonde standing on the left with a white/cream pull over
You mean BONNIE ROSS - the woman who took over and killed Halo?
4. Top left at the back. A blonde you can only see her head
Looks like a Karen/Sharon.
5. Front row near the right. Wearing an olive top with that orange stripe
Nah if she stands up she's probably a fat mess.
Rest are firgettable, and good lord there's 3-4 dudes dressed as women.
Yeah I counted 3 or 4 but it's hard to tell whether or not they're just really unattractive women.
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As actual black people smashed and torched cars/buildings tonight, (now in a chain reaction of burning/blowing up,) in a church parking lot, with a sign supporting BLM.
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But sure, take out the fictional New Mombasa Police nameplate out from a video game about space aliens.
 
Next move is to change grunts voices, they reminds me of childs when i shoot their brains out and they cry like little bitches, i can't believe that people with childrens at home let this fly for so much time.
 
None of this should surprise anyone. This company has mishandled Halo for well over a decade now. The only reason they're still going is because of papa Gates and his bottomless pockets.

And this kind of thing is just another day at 343i.
 
So from what I gather being anti-police these days and removing may positive references too police is a way to "protest against police brutality"....so fine whatever floats your boat. But in a multiplayer fps? Really? Where the goal is to kill as many as humanly possible of "the other team"...one might think that if we were to make real world comparisons and cancel shit based on it...the whole fucking genera should be cancelled.
 
Why is it that in almost every Halo/343i thread that picture of the female staff is posted? What does that prove exactly? That they have women on board? Big woof.
 
Are people treating the police as the bad guys now? Good luck without them. No wonder the last 2 decades games have shifted from a police hero to drug dealers and other criminals as protagonists. RoboCop is dead for good.
 
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