I've read the summaries on GAF, and looked at a couple of pictures, but I'm also waiting to buy the issue; I'm looking forward to reading the article properly.
Halo |OT2| Hyper-Athletic Speed And Mass And Weight and Power
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I've read the summaries on GAF, and looked at a couple of pictures, but I'm also waiting to buy the issue; I'm looking forward to reading the article properly.
All the talk about Halo 4 inspired me to jump back into Halo Reach after a long hiatus playing BF3 and GoW3.
Damn I missed this game. I know there are people here that dislike where Bungie took the game in terms of feature-set and balance, but I love it.
The ONLY change I would make is to have Bungie sit down in a room and play BF3 with high-quality headphones, so they could get a sense of what real, meaty, loud weapon sounds can add to a shooter.
But yeah, I love me some Reach. I'll hold it up as the best Halo MP to date, regardless of the flack I take.
Thankfully, it seems that 343i have really beefed up the weapon sounds.
are you certain you actually feel this way?
Examine your feelings, and perhaps think back to other announcements.
This is why I love this thread. So gud.
The game we want won't come.
Only hope now is that 343i's version of Reach/COD is actually fun and balanced (unlike those games).
Sparkast! Sparkast! Sparkast!
Sidenote:
I'm excited for the new Counter Strike on xbox. Seems exactly like the no-bullshit type competitive shooter noone wants to make for console anymore.
If anything I've been skeptical of 343 the whole time. I'm a Bungie lover. With some "large" MP details releasing, I feel like I shouldn't jump the gun. I'm trying not to.
Im_So_Pringles
Member
Has anybody considered the possibility that you have to power your AA's with energy pickups around the map? Much like adrenaline in the UT games? I think I might like AA's if they do it that way...........
Captain Blood
Member
Yup I think this is pretty much the case.
ElzarTheBam
Member
An important question concerning Halo 4, how does drop in and drop out affect host migration? Nothing more annoying than multiple host changes throughout the game.
The last BTB game, we had 3 host changes, and bizarrely we had no quitters.
The last BTB game, we had 3 host changes, and bizarrely we had no quitters.
Yeah, it has been brought up more than once, there's a group of us crossing fingers for this.
Energon Cubes?
That would be fucking AMAZING.
Poker Face
Member
The Antitype
Banned
I wouldn't mind this, but I don't really see why it's necessary.
I don't need 'energy' to use the class-specific abilities in Team Fortress 2, or for the different classes in Tribes to make a significant difference.
So long as I can look at the enemy approaching and immediately know via silhouette or some other obvious indicator, exactly what his abilities are, then I can adapt my strategies immediately to counter them and play to his weaknesses.
So long as the abilities are balanced and easy to recognize, I wouldn't mind repeated use throughout a match.
The shitty thing about it is though, Valve always likes to update their games and do it for free. Both things MS will not allow. PC is the best option.
Rickenslacker
Banned
The difference with class based systems like Tribes and TF2 are that they lock you into the class's parameters. Yeah, I can double jump and run like crazy as a Scout, but when I kill a Soldier I'm not going to be able to pick up his rocket launcher and use it. 'Cause that would be bananas. I also don't have the same sort of health as a Soldier either.
That's why it's harder to balance Halo as a "class-based" FPS, because your class ends up being defined by your abilities and not the weapons you use or how much health you have to work with to compensate. That makes a huge difference.
The Real Napsta
Member
With PS3 being 2nd best.
Well... you do pick your equipment at the start of the match, right? Maybe you're kind of building your own 'class' based on what weapons/grenades/AAs/Mods you pick, and then you're limited to picking up these 'item drops'. So if you kill a dude with a BR, and the BR is considered a starting "Class" weapon, you can't just pick it up.
Have we considered the possibility that the weapon drops are not specific weapons, but weapon 'types'? For example, say an Explosive Weapon drops; if you're a "Scout"-class, when you pick up the generic "Explosive Weapon" it gives you a propipe, but if you're the "Heavy" class it gives you rockets?
