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Steelyuhas
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I'll play with anyone if it gets me off grey world.
I absolutely think there is a connection between Jones not directly working on Halo 3 and Reach and their quality compared to the first two games in the series.
xxjuicesxx
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Who is this Starwolf!? Keep hearing about him.
Barrow Roll
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lLemonDemon
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Codpiece is back!
Hydranockz
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Bringing the action back to the sack I see. Awesome!
HigherLevel
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No bloom confirmed?
"To give you that feeling, we have represented that weight with player physics, without interrupting crosshair and shooting accuracy."
"To give you that feeling, we have represented that weight with player physics, without interrupting crosshair and shooting accuracy."
ncsuDuncan
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Level design, eh?
Where do I pick up my ID Badge?
Where do I pick up my ID Badge?
Barrow Roll
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Player physics ≠ gun mechanics
Moving has never interrupted your crosshair or shooting accuracy in any Halo game. They're talking about when you land, inertia when you change direction (which has been in since Halo 2), etc. The "feel" of the movement, in other words.
Other games that are not arcade shooters like Halo tend to do stuff like make your character lower their gun when you fall a great distance or jump over something. Since Halo is an arcade shooter, they're not going to start doing that (hopefully)
Demoncarnotaur
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Codpiece is back!
That looks pretty nice, not gonna lie. With a few tweaks I can see the amor really growing on me. Man, Im digging the color and the details a lot in that picture.
I love assassination, but man do I hate how that happens.
Codpiece is back!
The armour is growing on me.
Hydranockz
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Not really. They are saying you're going to feel like a Spartan. As in, the weight and power will be conveyed better but at the same time, won't be interfering with how we aim. That's how I read it anyway. Bloom neither adds or subtracts from the player feeling like a Spartan.
HigherLevel
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I think I got caught up with the "without interrupting crosshair" part and immediately went to no bloom in my head. 
Which reminds me, I would love if the lower weapon combo was a bit easier and still showed a portion of my gun on screen. Gives it a much more cinematic feel (especially in ODST).
I hope what they are mentioning isn't player inertia/ strafing inertia like Reach...
OdysseusVA
Banned
Saw this over at r/Halo and thought I'd share
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF--VL5d-eA
Also, just got the Anniv. Map Pack. Good? Bad? Anyway, would like to play with a few Gaffers GT - OdysseusVA. My k/d is 1.59. That's good enough to roll with you guys, right? RIGHT?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF--VL5d-eA
Also, just got the Anniv. Map Pack. Good? Bad? Anyway, would like to play with a few Gaffers GT - OdysseusVA. My k/d is 1.59. That's good enough to roll with you guys, right? RIGHT?!
With each new pic I am loving this armor.Codpiece is back!
You mean the player/strafing intertia that's been in since Halo 2? If you take those away you start feeling more like a floating gun than a person holding a gun.
Also, that would be nice. I also want a Blind skull that leaves the damn gun on the screen so I can play the campaign that way.
At first I thought they were talking about the change Bungie made to looking up/down in Halo 2 and then my brain melted because it doesn't seem like they were talking about that.
shyamalanwhatatwist.gif ?Bulletin said:
Uh. That entire section was a lot of words to say basically nothing.
That angle just confirms how great that armor looks, though. So there's that, I guess.
I'd settle for links to the bulletin not redirecting me to the blog listing every time I try to click them.
Barrow Roll
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Just get rid of Blind. Metroid Prime lets you change helmet opacity and HUD opacity in the options, Halo should just have this.
i hated the first batch of toyfair pics, but yeah, those look nice.
really excited to see what they are doing to immerse the player as the chief, particularly the new HUD bits. an extension of the quick halo 3 boot up when you would spawn?
The Librarian
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I'm not exactly sure what the majority of the bulletin was getting at when talking about helping the player understand the Chief's weight.
The Bulletin mentions the Fall of Reach, so I will too. The book tells the reader that Mjolnir is very much like a second skin to a Spartan; so much so that it's as if they're not wearing any armor at all. Going off this, I don't understand the emphasis of making the player feel the Chief's weight – he certainly doesn't.
Edit: Then there's this:
The Bulletin mentions the Fall of Reach, so I will too. The book tells the reader that Mjolnir is very much like a second skin to a Spartan; so much so that it's as if they're not wearing any armor at all. Going off this, I don't understand the emphasis of making the player feel the Chief's weight – he certainly doesn't.
Edit: Then there's this:
MC's current armor is on the bulky side as well, at least compared to the Mark VI.
ManBearPanda
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Bulletin said:
I really hope they recognize that trying to represent that sense of heft and weight they want to give the Chief can lead to how Reach plays. I think it can be done well, but never at the expense of gimping actual player movement, inertia, etc.
Also, for the love of Christ I hope that the bit about pulling that design into the HUD doesn't mean that the hud is gonna be tilting ever so slightly whenever an explosion goes off near me, or if I do a quick turn. That's the thing I hate the most about my current go-to mp game, Bf3. It's awful there, the "immersion" it adds there doesn't make up for the functionality and ease-of-use it takes away. Keep that away from Halo 4, give me a HUD that's clear to read and doesn't jitter around. Form follows function please.
That's why I added the "like Reach" part. Halo 2 & 3 It was there, but it didn't affect gameplay in a negative way. Reach's feels heavy and like I have less control over where I want to go.
Microsoft: "Fuck you. Get a Windows 7 phone."
