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[Fuchsdh]

No Guests and No Split Screen are mentioned separately so I assume this will be the first Halo playlist at Max Local Players: 1 (that's not Score Attack)

Unfortunate, but somewhat necessary, especially if they start putting Forge maps into rotation.

I'm really hopeful they learn their lessons with Reach and 4 and either make it max 2 per box, or just don't make a game that can't handle full splitscreen over the internet.

 

[Blueblur1]

Guys, Bravo posted the competive playlist settings:

CLickidiclick

probably old.

No instant respawn.
No JiP
no guests.


FUCK YES

Excellent!

 

[Karl2177]

I agree with everything but the forced starting weapons. What if 343's pre-set loadouts are BR and DMR? We'll be able to choose, I'd rather want that than be forced. Pre-set loadouts can be great if implemented correctly and this may be 343's chance to try that out.

I'd place money on BR starts with DMR pickups.

 

[kittens]

GLASSMAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNN

This made me laugh HARD

 

[heckfu]

Are we getting Squad Slayer back?

 

[Reagan's BR]

Hopefully they will fix the spawns on Haven to be on the symmetrical sides.

Are we getting Squad Slayer back?

Yeah. It will be removed in a few weeks.

 

[Alchemical]

Guys, Bravo posted the competive playlist settings:

CLickidiclick

probably old.

No instant respawn.
No JiP
no guests.


FUCK YES

Holy shit. Looks like I might have to buy this game after all.

 

[TheOhrenberger]

Hopefully they will fix the spawns on Haven to be on the symmetrical sides.

Never understood why this wasn't the case from day 1.

 

[kittens]

The new competitive list plus the February map pack has the potential (key word) to make Halo 4 much, much better.

 

[TheOhrenberger]

The new competitive list plus the February map pack has the potential (key word) to make Halo 4 much, much better.

February could really be a good month for Halo.

 

[Reagan's BR]

The new competitive list plus the February map pack has the potential (key word) to make Halo 4 much, much better.

Yeah. If they make the necessary changes to make this game more competitive (better) then the maps will be the biggest thing holding the game back. Hopefully the next pack will bring some small symmetrical maps.

 

[Nebula]

February could really be a good month for Halo.

Nice to see people looking ahead. Let's hope this all goes well or I see this thread, and the population of Halo 4, tanking drastically.

Okay maybe not the thread.

 

[Mayyhem]

is team doubles up or is that in feb

 

[heckfu]

Nice to see people looking ahead. Let's hope this all goes well or I see this thread, and the population of Halo 4, tanking drastically.

Okay maybe not the thread.

There's only so low we can go.

 

[YourExWife]

There's only so low we can go.

 

[Tashi]

is team doubles up or is that in feb

Monday after next.

 

[MaximumFlipFlop]

Man I really love some of the sounds in this game. The Didact's scanner during Composer, or the reverb after Promethean Vision has been activated. Good stuff.

Oh yeah, dueling it out with the pair of Hunters using thruster pack, what a fun little battle.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

Urge to play rising......

 

[DeadNames]

If DMR is ordnance and not loadouts, I will be so happy.

I hope the loadouts are BR, Carbine, and LR only.

And no AAs.

 

[Fuchsdh]

If DMR is ordnance and not loadouts, I will be so happy.

I hope the loadouts are BR, Carbine, and LR only.

And no AAs.

I think you could argue Thruster and Holo would integrate well in a competitive environment. Regen Field's pretty balanced too but considering they don't want people staying still or sitting on it in a hill, etc., I can see why you wouldn't have it.

 

[Blueblur1]

If its decent, we're gonna have to play the shit out of that playlist to make sure it isn't removed.

 

[DeadNames]

I think you could argue Thruster and Holo would integrate well in a competitive environment. Regen Field's pretty balanced too but considering they don't want people staying still or sitting on it in a hill, etc., I can see why you wouldn't have it.

Thruster could make for some sweet fast paced gameplay.

Actually, that's a good idea. Classic Halo + Thrusters. Who wants to test this out?

If its decent, we're gonna have to play the shit out of that playlist to make sure it isn't removed.

And make the changes global.

 

[Nebula]

Man I really love some of the sounds in this game. The Didact's scanner during Composer, or the reverb after Promethean Vision has been activated. Good stuff.

Oh yeah, and dueling it out with the pair of Hunters using thruster pack, what a fun little battle.

I was doing Episode 5 earlier as I hadn't bothered with it due to the bad feedback it got, but I decided to do it anyway to make some sense of Episode 6. Me and a friend got bored and decided to try and do the missions in certain ways. We meleed through 3 and 4 and goosed on 5 which was awesome. Nothing like no scoping an Elite in the head from considerable distance.

