Fata1moose
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I disliked Breakout as well, just didn't feel like Halo to me, but I think a lot of people liked it.
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I disliked Breakout as well, just didn't feel like Halo to me, but I think a lot of people liked it.
Poodlestrike
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Hey, look, helmeted grunts, all is right with the world.
Honestly, I think just getting rid of the BR from Breakout would do a lot of good. Force people to get in close, that's when it got interesting; having two people taking potshots at everything that moved from opposite ends of the map just discouraged movement.
It was a decent change of pace from the other modes. I can see it becoming stale rather quickly though.
Interesting? The autos were hands down the worst part of Breakout for me, lol.
An elimination game type should reward precision over everything. Nothing fun about being killed by a sprayer.
Poodlestrike
Banned
So make it all pistols, or all pistols on start with 1-2 SMGs in the middle. Personally, I generally felt like the SMGs worked okay; even with autos, H5 had rock solid gunfights at close range thanks to the thrusters.
I quite enjoyed Breakout, really nice change of pace from standard arena. It definitely needed a few tweaks though.
I think making it pistol only starts would be pretty good. The pistol is skillful but also doesn't have enough range to cause a match to devolve into a game of long range pot shots. Having BR starts would be terrible with Breakout, having BRs on the map at all was pretty bad. I think placing SMGs on the map as pickups would work reasonably well.
Josh has also talked a few times about adding an objective. That would definitely help a lot with the stalemates which occassionally happened.
I don't think reviving would be good at all though. It seems very much counter to entire basis of Breakout. It's elimination, when you're dead you're out, make a single mistake and there's no second chances. I think with revives a lot of the pressure and intensity of Breakout would be lost. The best part of Breakout was winning coming back from being 3 guys down. Revives would ruin that because the objective would turn from carefully taking the enemy team down one by one to quickly finding a teammate to revive as quick as possible.
I think making it pistol only starts would be pretty good. The pistol is skillful but also doesn't have enough range to cause a match to devolve into a game of long range pot shots. Having BR starts would be terrible with Breakout, having BRs on the map at all was pretty bad. I think placing SMGs on the map as pickups would work reasonably well.
Josh has also talked a few times about adding an objective. That would definitely help a lot with the stalemates which occassionally happened.
I don't think reviving would be good at all though. It seems very much counter to entire basis of Breakout. It's elimination, when you're dead you're out, make a single mistake and there's no second chances. I think with revives a lot of the pressure and intensity of Breakout would be lost. The best part of Breakout was winning coming back from being 3 guys down. Revives would ruin that because the objective would turn from carefully taking the enemy team down one by one to quickly finding a teammate to revive as quick as possible.
Hey I'm all for it if it works. I was just voicing concerns. My initial reaction was "wow that sounds amazing" but then I took step back and thought about how it could be abused. I'm down though if it works.
If you were able to kill a team 4v1, that team was just awful. The revive mechanic is borderline necessary due to how impossible the odds are stacked against you 4-3-2v1 in this particular sandbox. Take away the BR and no one would be able to fight back when outnumbered.
I just don't think the Halo sandbox suits the game type at all at the end of the day. Oh well, don't have to play it thankfully.
I just don't think the Halo sandbox suits the game type at all at the end of the day. Oh well, don't have to play it thankfully.
ProvenDeadly
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If you are good at Halo you could win 4v1s in Halo CE.
ViewtifulJC
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I just hope they didn't use up too many of those 20 initial maps on Breakout
Take a closer look at the IGN Forge reveal. 11:58 The area is a couple dozen forge pieces positioned to resemble Beaver Creek.
Xsjados's remake is one of the most faithful forge reproductions of a dev map i have ever seen.
Cool, but we're in 2015 and the game is Halo 5 and not CE.
nillapuddin
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"21"
Edit: Still #teamslrp, just cautiously optimistic about 20 maps. Wondering what the distribution will be between Breakout/8v8/4v4
The Lockout remake from Reach's Forge reveal looked like it was done the same way as well.
I feel like "DMRs only" in Breakout would make it interesting. One of the harder weapons to use.
Isn't it awful but amazing at the same time?
Rag pls
Isn't it awful but amazing at the same time?
Rag pls
Ragnarok Flames
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Ghorns only in breakout
First time I've seen this bug...
http://xboxclips.com/Thorn+Harvestar/f2625c86-b548-45ee-bf40-13e224b3daef
http://xboxclips.com/Thorn+Harvestar/f2625c86-b548-45ee-bf40-13e224b3daef
Twin Tails
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Matches would last like a minute.