Barrow Roll
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Always though the Mark VI looked too thin, like a 7 foot tall super soldier couldn't possibly fit in there without being a twig.
That'd be great. If they insist it comes back in it's current form, it needs to be promoted to a Gold skull that multiplies score.
The suit enhances their movements so that it feels like a second skin to them. But they still weigh a ton. The only analogy I can come up with was when I first started wearing steel toe boots for marksmanship in high school, we had to do laps for every bullet outside of the bullseye. At first, it felt like I was running around with concrete blocks attached to my feet. A few months into it they just felt like I was running around with my normal shoes on, but if I were to kick a door/wall they'd do a lot more damage. So they're trying to say that while Chief may be fictionally relatively nimble, he's still interacts with things he runs into / touches like he's freaking heavy.
I've been wanting a customizable HUD since Halo 3.
I rarely if ever actually look up at health when playing aside to check if I should grab a med pack.
HigherLevel
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My biggest issue with inertia is when someone runs into you and you slide across the map. So annoying.
Reagan's BR
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Codpiece is back!
Now they need to make it wrap around and eliminate that weird rear plate.
Also shoulder pads should cover the shoulders...
Garrett 2U
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It sounds like that describes gameplay similar to Rainbow Six Vegas..
Where the armor you equip makes you more protected, but your also much slower and can't strafe as well.
I think that could add some interesting mechanics for the Halo universe.
I was oscillating back and forth from it being the philosophy behind the key art (which didn't make any sense because you can tell what the camera's angle is) and the cutscene direction (which doesn't make any sense unless the Chief is just in a white room the entire game with zero perspective on any of the shots). I guess we'll find out? I'm complaining when I shouldn't be, because we aren't entitled to any information at all, but the buzzwords being thrown around with reckless abandon in that MC section ("focusing on the storytelling aspects of art from the design standpoint" err, what) just reminded me that less is sometimes more.
Grateful for the information, as always.
VivaciousJazzy
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Trying to find people that I can trust to share a room with for MLG Columbus kind of sucks. All my locals are sharing a room and dont want to stuff any more people in there.
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As interesting as it sounds, it wouldn't work. People hated loadouts mostly for the reason it started people off differently. Imagine allowing people to change themselves to such depth it affects how much damage they can take.
All the same, it's interesting to think about.
OdysseusVA
Banned
*raises hand*
I've gone back and forth in the playlists and prefer bloom :/ It could also be because I suck
You brave soul.
Hydranockz
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I really hope Halo 4 let's us make our own Chief. Reach has done a really good job of tying how the player looks to every part of the game. Players can be identified by the colour of the armor and the armor itself so there is a real sense of identity there.
Will Master Chief's transition from 3 see the nanobots refitting the Chief as the player wishes? Will we be able to pump more protection to private parts? Will we be able to adjust HUD colours or opacity?
What if... they use nanobots as an excuse to 'let Chief upgrade as is necessary'? Is this going to be the game where I can adjust the amount of information I get on screen? Maybe just have different visualisations for the same info? Who knows, maybe one slider will turn the music down this time
Will Master Chief's transition from 3 see the nanobots refitting the Chief as the player wishes? Will we be able to pump more protection to private parts? Will we be able to adjust HUD colours or opacity?
What if... they use nanobots as an excuse to 'let Chief upgrade as is necessary'? Is this going to be the game where I can adjust the amount of information I get on screen? Maybe just have different visualisations for the same info? Who knows, maybe one slider will turn the music down this time
Reagan's BR
Banned
Saw this over at r/Halo and thought I'd share
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF--VL5d-eA
Also, just got the Anniv. Map Pack. Good? Bad? Anyway, would like to play with a few Gaffers GT - OdysseusVA. My k/d is 1.59. That's good enough to roll with you guys, right? RIGHT?!
Well edited. Honestly that map pack has the best maps in the game. Lately I haven't had time to play much but you can check here for HaloGAF gamertags and submit your own: http://halogaf.com/gamertags/
Oh, I'm a bloom supporter as well. I've defended it hard in here but there's no way I think it's coming back.
HigherLevel
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I really hope Halo 4 let's us make our own Chief. Reach has done a really good job of tying how the player looks to every part of the game. Players can be identified by the colour of the armor and the armor itself so there is a real sense of identity there.
Will Master Chief's transition from 3 see the nanobots refitting the Chief as the player wishes? Will we be able to pump more protection to private parts? Will we be able to adjust HUD colours or opacity?
What if... they use nanobots as an excuse to 'let Chief upgrade as is necessary'? Is this going to be the game where I can adjust the amount of information I get on screen? Maybe just have different visualisations for the same info? Who knows, maybe one slider will turn the music down this time
Leave the customization to MP only. You lose some of who the character is by making his armor customizable.
Yeah, Chief's armor keeps looking better to me every time I see it. It's interestign to hear the artistic reasons for changing the look from Halo 3, but I hope there's a decent in-universe explanation as well, at least one that's better than "Nanobots did it."
And I'm calling it right now, Halo 4 will have a Metroid Prime style hud that actually appears as the inside of a helmet and reacts to the environment. I wouldn't be too surprised if we even saw a reflection of John's eyes.
And I'm calling it right now, Halo 4 will have a Metroid Prime style hud that actually appears as the inside of a helmet and reacts to the environment. I wouldn't be too surprised if we even saw a reflection of John's eyes.
Hydranockz
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