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Halo |OT19| 793 Posts, And None Worth Reading
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Not to that degree, but my TV has a god inch or so of overscan. Not a big deal because pretty much everything keeps that safe area clear, but it'd be nice to have that extra space used.
Do the PS4 or Xbone allow you to adjust overscan at all? I really love that the Wii U has a system-wide setting for adjusting for overscan, I just had to zoom out one level and I get 100% of the image for every game.
aHebrewMenagerie
Member
I almost tag quoted you there. But I want to add a bit of insight.
The Metro UI is PERFECT for touch devices. It's simple, it's intuitive, it works.
But for software with no touch peripherals, it feels clunky and awkward. It feels unnecessary for a bunch of big icons to take up the screen, especially when it worked perfectly fine in the past with things like Reach. It felt functional, and simple. Just as UIs should.
YES!
Syphon Filter
Member
Metro works with a pad fine actually. Its for W8 on a pc that it doesn't work.
You could potentially have something like this to show who was in a party with who. It doesnt work on a quick glance like Halo 3 but it's not dependant on everyone been on the same team either.
Why would you want such a busy screen?
Clean and simple with an easy interaction is best.
It's possible to set it up so the same map doesn't appear after a veto. I'm assuming MLG requested that the same map be available after vetoes.
This was actually the reason Collonade showed up way too much when Maption Sack first ran in Halo 3. When people would veto, Halo 3 went "oh, people don't like Sandbox... let me find a different map.. well, the other different map is Foundry", which happened to pretty much just be Collonade. The fix to that was to turn off the map ban behavior.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
The main reason I included something like a player card was to speed up the time it took to check player stats. I've frequently seen people on streams or in real life try to check the KD of everyone in a game during the pregame menu and either miss voting or not finish checking before the game starts. This way you can scroll down and not have to go between screens. It also makes use of largely unused sections of the screen.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
Omg, Reach's frame drops are horrible... omg.
I know ugh. In that last game betrayal's everywhere, 4 deaths from the same teammate and no boot sucks.
Steelyuhas
Member
Yeah it's about presenting the "right" and essential information in a way that's easy to see and read. Trying to present all the info possible on one screen without any changes is difficult at best, and probably just a flat out bad idea most of the time.
Halo example: Now it would be nice to be able to display specific rules of a game with a button press, I don't think always having detailed rules of the gametype on the screen is a very good idea. It's just a lot of text in a small area.
And on the flip side, having the player cards in Reach only show when you move over the right side of the screen is a good example of allowing you to see that info if you want, but not placing it on the screen at all times.
Barrow Roll
Member
So that's 2 fan made Halo games coming out using CryEngine 3?
http://venerance.net/
A lot of people probably have their TVs set to 16:9 instead of "Just Scan" still.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Venerance seems dead dead.
90% (percentage from my ass) of mods/total conversions/games do that shit. Product some okay looking work. Never get public attention. Never get anywhere close to being anything playable. Die.
Look at all the stargate mods for HL2 for example.
The problem is people who have the ability to craft great stories and gameplay ideas never have the skills required to follow through and people with the skills are most likely employed at least 9-5 doing that shit so they don't want to do it during free time.
That territories game was just all over the place, not to be mean or anything but I backpacked you most of the time
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Anniversary abused the fact that your game only needs to render correctly in the safe title area:
dat clipping
User 73706
Banned
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
You did, you actually did. I forgot how to play Territories, I didn't know what to do xDThat territories game was just all over the place, not to be mean or anything but I backpacked you most of the time
Well if the player card is just a button press away and you can scroll though them easily, that problem would be solved.
I agree.
Hope we get the gametype rules/explanation back but as you said, being able to show or hide it.
User 73706
Banned
I'm still not sure I understand why I'm in the background of your avatar.
Well that's justification for game type information right there. It's literally stand in the maker don't die and capture them. And for the defender's just shoot the those who forget that they have no cover which is a lot of them.
Yeah it's a shame. In this case I think it's more a case of being infatuated with a final product and changing their mind. At some point you have to stick with a set of achievable goals.
If CEA's shotgun clipping is safe area abuse, it's pretty crappy safe area abuse; if I switch my TV from Just Scan to 16:9, some of the clipping is still visible.Anniversary abused the fact that your game only needs to render correctly in the safe title area:
dat clipping
Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
Reach has some great modded gametypes.