They were adding an objective to it last I heard. Was in one of Josh's big posts on Beyond IIRC
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NVM, it was in the last OT after we talked about his Beyond posts:
Hmmm, you're right. It seems it was just to give the impression of you can make Beaver Creek if you wanted to, rather than actually have done so. You'd think they'd have added proper fanmade or even dev made forge creations into H2A already. I think with the new update, I could just search Xsjados and download his map to my xbox through the game itself right?
Right.
Grab everything else in his file share while you're at it. You will not be disappointed.
Yep you can, decided to look and it was right there.
I didn't find anything else there, just this one map.
Kssio_Aug
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Need Gold to do anything online in Halo 3
New Community Update:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/halo-community-update-6-12-15
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/halo-community-update-6-12-15
Captain Friendo
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New Canon Fodder 343-side identifies all the MJOLNIR variants on Blue and Osiris teams
K
kittens
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Just had a really great match on Monolith. My team won by one point after being down the whole match. Halo is so good when it's good.
GringoSuave89
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Some interesting stuff. Copperhead is such a fitting name for Vale's armor.
RowdyReverb
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I still hold the opinion that Breakout could be better served by having some super weird maps since it's running in Tron. I want to see floating and moving terrain and some unique environmental hazards like spikes springing out from the floor if a target is shot. Or if bits of the floor temporarily fell away in response to grenade explosions so routes can be cut off. Maybe some fluctuating gravity, or gravity that shifts as the match goes on. I just want it to be weird and unique from the other game types available.
Forerunner
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Team Snipers yes please.
GringoSuave89
Banned
It's been heavily implied it'll be Locke's side of the campaign, which seems a bit more open.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
I can't believe that the pistol isn't silver and shiney.
Like WTF 343.
Stinklez, you piece of s
crub
Fata1moose
Banned
The Legendary 3-shot Keyes pistol will be.
Emperor Bohe
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I'm finding matches in MCC super quickly now. Good shit 343. Parties are working too!
Forerunner
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Regret Upon Approval
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New weapon?
Edit: could be a modified DMR?
The barrel underside area, extended trigger guard and grip area, and wider looking scope make it seem like an entirely separate gun.
SAW or SMG maybe? Former is confirmed in I'm pretty sure.
***DISCLAMER*** I just wanted to get this off my chest late at night. This does not cover everything, only what I think mattered most.
The beta excited for a lot of reasons.
1. I'm not a big fan of small slayer based competitive combat but I still had a lot of fun.
2. Spartan abilities actually made me feel like a spartan. (Including sprint)
3. Breakout did feel fill a void when I wanted something different.
4. I didn't experience any lag or network issue when I was in a game. (Searching for match did bug out but hey beta is beta)
5. I didn't play campaign or any gametypes I love to play (CTF, BTB, Heavys) and still had a good time with just the basics.
6. Ground Pound was a game changer and fast paced. (But if I wanted to I could use it to slow the game down)
All of the above made me want to play more H5 and I'm sure what we got was just a taste of everything.
7. Most of all what really made me love the beta (and the game as a whole) was that I could play by myself or with friends and have a great time and that's what makes me hyped about H5 the most.
8. 7
A negative...
The UI (while it was simple which is normally good) should be more like Halo Reach. I would consider that the ultimate Halo UI. It just worked for console/controller navigation. Hopefully the H5 beta UI was placeholder and will be drastically different come launch. Horizontal tiles isnt fun.
The beta excited for a lot of reasons.
1. I'm not a big fan of small slayer based competitive combat but I still had a lot of fun.
2. Spartan abilities actually made me feel like a spartan. (Including sprint)
3. Breakout did feel fill a void when I wanted something different.
4. I didn't experience any lag or network issue when I was in a game. (Searching for match did bug out but hey beta is beta)
5. I didn't play campaign or any gametypes I love to play (CTF, BTB, Heavys) and still had a good time with just the basics.
6. Ground Pound was a game changer and fast paced. (But if I wanted to I could use it to slow the game down)
All of the above made me want to play more H5 and I'm sure what we got was just a taste of everything.
7. Most of all what really made me love the beta (and the game as a whole) was that I could play by myself or with friends and have a great time and that's what makes me hyped about H5 the most.
8. 7
A negative...
The UI (while it was simple which is normally good) should be more like Halo Reach. I would consider that the ultimate Halo UI. It just worked for console/controller navigation. Hopefully the H5 beta UI was placeholder and will be drastically different come launch. Horizontal tiles isnt fun.
Prinz Eugn
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Yep, definitely a cut-down DMR. Why anybody would want such a thing is beyond me.
Moa posted a comparison image on Beyond which basically confirms it's a DMR. You can also see in the top right one of Osiris holding a DMR which also has a shorter barrel.
Pretty sure it's just the artist taking some liberties.
It's german. You can't translate it directly so it means something like mobility-armor-systems.
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