Im_So_Pringles
Member
I just though a little bit more into my above idea; That would be a different direction completely to encourage map flow and domination, barring random weapon spawns. Movement based AA's like jetpack would cost more to use, whilst things like camo are completely context sensitive when it comes to how much energy it takes. The spawn timer on the energy packs would be just enough so that it would be hard to lock down the spawns completely.
PP would be way OP if you could spawn with it IMO. Spawn with noob combo? Yeah no.
PP would be way OP if you could spawn with it IMO. Spawn with noob combo? Yeah no.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
As far as jetpacks go, I was hoping here they would be more akin to thrusters used for extending jumps, as opposed to using to fly around entire maps.
The pack should help you make a bit longer/higher jump, not let you fly up to the top of the map.
The pack should help you make a bit longer/higher jump, not let you fly up to the top of the map.
So you really think they're going to give us 3 weapons for each role instead of 2? Explanation?
That's what I'm hoping too.
Ohh new stuff, nice
Poker Face
Member
Heard the word "mystery," which makes me very excited.
NullPointer
Member
Love what I'm hearing about the audio. I hope that DICE's work here is some kind of inspiration. The jump from Halo 2 to Halo 3 and then to Reach was very noticeable and appreciated. Gives all the gunplay more oomph which is always a good thing.
Proelite
Member
So you have new redundant weapons to unlock every week.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Today's been a good day, i managed to get Myyke to allow me to talk to his girlfriend, 'twas 'fun'.
Phew... Sigh of relief from me. Not much of a comparison as I thought. Figured he was going to say that they were trying to keep it faithful to H3 in some ways. He didn't compare the two games at all. It was just a few words on what they've been doing and how this game relates to the series in general.
The Librarian
Banned
The Halo 3-Halo 4 video was good but I found the comparison video between Bungie and 343 the more interesting of the two.
The Antitype
Banned
Doubtful.
I'd say it's going to be something like:
Primary:
BR
DMR
Carbine
Secondary:
Pistol
New Pistol
AR
PR
Basically, choose your mid-range weapon, choose your short-range weapon.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Metroid's back (unless he disappeared again) so you, him, and I could roll some ME3 MP.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Myyke doesn't want me anywhere near his girlfriend, but this is progress.
Soon I will be the new Myyke!
With good reason!
Zeouterlimits
Member
Happy to hear it
.See I kind of thought Health Pack "kiosks" would be serve this sort of function when I first heard they were back in Reach. You know, keep control of certain areas of the map to consistently refill your health at the kiosks sort of like you would hold down advantageous routes/paths/etc.. of a map or power weapon spawns. Health packs don't seem to do this at all.. in fact most people can't tell you where any of them are on many of the maps anyways. People are used to running and gunning for the enemy, dying, respawing, repeating.
I also thought that we'd be able to place the ammo cache's you see in FF around on custom maps that would refill all UNSC weapons that could serve the same purpose. This idea was never realized anyways, so it doesn't matter.
With your idea (which I do like btw) this could serve a similar purpose. With some sort of recharge station you had to stand by for 2-3 seconds to recharge completely (or deal with a slooooow recharge otherwise), it could help more teamwork oriented teams gain an advantage over a lesser coordinated opponent. Of course, like you guys mentioned, "orbs" of some kind placed around the map like power weapons or OS/Camo could also be a great option. Certainly we won't see the unlimited use of these AA's from the start.
There is one thing that might come into play on these though... they mentioned modifications which will likely tie to weapons, they could affect AA's as well. i.e. "X-ray vision Pro - lasts 3 seconds longer, recharges 3 seconds faster" etc... which could affect the above mentioned possibilities.
Anyone think there will be a "prestige" type mode or do you think after a couple weeks/months everyone will have all the guns, AA's, gameplay affecting armor, etc?
Nothing big, mostly Frank talks about the future, that this Halo has it's own distinctions, a more serious tone to the story (but not too serious) and how much of the transition was from Bungie to 343.
Hypertrooper
Member
kind of funny that a site posts Frankie's or David's clarification as exclusive information.
Thanks. Can't wait to watch.
Liverpool Supremacy
ElzarTheBam
Member
Yeah, I saw it :lol