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kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Kuroyume said:
Why not just remove both the DMR and BR from H5 and make it AR or SMG starts since that's what it sounds like some of you babies want.
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Halo 5 Kinect exclusive. Point your hand at the screen to spray your AR. Touch your hands palm open in front of your chest in a prayer stance to reload.
 
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blamite

Member
I had a game earlier in BTB where the other team was down to 2 players (we had 6), and the game went on for about 9 minutes before time ran out without adding a single person to either team. A few games later I joined a FFA regicide game that ended within two minutes.
 
Ozzy Onya A2Z

Ozzy Onya A2Z

Member
mastrbiggy said:
Justify one questionible weapon role because of a random/broken system. Everything balances out. Genius.
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It's one example. The same applies without JiP to counter your remark, you're in a lesser party of teamed up players and dying more often because the other team is dominating or leading. You're one of the best players on your team but without the DMR counter to camo snipers at range or for ranged power weapons enemies get from personal ordnances or against their surviving DMR users you're at a disadvantage from spawn consistently (under Karl's scenario). Especially when you factor Halo 4's larger maps.

I also said it could work for classic where those ranged power weapons would be more scarce. Are you just looking to justify your preferred style of play regardless of details actually posted even when the classic comments agree with what you say? Seriously.
 
T

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
You guys...

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R

Reagan's BR

Banned
I think BTB and Ranked Slayer (should it ever exist again) should be BR starts. Social Slayer should be AR or SMG starts. The DMR should be a power weapon on the map. The DMR should function exactly like the H1 pistol.
 
K

Karl2177

Member
Ozzy Onya A2Z said:
Yuck, so the best ranged weapon you'd have in your scenario would be the BR or lightrifle. Where as the other team could be sporting a laser, sniper, binary or picked up DMR when you spawn with just a BR. Their team could be leading when you JiP in and get handed a BR to tackle the enemy team having say 3 of those ranged power weapons.

Not feeling it mate, Infinity needs counters to all the power weapons and the BR/DMR should have a tangible range difference IMO. Classic, maybe DMR as pickup would work where the other ranged power weapons are more scarce.
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We've had this conversation before and your argument basically came down to "but I like the DMR more than the BR". Essentially with the DMR in loadouts: BTB is a mess and there's a major weapon dilution between the BR/DMR. When you actually look at how each weapon functions, the DMR is a guaranteed 25% shield damage shot every time it hits. It doesn't matter if you are 1 meter away or 250 meters away. The BR isn't a guarantee after a certain range, but it at least descopes or flinches them.
 
O

Overdoziz

Banned
Reagan's BR said:
I think BTB and Ranked Slayer (should it ever exist again) should be BR starts. Social Slayer should be AR or SMG starts. The DMR should be a power weapon on the map. The DMR should function exactly like the H1 pistol.
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AR and SMG starts is the dumbest shit to ever exist.
 
S

Smeghead

Member
A DMR any range is better than the BR thanks to the shortened kill time.

Such a boring, shit weapon with absolutely zero nuances regarding how it handles. At least the BR is interesting and fun to use.
 
E

EagleBurnn

Banned
Alright guys, hear me out. With MLG dropping Halo 4, what if 343 went the LoL route and made their own tournament? They work with the pros to build gametypes and have some entry thing for competitive maps. There would also be a playlists for qualifying and they attach their new ranking system to it. How would everyone feel about that?

Assuming 343 tries to fix Halo 4 outside of rotational playlists, it would be better than nothing...
 
C

Computron

Member
EagleBurnn said:
Alright guys, hear me out. With MLG dropping Halo 4, what if 343 went the LoL route and made their own tournament? They work with the pros to build gametypes and have some entry thing for competitive maps. There would also be a playlists for qualifying and they attach their new ranking system to it. How would everyone feel about that?

Assuming 343 tries to fix Halo 4 outside of rotational playlists, it would be better than nothing...
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So, you mean like shield doors, equipment and dual spiker starts?
 
Ozzy Onya A2Z

Ozzy Onya A2Z

Member
Karl2177 said:
We've had this conversation before and your argument basically came down to "but I like the DMR more than the BR". Essentially with the DMR in loadouts: BTB is a mess and there's a major weapon dilution between the BR/DMR. When you actually look at how each weapon functions, the DMR is a guaranteed 25% shield damage shot every time it hits. It doesn't matter if you are 1 meter away or 250 meters away. The BR isn't a guarantee after a certain range, but it at least descopes or flinches them.
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1. That's not what my points state at all. I actually took the time to think about how your scenario would play out.

2. Your points above just reinforce exactly what I am saying.

3. For classic be my guest and make everything BR and trimmed down, same as always. I'll play it occasionally too. However I like Infinity. DMR on spawn/loadout and a new experience are my preference with this current Halo game.
 
K

kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Smeghead said:
A DMR any range is better than the BR thanks to the shortened kill time.

