Haha, it's all good now. The last few games have gone a lot better.
Edit: yeah, it was cool to play with someone. I saw your name and was just like... I recognise that...
Got to go now though, people want to use Netflix :/
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Halo |OT 21| Battle is the Great Redeemer | LIVE. DIE. RESPAWN.
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Edit: yeah, it was cool to play with someone. I saw your name and was just like... I recognise that...
Got to go now though, people want to use Netflix :/
Fahzgoolin
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Funny. All this talk about grenade explosions out of your hand and I launch up a game on empire. Shields pop from a random grenade and I hide for 15 seconds without moving and my shields still don't recharge lol
Next time I spawn and throw a grenade and it blows up in my face and kills me.
GafKarma
Next time I spawn and throw a grenade and it blows up in my face and kills me.
GafKarma
Maybe your rank should decrease less if you do well in a lost match, but asking for it to increase is just babbytalk.
FATstronaut
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Oh ok that's good to hear! Do you happen to have a link to that stream?
I don't know, I thought ranks would be different with this CSR that supposedly took individual skill into account as opposed to just team win/loss. I just think it's not really great if you're the best player in the match, yet on a losing team you lose progression, and yet the worst player on the winning team gets backpacked to higher ranks. It's whatever though. I'm stuck with such poor teammates in these lopsided matches. Don't think I'll rank up for a while now. Just a beta after all.
Blue Ninja
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OddOne invites me to a game.
Proceeds to sit idle in the lobby for half an hour.
Goddammit Jeff.
Proceeds to sit idle in the lobby for half an hour.
Goddammit Jeff.
FATstronaut
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Thanks!
Lol you sat there for half an hour.
Are you serious? You could use the same logic if it only fired one round a minute hip fired or something absurd like that.
The gun performs worse without ADS. That's a penalty.
Blue Ninja
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Not really half an hour tho, and I was doing some work. Still though, dammit Jeff.
NobleGundam
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So does ADS only effect bullet spread for Automatics or other weapons as well??
Blue Ninja
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Looks like it's down.
ElzarTheBam
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Fahzgoolin
Banned
The whole talk about "no hip fire penalty" I think was regarding the context of slowing your movement speed or not. Either way, his statement wasn't the most accurate.
User 73706
Banned
LOL
"It's not making unscoped weapons bad, it's making scoped weapons good!"
You're not wrong, those are definitely some semantics you just used there.
From what I can tell on streams, the only real difference with ADS/Smart Scope compared to previous titles is the AR having one, and the benefit that provides. The SMG performs similarly to previous scoped SMGs (ODST/H2A). And the precision weapons all appear to perform like their old counterparts in terms of spread when scoped.
If the AR change makes it not garbage, I think I'm OK with that
If the AR change makes it not garbage, I think I'm OK with that
Halo 5 AR is already really powerful without the ADS. ADS just makes it OP
Fahzgoolin
Banned
I'm okay with the SMG and AR. it doesn't seem to be too unbalanced.
However, I think the pistol needs a buff at range.
NobleGundam
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Oh yeah don't say? Lol
TriStateTryHard
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I feel like, if 343 was at a fountain soda machine, they would be like "All these flavors taste good on their own. Let's mix them all into one cup."
Fahzgoolin
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I'm curious what rank the of players you are facing are.
I have been ground pounded once out of the 11 hours I have played. It's very easy to punish a player for trying it.
At semi pro level you rarely see someone try it.
Wait till this game is in the hands of the MCC community on the 29th. You're going to definitely feel different about a lot of things. Even guys like Ogre2 are saying it's very much like Reach and Halo 4 and going back and playing MCC.
Sprint nerf has done little to nothing combating the cat and mouse gameplay. Shields down? Sprint and thrust away and then hide for 2-3 seconds to have white bar cool down and then sprint on as normal. Game is very much who sees who first, with few defensive options beyond thrust to get away from things like ground/pound. What's that? You turned the corner and some guy is sprinting, well he can Spartan charge you into an insta-kill before you can even get a shot off.
Charge is only instant kill from behind.
TriStateTryHard
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Are two human automatic weapons and three human precision weapons really necessary? Weapons should have well defined niches, not where every weapon bleeds into every other niche.
NobleGundam
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These abilities are awesome. Admitting I have not yet to play it myself until I own my xbone but it's pretty easy to mentally picture the outcomes like a chess game, which Halo is, imho. And GP, including other abilities must be altered and nerfed to get the true "perfect balance" which most who claim on streams and youtube channels do not know wth they are talking about right now being perfect balance. Hopefully 343 really listens and corrects every little thing to perfect their formula. And bring ghandi hopping back, add toggle features, and create a classic playlist sometime after launch asap. Halo 4's Legendary Playlist did not do it justice.
User 73706
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I know I'm late on this, but re: the H2AMP Suppressed SMG having a tighter spread zoomed in, someone should see if the same thing happened with the ODST Suppressed SMG. I'm pretty sure the "ADS Effect" with the H2AMP version is a 343 innovation and shouldn't really be considered "added the way Bungie intended."
