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Halo |OT2| Hyper-Athletic Speed And Mass And Weight and Power
- Thread starter GhaleonEB
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Why you dissin' Fair gameplay? You have something against vehicle stun, too?!
The Librarian
Banned
My time in the Halo 3 Team Slayer playlist recently has me reevaluating the association. "AR duels" end in one guy walking away (catching him off guard in close quarters) as much as they end in two guys killing each other in a simultaneous beatdown. Regardless, what you said about AR fights can be as easily applied to BR duels: "Whoever shoots the other guy first."
That's a good point. Besides, Halo 3 and ODST might get a boost in resolution too. Gorgeous.
I think even with your re-ordering of missions, the pace would still be kinda bumpy.
Does give me an idea, though I doubt I would have kept the story the same. They used the Sabres only once; it would have been cool to have Keyes come down to pick up The Package and then you have to escort his Pelican back to the Pillar of Autumn with shit coming from every damn direction. I didn't like how the PoA is suddenly in drydock on the surface when all of the other materials tell you they showed up to Reach after the fighting really began.
The only problem is that it takes you off Reach at the end of the game. You could get around this though by having Six return to Reach even though it means no escape, because there's still members of Noble left (I would have kept more than just Emile alive, for sure). This plays well against the intro, where Carter tells you you're part of the team and "That lone wolf stuff stays behind." In the space of a few days serving alongside Noble through Hell, you've gone from lone wolf to not leaving your team behind, even if it means dying with them. I probably would have ditched the Lone Wolf stage just for that reason, even though that was a fucked up way to end the game that I actually liked.
I'd rather they just go into space for it, frankly, or as someone on HBO suggested, rearrange so that the package is dropped off earlier.
I think the crux of my issues with the later part of the game, time issues aside and other things mentioned above, is that the whole "give Cortana to Keyes!" retcon is done to make Noble's sacrifice feel worthwhile... and yet it isn't, not really. Scratch the Cortana bit, I should have *cared* about the characters at that point to be sad they went down in a valiant but futile effort to protect Reach. If you wanted their deaths to be meaningful, have them all go down defending Castle Base and the rest of the Spartans/Halsey (a la Jun in Leviathan's excellent "Fistful of Arrows" comic.)
For a game that went the extra mile to distance itself from the events of The Fall of Reach and the Master Chief/Spartan II arc, to suddenly tie it back at the end felt cheap.
re:SMG
I know you guys are quite partial to the silenced SMG (it works in ODST mostly because you're without a powerful long range option for the majority of the game), but I was referring to the H2 SMG exclusively.
Retro, I like your sandbox ideas for the most part but I don't feel that the SMG has a role in the sandbox as pertaining to the mainline Halos. Especially since dual wielding was dropped. Now if H4 takes a novel direction to combat and spaces, I'll reevaluate my stance.
Yes, but it explains why it took them so long to glass Reach.
I know you guys are quite partial to the silenced SMG (it works in ODST mostly because you're without a powerful long range option for the majority of the game), but I was referring to the H2 SMG exclusively.
Retro, I like your sandbox ideas for the most part but I don't feel that the SMG has a role in the sandbox as pertaining to the mainline Halos. Especially since dual wielding was dropped. Now if H4 takes a novel direction to combat and spaces, I'll reevaluate my stance.
Yes, but it explains why it took them so long to glass Reach.
Kibbles
Member
I'm ready to read about this new "breadth of game modes"...
Didn't you guys say the podcast mentioned a mode that was not SP or MP? ...and not FF?
Outside of a "Spec Ops" mode, what the hell else is left? I find myself wondering... Maybe it's a slayer variant... maybe it's CTF. Maybe it's something really cool I don't even know about... are we not in the tree?!
Can't wait to see that Guardian remake...
Why do you hate the Easter Bunny?
ElRenoRaven
Member
Um yes there is mail today. I got ours. Got my little Mario figure thingy in.
i thought today is no holiday in the us?
Good Friday... some schools are out. Most work isn't.
Edit: My avatar needs a quote on it: "Tonight I dine on turtle soup!"
Deputy Moonman
Member
Easter eggs confirmed in Halo4!
Yeah, the Silenced SMG gets emphasized because it was part of a larger post I made. You can read it yourself if you like (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35520307&postcount=3935), but basically Halo 4 puts Master Chief alone on a more open world swarming with things that want to kill him and needs to keep a low profile as he cross the terrain between objectives.
Just because Dual Wielding was dropped doesn't mean everything that came along with it needs to go too. After all, you probably won't be able to carry dual pistols in Halo 4 despite being able to do it in Halo 2 and 3. I don't think you really need a 'story' reason when everyone knows it's a gameplay decision.