On 3 or 4 you get some Hunters which we decided to punch to death and it was fantastic watching it spin in circles and swing wildly trying to land a hit, which it did a few times. Shame they removed the glitch where you could stand on a Hunters head and make it dance.

It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be going in, but that may have been because I went in with the intention of messing around and not doing it 'normally'. May have to try this more often in Spartan Ops.

 

[Fracas]

Urge to play rising......

Changes aren't there yet.

Although the forge playlist is pretty good. Might be because Truskill doesn't really work anymore and we get matched with scrubs though.

 

[Fuchsdh]

Changes aren't there yet.

Although the forge playlist is pretty good. Might be because Truskill doesn't really work anymore and we get matched with scrubs though.

Only map I'm really just not digging is Garrote. It might work fine on Doubles, but it's a chore with 4v4.

King on Simplex(?) was really fun, they did a fairly good job of making you not a sitting duck while in the center hill, yet still vulnerable.

 

[kittens]

If its decent, we're gonna have to play the shit out of that playlist to make sure it isn't removed.

You have my [place weapon and/or innuendo here].

Urge to play rising......

You should play again! It's still flawed in glaring and horrible ways, but it's also kind of fun!

 

[heckfu]

You have my penis.

Well that's bizarre.

 

[EagleBurnn]

DMR as weapon spawn is a damn great idea, works beautifully in AGL.

 

[BlueScrote]

Introducing static weapon spawns, forced starting weapons, and eliminating sprint would be easy changes that could be introduced into this playlist. They are taking a step in the right direction but they could take a bigger step.

Eliminating a core aspect of the movement in the game is not going to happen. Just because modders did it doesn't mean there is a snowball's chance in hell of it happening officially.

Do agree on forcing starting weapons to BR though (and static spawn positions). DMR fucks with sightlines way too much.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

Changes aren't there yet.

Although the forge playlist is pretty good. Might be because Truskill doesn't really work anymore and we get matched with scrubs though.

If Playlist Bravo has traditional weapon spawns, no JiP, no instant respawn, and non-customizable loadouts that means it's pretty damn close to the Halo game I want to play.

You should play again! It's still flawed in glaring and horrible ways, but it's also kind of fun!

Gotta drive cross-country next week, but will be back on Feb. 4th; I'd be up for some hijinx then. I expect Monster Balls ft. KittensDX to reunite sometime around then.

EDIT: Assuming I'm not eaten by wolves in the middle of Nebraska or something.

 

[SHIFTYkiwi]

King on Simplex(?) was really fun, they did a fairly good job of making you not a sitting duck while in the center hill, yet still vulnerable.

Is koth settings in the forge playlist still based on points instead of time for when the hill moves?

 

[Doogington]

Eliminating is a strong word, but I do think it should be disabled. If not for the competitive list, then hopefully in a classic one. Or really, just add the option into the menu as it's already in the game.

 

[rakka]

no splitscreen even with 2 gold accounts? that sucks.

 

[EagleBurnn]

no splitscreen even with 2 gold accounts? that sucks.

Yeah, I don't see the benefit in that? These aren't final so 343 may change it

 

[IHaveIce]

Yeah, I don't see the benefit in that? These aren't final so 343 may change it

It is because then we can have some nice forge maps.

Did you guys play Halo 4 in splitscreen? It is horrible

 

[Orochinagis]

Guess what, FOTUS avatar armor, Cryotube avatar prop o and the Crawler avatar prop too on the marketplace.

 

[DeadNames]

It is because then we can have some nice forge maps.

Did you guys play Halo 4 in splitscreen? It is horrible

I can vouch. Tried playing forge with my friend the other day.

It was horrid.

 

[EagleBurnn]

Guess what, FOTUS avatar armor, Cryotube avatar prop o and the Crawler avatar prop too on the marketplace.

Wasn't that LE content? They better not put the in-game FOTUS armor in the marketplace or a giant wave of shitstorm will occur on Waypoint.

 

[Orochinagis]

Wasn't that LE content? They better not put the in-game FOTUS armor in the marketplace or a giant wave of shitstorm will occur on Waypoint.

LE and Console avatar content. Only the In game fotus armor remains exclusive now

 

[rakka]

It is because then we can have some nice forge maps.