Fahzgoolin
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Well. Here comes the angry tirade of bad players or those inexperienced with the beta making gross exaggerations and spreading angry unfounded opinions while referring to a raging immature Halo pro.
Go join him and play CE, cuz that's the proper response to a beta for a game that isn't trying to be CE.
Go join him and play CE, cuz that's the proper response to a beta for a game that isn't trying to be CE.
I can't shoot at longer ranges accurately without scoping the BR/DMR/Pistol/Sniper/Rifle.
The gun performs worse without ADS (or classic scope).
How is this any different?
Hey... don't mock the magic of soda mixing.
It's like science for your taste buds..
I just want to highlight this for being the first legitimately smart and good use of ground pound I've seen yet. Ground pound redeemed.
Ground pound is kinda silly in most cases since you give up the high ground for a risky play. Most times a grenade and or a few shots on someone is by far the best bet. Ground pound in h5 seems like a "hey this is really dumb to do but if I pull it off it will look so cool"
A classic "wouldn't it be cool if..." Game mechanic.
But that ground pound was legit
User 73706
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"You saved OBESE GOOFY"
Someone should try grenade jumping only to groundpound someone going in for a backsmack. Could be a good new ninja tactic.
It's a pretty big mixture. I'm only in gold 2 but one been playing against onyx and gold etc.
I've come up with a few tricks to use it. It's really quite good on Empire due to all the little elevation changes.
www.xboxclips.com/Il+MeanBean+lI/32246cec-3327-49cb-98f7-5f623a0f3a3c
Here's a little clip. Done this a couple of times. It's also pretty good when you are on top mid and someone is running across the pit. Pretty easy to charge and track them from up there then quickly get back up.
ElzarTheBam
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343 please dont put a voting option in H5, Vetoing is the superior method.
This
Fahzgoolin
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Oh wow nice clip. Pretty sure you shouldn't be able to do that so fast at such small height.
VETO FOR BR'S!!!
I agree. Don't want it to be an other Halo game, where everybody votes for the same map over and over again...
Lol? Raging and immature Halo pro? He just won the Iron Games tournament with his team CLG and is sitting in first place in HCS. Plus, he never raged at anything, just said it was very much like Reach and Halo 4 and went back to MCC. It's telling that perhaps the greatest Halo player of all time, doesn't really enjoy the beta, nothing to be so defensive about
Fahzgoolin
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I really hope the AR and Magnum start gets tweaked better.
I don't want to see halo becoming BR starts only again.
I don't want to see halo becoming BR starts only again.
Hypertrooper
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The addition of the "perfect kill" medal is damn great. It is always satisfying to achieve it and I never thought that I would say that. I would even put "Reverse" on that list...
There are still too many medals, though. What the fuck does Hat trick do?
There are still too many medals, though. What the fuck does Hat trick do?
TriStateTryHard
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Why don't weapons have more unique properties? Plasma stun, Concussion knock back, remotely detonatable Grenade Launcher. Weapons seem pretty generic for a futuristic game like Halo.
What's wrong with them as is? Just curious, I've been fine with them.
link1201
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Yeah I really like the perfect medal, top gun is fun too. I was looking for a list of medals I have yet to find one though.
User 73706
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So, just thought of something. For Stabilizers, why not set it up so that pressing Jump button makes you jump, but holding it makes you Stabilize? If Destiny can have a press / hold Y distinction for standard weapons and heavy weapons, I'd think the controls could be precise enough to establish a jump / stabilize differential.
It'd also allow you to activate Stabilizers on the ground or at any elevation even after a jump without having to take your hands off triggers / analog sticks depending on your control scheme.
It'd also allow you to activate Stabilizers on the ground or at any elevation even after a jump without having to take your hands off triggers / analog sticks depending on your control scheme.
RSB
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Oh yeah, the grenade launcher from Reach was so good. Making more unique weapons like that would be a great way to evolve and expand Halo's gameplay. Why don't they try that kind of thing more?
TriStateTryHard
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Holding A is used to clamber so you could potentionally clamber when you don't mean too with your system. It's the same problem crouch jump and ground pound are currently having. An Xbox controller only has so many buttons that can accommodate a limited number of mechanics.
I don't think it is simpler than Halo 4, but less random.
Anecdote time: I lost a game 49-50, and I went 20-10. I lost 25 points in my ranking thing. Next game my team won 50-24 and I went 22-3, but only went up 13 points. To me there's something wonky.
Looking at how the system works, I assume it is something like MMR in Starcraft, where it takes your skill level and your opponent's skill level into consideration. The only way I see my results happening is if in the first game, my opponents were Bronze 3, I was Silver 2, and my teammates were Bronze 1. The game says these are balanced numbers(not necessarily fair), and I was penalized greatly for losing to players that I shouldn't have(but I personally performed as I should -- >1 K/D). This would be a problem with matching players. The second game, the system said "match Karl against Bronze 2 players to gauge skill". I win handily, as I should in Silver 2 and it didn't reward me nearly as much, because it isn't as important of a win. This is also a fault with matching players.
Hat trick is quench you get three head shot kills in a row I think...
User 73706
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Oh, hold-jump is already clamber? Hmm.
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