Such a boring, shit weapon with absolutely zero nuances regarding how it handles. At least the BR is interesting and fun to use.
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I feel like the DMR is more fun than any of the BR iterations have ever been. But that's probably cause it's overpowered, lol.
 
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Karl2177

Member
Ozzy Onya A2Z said:
1. That's not what my points state at all. I actually took the time to think about how your scenario would play out.

2. Your points above just reinforce exactly what I am saying.

3. For classic be my guest and make everything BR and trimmed down, same as always. I'll play it occasionally too. However I like Infinity. DMR on spawn/loadout and a new experience are my preference with this current Halo game.
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Do you want SAWs in loadouts too?
 
Computer

Computer

Member
The shield recharge rate is too fucking slow especially when people insta spawn 343 what the fuck are you thinking?
IN b 4 there is a perk for that.
 
U

User 73706

Banned
Wait a sec. Karl, do you want the DMR to be 6-shot or 4-shot? Your old sandbox post said 6 but one you made a bit ago is confusing me with the wording.
 
K

Karl2177

Member
Ozzy Onya A2Z said:
Left field, no.
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In practice, the SAW is to the AR as the DMR is to the BR.

Wahrer Machine said:
Wait a sec. Karl, do you want the DMR to be 6-shot or 4-shot? Your old sandbox post said 6 but one you made a bit ago is confusing me with the wording.
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I've changed it to 4. The RoF needs to be slightly slower and shots deal a bit more damage. I set up a version of Ragnarock that had one side with DMR pickups and a player trait zone with 125% damage. The DMR wasn't completely overpowering and it also allows MLG to have a utility weapon that gets fairly quick and consistent kills. It also means that competitive BTB isn't a clusterfuck of DMRs.
 
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Blueblur1

Member
GhaleonEB said:
Well 343 loved it so much in Reach they brought it back in Halo 4, one of only two weapons from that game they carried forward. I had hoped they would have recognized that it was a bad thing from that game alone. But having made that mistake alongside others (camo as AA rather than pick up, the jetpack), I feel like the game they released really is pretty much the game they wanted to release, and the experience players are having is largely by design. Until they say otherwise, of course.
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That doesn't exactly make one optimistic about Halo 5. :/
 
M

Madness

Member
DMR is basically one of the main reasons Reach was frustrating. You basically had a mini sniper on your hands for the whole match.

And now it's one of the problems Halo 4 has... Play complex, ragnarok, exile, meltdown, longbow, vortex etc. It's basically people turtling in a corner with camo or hiding somewhere obscure and just pinging people from a distance.

After a minute or two, just try and traverse past the pelican on ragnarok/Valhalla, you'll get peppered with dmr shots from a distance. And anyone who even hits you once will get an assist if you die. And another few assists later, they'll be able to get binary rifles and snipers and rockets etc.
 
D

DeadNames

Banned
Madness said:
DMR is basically one of the main reasons Reach was frustrating. You basically had a mini sniper on your hands for the whole match.

And now it's one of the problems Halo 4 has... Play complex, ragnarok, exile, meltdown, longbow, vortex etc. It's basically people turtling in a corner with camo or hiding somewhere obscure and just pinging people from a distance.

After a minute or two, just try and traverse past the pelican on ragnarok/Valhalla, you'll get peppered with dmr shots from a distance. And anyone who even hits you once will get an assist if you die. And another few assists later, they'll be able to get binary rifles and snipers and rockets etc.
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But the Reach DMR had bloom. Bloom limited the quick ass kill times.

I can't believe I'm saying this... But please put bloom on the DMR 343. A lot more, at least.
 
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the natron

Neo Member
Released said:
So that playlist is still populated by total baddies? Kinda makes me wanna play it again lol.
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yes it is. if you ever wanna relax and dominate some fools i recommend that playlist.

Earlier I strongly considered trading in Halo 4. The game has just really gotten under my skin with all the camo boltshoters, JIP, personal ordnance, instant respawn, hour long quit bans, etc. The title update may fix a few things but there will probably still be several major issues left unresolved like JIP or PV. Hell I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they didn't even touch the Boltshot and just left it the same. Because if they did change the game around a lot, that would basically be like them admitting that they botched Halo 4 and there's just no way 343i would ever do something like that. At this point I feel like I'm just trying to force myself to like the game and its not working. At all. I mean this is the first time I've ever considered trading in a Halo game and I haven't sold a single one. Even Reach with all its bs. My friend though convinced me to humor him and at least keep it till the TU or else he wouldn't really have anyone else to play it with.

Its a dark time for Halo
 
Computer

Computer

Member
the natron said:
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they didn't even touch the Boltshot and just left it the same. Because if they did change the game around a lot, that would basically be like them admitting that they botched Halo 4 and there's just no way 343i would ever do something like that.
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Swallow the pride save Halo.
 
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