There's a Reach version of Gun Game: http://www.xboxchaos.com/topic/3794-weapon-wielders/
Another gametype lets you do tons of stuff, like spawning AA Shade Turrets, Chaingun Falcons, attach objects, add trait zones, change object and player scale, etc: http://www.xboxchaos.com/topic/3766-bonus-slayer-gametypes/ Newer version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgpQbzTwXEA Newest version can spawn a Pelican on Spire and Target Designator on Anchor 9.
Reach needs more modded gametypes. It feels like it has so much more content than Halo 4. Plus it has the Falcon.
There's a Reach version of Gun Game: http://www.xboxchaos.com/topic/3794-weapon-wielders/
Another gametype lets you do tons of stuff, like spawning AA Shade Turrets, Chaingun Falcons, attach objects, add trait zones, change object and player scale, etc: http://www.xboxchaos.com/topic/3766-bonus-slayer-gametypes/ Newer version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgpQbzTwXEA Newest version can spawn a Pelican on Spire and Target Designator on Anchor 9.
Reach needs more modded gametypes. It feels like it has so much more content than Halo 4. Plus it has the Falcon.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
Yeah now I know. I'm such a bad player at Reach... omg.
User 73706
Banned
I just noticed I showed up in Stalker's UI demo. The fuck is "Wareh," anyway? You're not the only one that's used it. Is that some kind of European thing I'm missing, or is it just a corruption of wahurrurur that caught on?
Also, just a warning: my UI mockups are shooting for efficiency, accessibility, overall appearance and indication of Microsoft first-party affiliation, not necessarily "classic Halo." You'll take your Segoe UI and like it, dammit.
Also, just a warning: my UI mockups are shooting for efficiency, accessibility, overall appearance and indication of Microsoft first-party affiliation, not necessarily "classic Halo." You'll take your Segoe UI and like it, dammit.
You always have paint?!
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
I'm not dismissing anything, I'm asking what people find issue with in the flat Metro design. I personally think it looks beautiful, so I'm curious.
Thank you Stalker, Noble, Blam, etc for actually responding to me in a serious fashion.
I use Metro everyday on my Windows Phone and I absolutely love the design of it, which most of you guys seem to think Metro works great on Mobile, so that's not an issue.
Using Metro on both my Xbox One and Laptop/Desktop daily, I still don't see an issue with them. Once you "organize" your tiles on your PC, launching programs is a simple (Windows Key + Move mouse and click) or even (Windows Key + first letter+ enter). This may or may not be less productive than the start menu/icons, but it still works really well and I don't mind using it.
I think it looks gross and it reminds me of Windows 8 which is doubly gross. Reach had the perfect UI, all 343 has to do is copy it.
I mainly mean that I don't have the creative juices flowing like some of these guys do. I have ideas in my head, but I can't translate it well to something visual for others to see. Well, and because I'm kind of lazy.
At least I you didn't betray me
, I killed the guy who was trying to take the sniper I had and wasted a bullet .It is far less productive and just a hassle to use in my opinion, if your trying to do something.
I mean we laid out our explanations about how it was often cumbersome in menus and redundant for information. Then I even went in how I didn't think it would work for halo. After that we discussed better alternatives for UI in the next halo game and people posted examples. Shortly after that you asked what was wrong with it.
Hope that helps you navigate the past couple pages.
Hope that helps you navigate the past couple pages.
Steelyuhas
Member
A set of design principles is just that. It's actual application can come in various forms and levels if effectiveness.
Halo 4 doesn't adhere to a couple of the key principles of Metro UI, which is why I'd hesitate to call it that at all. Either way, it does a poor job of presenting the important information on screen, which is a major no no.
Quality UX joke you nerd!
Seriously, that's pretty good.
Computer
Member
Its beautifully simple. Its very peaceful to look at. I love it.
The last few pages have been way too serious and on-topic, so I gizoogled them. There have truly been some gems the last 2 pages, I especially love Blueblur's newest post:
I find the venerance for Reach's UI odd considering it's mostly wasted space and canted, harder to read text. It's style over substance.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
That game was so shitty... ugh. I was taking a walk while everyone was killing each other.At least I you didn't betray me
It is far less productive and just a hassle to use in my opinion, if your trying to do something.
I love simple. But yeah, it's really really peaceful to look at.
This is amazing.
User 73706
Banned
Gang Wahrer said:
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I saw this on FB, I presume it to be fake since no source was posted at all. I searched on GAF and on Google. Nothing came up
Search this thread like a page or two back, was posted. DEllis laughed so it's almost certainly a fake.
Edit: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=98525741&postcount=11011
K
kittens
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I agree. Streamline and clean it up a bit and it'd be perfect.
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