Did you guys play Halo 4 in splitscreen? It is horrible

I play splitscreen match making all the time and while most maps do run like absolute dog shit, complex and big team maps being the worst offenders, it's part of why I have always enjoyed halo. some maps have no real issues though, adrift and haven for example. I suppose the new forge maps were pretty bad in term of splitscreen performance though.

sucks that splitscreen is so bad in halo 4. outside of framerate issues, there are also things like reticules being fucking huge (are they even scaled down?) so accuracy goes out the window, the tiny all caps killfeed and scoreboard is even harder to read, motion trackers elevation indicators are a bitch to make out even on a 50" TV, and so on

I suppose i can see why removing splitscreen in this new playlist is the only answer. it's a shame.

bungie seemed to actually care about making the splitscreen experience just as good as fullscreen. part of the reason why I'll miss them making halo games.

 

[Madness]

Bravos settings are great news. I just hope they come sooner rather than later. There is a shit ton of new AAA games coming out and you have to assume the population count of halo 4 will drop further.

Even if Gears of war:judgment is a further bastardization of the series, I'm still going to put my all into trying to enjoy the multiplayer. Then you have bioshock:infinite, dead space 3, crysis 3 etc. Beating those will eat up almost all my free time.

If anything, I hope 343 learns better time management in the future. When you say you'll release something, stick to it or let people know EXACTLY why there is a delay. And get some better communication with the community. We shouldn't need to hear about cut features from people playing leaked copies or not knowing what's in the limited edition like a few days from launch.

Also, I'd have thought the first thing to go in the new competitive playlists would be personal ordnance. Instant respawns sucks, but giving people free binary rifles or rocket launchers sucks more.

I wouldn't quit out of frustration every single day and go play flood or oddball if each map of Infinity slayer wasn't 2-3 people with snipers, few people with splasers, some with incineration cannons etc. Add in the ammo perks or no flinch and something like a sniper or fuel rod cannon becomes a game changer. Seriously why someone deserves a 15 shot fuel rod cannon on haven because they got a few assists is mind-boggling.

 

[User 73706]

Hmm. I wonder if it'd be possible to do something like:

BR / Pistol / 1 Frag, 1 Pulse / Thruster / Dexterity / Resupply
Carbine / Pistol / 1 Frag, 1 Pulse / Thruster / Dexterity / Resupply
Light Rifle / Pistol / 1 Frag, 1 Pulse / Thruster / Dexterity / Resupply
BR / Pistol / 1 Frag, 1 Pulse / Hologram / Dexterity / Resupply
Carbine / Pistol / 1 Frag, 1 Pulse / Hologram / Dexterity / Resupply
Light Rifle / Pistol / 1 Frag, 1 Pulse / Hologram / Dexterity / Resupply

This loadout could be deleted if you couldn't use 7 loadouts in pre-baked map ones for whatever reason.

 

[willow ve]

I think my favorite part about the competitive settings are Friendly Fire On

I miss when firing a weapon or throwing a grenade had consequences

Also excited to see it launch Mid-February and have slayer and objective in one list. Now about that voting...

And from Frankie over on the Waypoint thread

Friendly Fire and accidental betrayals have been part of the Halo competitive experience since the days when we had to take our CRT TV sets to other people's basements and wreck their circuit breakers. Shoot straight son.

 

[EagleBurnn]

And from Frankie over on the Waypoint thread

 

[zap]

More Frankles:

Personally I think join in progress would occasionally be helpful when teammates have to bail. Or are jerks, but ultimately this combined with CSR means that people will, on balance, prefer the predictability that no JIP will bring. The CSR experience, which will work on basically any phone, will work basically exactly the same as Halo 3, but you simply glance at your phone or other smartglass device to see your current skill rank. This may be marginally less simple than seeing it in game, but the fact that it will make CSR less appealing to scumbags and de-rankers is well worth the 'inconvenience' of looking at your phone.

This is the beginning of some other competitive efforts we will be spending time on this year.

:/

 

[TCKaos]

Guys, Bravo posted the competive playlist settings:

CLickidiclick

probably old.

No instant respawn.
No JiP
no guests.


FUCK YES

"Things look different without Microsoft's lies clouding my vision. I would like to see our own game - to know that it is safe."

"Fear not, for we have made it so."

 

[789shadow]

Black Ops II is literally the only game I've ever played with absolutely no redeeming qualities. Halo will be too if it continues to take even the smallest amount of mechanics and concepts from it.

 

[User 73706]

 

[zap]

P.S. Look for the Suddoth twins and Frankie in that thread. :lol

 

[GrizzNKev]

More Frankles:



:/

I'm still not buying that. Thankfully the monitor I game on is just my second computer monitor, so it's a non issue. But the app is more or less non-functional on my phone so I feel for the people who don't have any convenient ways of checking.

Hoping they'll come around eventually, still excited about this news. Best news since the game launched, really.