A short scope, deep clip and ideal range make it the perfect starting weapon, right in the sweet spot between the too-much-range BR/DMR and the ineffective-except-at-point-blank burst of the AR.
Tha Robbertster
Member
I've been thinking about something similar. I'd like it if the goal of the last mission would be to reach another saber facility to get to space to deliver the Cortana fragment to Keyes. The scenario would be ideal to show how fucked Reach is. You can show the massive Covenant fleet tearing of the UNSC ships, the planet getting glassed and evacuation ships fleeing the planet.
You could also still have a kinda lone wolf-ish ending: Noble Six boards a super carrier with his saber and brings in a nuke. You keep figting in the hanger of the ship until you die. At that moment the nuke explodes and a few more evacuation ships can escape Reach.
Poker Face
Member
nothing came in the mail for me :/
HA, it wouldn't come that soon. Probably mid to end of next week.
Oh, guess my mail's running late lol. Weird, practically everything's closed here. Then again, I live in a small rural town in Kentucky, so that explains a little.
Poker Face
Member
Gabotron ES
Member
It's also holiday on Spain.
Edit: I strafe while shooting my AR, it makes me feel so MLG!
Edit: I strafe while shooting my AR, it makes me feel so MLG!
ElzarTheBam
Member
It's always a holiday in Spain baby!
Tha Robbertster
Member
Halo 4 news>everything else, even the Easter Bunny
ElzarTheBam
Member
That explains the high unemployment rate
LMAO.
Yeah, that could be awesome; get aboard a fight an entire Covenant Capitol ship single-handedly. Quite badass.
I honestly think the solution is to throw the functionality of them both (AR, silenced SMG) together. The sandbox needs to be cut down, in my opinion, and if you want to have certain gameplay scenarios require unique weapon specs, then simply have modifications available to the player instead of two seperate weapons. Similar to the flashlight in H1, functionality can be equipped at the press of a button (D-pad).
ElRenoRaven
Member
Could be. That or you're having a good day because you got no mail which means another day no bills.
Gabotron ES
Member
That explains the high unemployment rate
Nah but seriously, it has been an entire holiday week in here because of some religious festivities most people I know don't give a fuck, WE'RE DOOMED!
Rand0m TAG
Member
Any way to buy only one digital copy?
The Real Napsta
Member
ElRenoRaven
Member
Just got it in, no Game Informer
Just a new phonebook. Damn.
Well could be worse. It could be bills. lol
Tha Robbertster
Member
Haha, guessing you got bills in today?
I don't see how that changes anything; you're still starting off with a pray-and-spray weapon with mediocre range. The S-SMG at least has a little range play to it.
Adding in modifications is something I actually did with my sandbox concept; I kept the AR separate but made it pick-up only. To make it worth picking up, I would beef up the damage and I gave it a "Grenade Launcher" feature, effectively merging the AR with a Brute Shot (that runs on your Grenade ammo though).
Kibbles
Member
If my magazine arrives after the digital release, I'm just switching to digital release for the remainder of my subscription (which it appears you can do for free). Although their online mags don't look very high-res from the preview =\ If it does it instantly, I wonder if that means I could have both the physical and digital copy of the mag? :3
ElRenoRaven
Member
No No I didn't. Hence I had a good day too. I just got my little Super Mario Character Figure Collection Mario figure I ordered on Amazon. It's nice to find sellers who import stuff.
Game Informer needs to pull off one of the biggest magazine trolls in history and have the cover story just consist of everything we already know for 14 pages. With size 34 font.
Now where is my cover story leak? Sadly, I'm guessing nothing til at least tomorrow.
Not bad!
Now where is my cover story leak? Sadly, I'm guessing nothing til at least tomorrow.
Give the AR better range, moderate the damage per bullet, tighten the bloom/recoil/aim degradation initially but make it expand exponentially.
The grenade launcher is not exactly novel but a step in the right direction. I'm sure we can think of something more scifi-esque, though. Something kind of like that AA-on-weapons idea you had. Though I would rather the functionality come from pick-ups, inventory, or the suit itself instead of being an inherent nature of the weapon.
squidhands
Member
I really like that idea. I'd say keep Emile in the MAC Cannon and have him go out the same way. End the mission where you get shot down and survive the crash only to stagger in front of Covenant ground forces that begin the Lone Wolf level.
- "Mummy, someone put Lincoln Logs in me sock drawer!"
- "That's the story of Jesus!"
The Real Napsta
Member
I'll be down to party up with some people tomorrow.